Abortions Rights Win (Again)

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So, let me get this straight, a person can be a "protected person in Indiana" but not a "protected person in Ohio."

As I said originally, this didn't end well with slavery and it won't end well with abortion.

Americans are Americans. Everywhere. If she is "with child" in Indiana, she is "with child" in Ohio.

I can't just lose my rights as an American by crossing state lines.
 
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hog88 said:
The state has no duty to protect.
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Nice, non answer. I can see you're not up to stepping up.

You know the fetus is alive and you know it's human and you know it's in America, but you lack the balls to acknowledge this.

If all those are true, the state must protect the human like any other innocent human per the Federal government in the 14th Amendment. They cannot just kill humans.
 
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Republicans should get back to their days of true conservatism, Barry Goldwater:

• “A woman has a right to an abortion. That’s a decision that’s up to the pregnant woman, not up to the pope or some do-gooders or the Religious Right.”

• “Abortion is not something the Republican Party should call for the abolition of, by legal means or by any other means.”

• “There is no way in the world that abortion is going to be abolished. It has been going on ever since man and woman lived together on this earth.”

• “Men (who are anti-abortion) should keep their asses out of doctor’s offices. That’s something between the pregnant woman and her doctor.”
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The Observer: The ghost of Barry Goldwater on abortion: ‘A decision that’s up to the pregnant woman’

It’s beginning to look like the U.S. Supreme Court is poised to overturn the nearly 50-years ago landmark abortion-rights decision Roe v. Wade. This past Monday, May 2, Politico reported that Sup…
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Nice, non answer. I can see you're not up to stepping up.

You know the fetus is alive and you know it's human and you know it's in America, but you lack the balls to acknowledge this.

If all those are true, the state must protect the human like any other innocent human per the Federal government in the 14th Amendment. They cannot just kill humans.
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I'm 100% opposed to abortion, how much clearer do I have to be? I'm also 100% opposed to federal involvement into state issues.

Your understanding of the 14th amendment and the constitution is kindergartenish at best.
 
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The political ad that no doubt was influential in defeating the crazy GOP candidate for governor in Kentucky.

It's more evidence of how extreme Republicans are a danger to women.

 
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hog88 said:
I'm 100% opposed to abortion, how much clearer do I have to be? I'm also 100% opposed to federal involvement into state issues.

Your understanding of the 14th amendment and the constitution is kindergartenish at best.
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You're not 100% opposed to it because I lay out a PERFECTLY good argument with the 14th.

Just answer the damn questions:

Is the fetus alive?
Is the fetus human?
Do humans in America have Federal protection from one state making laws that deprive them of "life, liberty, and property" per the 14th?

Bonus questions: if a parent "identifies" their child as a different sex than biology, should they be able to travel to another state to modify the anatomy of that child?

Should the Federal government decide what sex a person can identify as?
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
You're not 100% opposed to it because I lay out a PERFECTLY good argument with the 14th.

Just answer the damn questions:

Is the fetus alive?
Is the fetus human?
Do humans in America have Federal protection from one state making laws that deprive them of "life, liberty, and property" per the 14th?

Bonus questions: if a parent "identifies" their child as a different sex than biology, should they be able to travel to another state to modify the anatomy of that child?

Should the Federal government decide what sex a person can identify as?
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Yes
Yes
The state isn't making laws to deprive them of life liberty or property. The 14th amendment prohibits the states from depriving not individuals.
Again, state issue.
No other than when it pertains to federal business.
 
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hog88 said:
I'm 100% opposed to abortion, how much clearer do I have to be? I'm also 100% opposed to federal involvement into state issues.

Your understanding of the 14th amendment and the constitution is kindergartenish at best.
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Let's say a woman is 38 weeks and 6 days pregnant with a perfectly healthy baby and there are zero issues with her birth the next day. Are you still against a federal ban on that?
 
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865er said:
Let's say a woman is 38 weeks and 6 days pregnant with a perfectly healthy baby and there are zero issues with her birth the next day. Are you still against a federal ban on that?
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Federal yes. State no.
 
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hog88 said:
Yes
Yes
The state isn't making laws to deprive them of life liberty or property. The 14th amendment prohibits the states from depriving not individuals.
Again, state issue.
No other than when it pertains to federal business.
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So a HUMAN in AMERICA doesn't deserve equal protection against being killed in every state because of their age?

You actually believe the Constitution doesn't give the Federal government the right to protect HUMANS of all ages from being killed by another state?
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
So a HUMAN in AMERICA doesn't deserve equal protection against being killed in every state because of their age?

You actually believe the Constitution doesn't give the Federal government the right to protect HUMANS of all ages from being killed by another state?
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They absolutely deserve equal protection FROM THE STATE.
Yes I believe the constitution gives the federal government the POWER to protect humans from being killed BY THE STATE.
 
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hog88 said:
Yes
Yes
The state isn't making laws to deprive them of life liberty or property. The 14th amendment prohibits the states from depriving not individuals.
Again, state issue.
No other than when it pertains to federal business.
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The bonus questions: you apparently believe a child could be male in one state but female in another state in America?

Let's see: I'm Jack in TN, but Jill in GA, and the Federal government says I'm...... well, they said I should present a state ID, so I'll give them both my TN State ID and my GA State ID. 🤷‍♂️
 
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hog88 said:
They absolutely deserve equal protection FROM THE STATE.
Yes I believe the constitution gives the federal government the POWER to protect humans from being killed BY THE STATE.
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If the state makes a law that killing children is legal, where is the Federal government offering protection under the 14th for that child?

The Federal government cannot sit on the sidelines and allow death and mutilation of children in some states while not in another. Humans in America have basic protections in ALL STATES per the 14th.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
The bonus questions: you apparently believe a child could be male in one state but female in another state in America?

Let's see: I'm Jack in TN, but Jill in GA, and the Federal government says I'm...... well, they said I should present a state ID, so I'll give them both my TN State ID and my GA State ID. 🤷‍♂️
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No, I do not believe a child can be male in one state and female in another state. I believe states have the power to make their own decisions in regards to recognizing gender.
 
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