All your children are belong to us

[clarksvol00]

Do you know these things with certainty?

Don't need facts. If it sounds good say it.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Furious School Parents Will Not Be Silenced - Doesn't AG Garland Have Better Things To Do? | ZeroHedge

Merrick Garland has not said a single word about keeping parents from peacefully protesting against public school policies they don't like. Garland has been very clear that his objective is to crackdown on the parents who have been threatening teachers and school administrators with acts of violence.

Far right media is aggressively attempting to portray Merrick Garland's directive as an effort to silence free speech, or as being advocacy for either COVID mandates or for Critical Race Theory. That is a lie. Garland's effort is to keep parents who struggle to control their anger, from making violent threats. Nothing more, nothing less.

The far right is guilty of using what is called a "straw man fallacy" in their collective rebuttal of Garland's memo.

Straw Man Fallacy : while attempting to refute another person's argument, only a weak or distorted version of said argument is addressed. It is a misrepresentation of an opponent's position, in order to tout one's own argument as being superior. It is a debating tactic, frequently employed to change the subject away from an inconvenient matter (such as parents threatening teachers with violence), towards a position which is easier to defend (such as the protection of 1st Amendment rights.)

 

[AshG]

Merrick Garland has not said a single word about keeping parents from peacefully protesting against public school policies they don't like. Garland has been very clear that his objective is to crackdown on the parents who have been threatening teachers and school administrators with acts of violence.

Far right media is aggressively attempting to portray Merrick Garland's directive as an effort to silence free speech, or as being advocacy for either COVID mandates or for Critical Race Theory. That is a lie. Garland's effort is to keep parents who struggle to control their anger, from making violent threats. Nothing more, nothing less.

The far right is guilty of using what is called a "straw man fallacy" in their collective rebuttal of Garland's memo.

Straw Man Fallacy : while attempting to refute another person's argument, only a weak or distorted version of said argument is addressed. It is a misrepresentation of an opponent's position, in order to tout one's own argument as being superior. It is a debating tactic, frequently employed to change the subject away from an inconvenient matter (such as parents threatening teachers with violence), towards a position which is easier to defend (such as the protection of 1st Amendment rights.)

Never let the truth get in the way of a good partisan hate fest. This won't end well.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Video: Tucker Carlson Warns “It Is Now Criminal To Disagree With Your Kids’ School”

Very interesting article.

Nobody has said that it is a crime to simply disagree with school policies, or to peacefully protest against those policies. Merrick Garland's concerns have strictly been directed towards parents, who during the course of a protest become frustrated and lose their tempers, and then resort to making violent threats in order to achieve their desired resolution.

Tucker Carlson is also using the "straw man fallacy" here, that I mentioned above,

 

[BowlBrother85]

The locals need to hold the local police accountable if they try to implement these nazi tactics

No overreach is ever complete without a Hitler or Nazi comparison. Nice.

 

[BowlBrother85]

The Devolution of the DOJ

Merrick Garland's focus on school board meetings over violent crime diminishes the department

Merrick Garland's Department of Justice has discovered a new group that poses a pressing threat to the country's safety and well being.

Their potential crimes are heinous: Objecting to the propagation in our schools of critical race theory and anti-white racism.

How deep does this criminal behavior go? We can't say. Announcing a "partnership among federal, state, local, tribal, and territorial law enforcement to address threats against school administrators, board members, teachers, and staff," Garland offers no statistical evidence about the rising threat of infuriated parents. He makes no mention of any arrests. He doesn't say whether a police department or state anywhere has asked for the federal government's assistance in stopping "threats against public servants."

The Devolution of the DOJ - Washington Free Beacon

... but Donald Trump's effort to use the DOJ (I'm specifically referring to the Jeffrey Clark / Jeffrey Rosen matter,) to overturn the outcome of the 2020 Presidential Election, has been given the Republican Party stamp of approval.

 

[Caculator]

There are local, City, and State laws that cover any concerns the fragile AG may experience.

 

[BowlBrother85]

There are local, City, and State laws that cover any concerns the fragile AG may experience.

Yes, there are ...

... This has become an issue, because those laws are not currently being enforced.

 

[Weezy]

Nobody has said that it is a crime to simply disagree with school policies, or to peacefully protest against those policies. Merrick Garland's concerns have strictly been directed towards parents, who during the course of a protest become frustrated and lose their tempers, and then resort to making violent threats in order to achieve their desired resolution.

Tucker Carlson is also using the "straw man fallacy" here, that I mentioned above,

It was a local school system that recently got all the headlines. Was there evidence of threats outside a board member saying they happened? It shouldn't be a difficult thing to prove.

 

[BowlBrother85]

It was a local school system that recently got all the headlines. Was there evidence of threats outside a board member saying they happened? It shouldn't be a difficult thing to prove.

I'm aware that tensions boiled over at a recent Knox County School Board meeting during a debate concerning mask mandates, which was held at Farragut High School, but I haven't seen the video of it.

 

[DynaLo]

This is a dishonest narrative.

Merrick Garland has not said that there is anything wrong with peaceful protests of public school policies. Garland has not objected to parents voicing their displeasure at school board meetings, as long as they do it without threatening anyone with violence.

Since the left has consistently and adamantly proclaimed from the rooftops that “words are violence” one might see where the parents concerns over merely voicing displeasure without threats finds its basis.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Since the left has consistently and adamantly proclaimed from the rooftops that “words are violence” one might see where the parents concerns over merely voicing displeasure without threats finds its basis.

Not based on anything that United States Attorney General, Merrick Garland has said... and that is the point. The far right media, including Tucker Carlson, is misrepresenting the substance of Garland's memo. It wasn't an attack on free speech, and it didn't advocate for mask mandates, or Critical Race Theory either, The stated purpose of the memo was simply to address threats of violence which have recently been made against teachers and public school administration officials.,

Garland should not be lumped into the same category as idiots who say stupid things such as "words are violence."

 

[Caculator]

Yes, there are ...

... This has become an issue, because those laws are not currently being enforced.

You make sh!t up like it's out of whole cloth

 

[BowlBrother85]

You make sh!t up like it's out of whole cloth

Says the OP of this thread, who posted a link to an article with the completely dishonest headline ...

"U.S. Attorney General Instructs FBI to Begin Investigating Parents Who Challenge School Board Policy"

... and then ran with the lie, as if we couldn't read the Garland memo for ourselves, and see that Garland is just trying to put a stop to angry parents threatening school teachers and administrators with acts of violence. Garland has NOT instructed the FBI to investigate parents just for challenging school board policy.

 

[DynaLo]

Not based on anything that United States Attorney General, Merrick Garland has said... and that is the point. The far right media, including Tucker Carlson, is misrepresenting the substance of Garland's memo. It wasn't an attack on free speech, and it didn't advocate for mask mandates, or Critical Race Theory either, The stated purpose of the memo was simply to address threats of violence which have recently been made against teachers and public school administration officials.,

Garland should not be lumped into the same category as idiots who say stupid things such as "words are violence."

The words are violence idiots are the side he works for so he’s going to have to prove he deserves that category separation by actions and right now that isn’t looking to great for him, all things considered.

 

[BowlBrother85]

The words are violence idiots are the side he works for so he’s going to have to prove he deserves that category separation by actions and right now that isn’t looking to great for him, all things considered.

No, he doesn't. The Attorney General is supposed to be independent of political influence, and there is no indication that Garland isn't. This whole thread is based on a lie. Garland did not attack free speech with his memo, nor did he advocate for vaccine or mask mandates in public schools, or for the inclusion of Critical Race Theory in the public school curriculum. He simply wants to stop threats of violence from being made against educators. There is nothing political in nature about that..

 

[utvolpj]

Says the OP of this thread, who posted a link to an article with the completely dishonest headline ...

"U.S. Attorney General Instructs FBI to Begin Investigating Parents Who Challenge School Board Policy"

... and then ran with the lie, as if we couldn't read the Garland memo for ourselves, and see that Garland is just trying to put a stop to angry parents threatening school teachers and administrators with acts of violence. Garland has NOT instructed the FBI to investigate parents just for challenging school board policy.

If I can't trust theconservativetreehouse then I have no idea what to do

 

[Weezy]

Not based on anything that United States Attorney General, Merrick Garland has said... and that is the point. The far right media, including Tucker Carlson, is misrepresenting the substance of Garland's memo. It wasn't an attack on free speech, and it didn't advocate for mask mandates, or Critical Race Theory either, The stated purpose of the memo was simply to address threats of violence which have recently been made against teachers and public school administration officials.,

Garland should not be lumped into the same category as idiots who say stupid things such as "words are violence."

Evidence or did Garland create an issue to serve as means to an end?

 

[DynaLo]

No, he doesn't. The Attorney General is supposed to be independent of political influence, and there is no indication that Garland isn't. This whole thread is based on a lie. Garland did not attack free speech with his memo, nor did he advocate for vaccine or mask mandates in public schools, or for the inclusion of Critical Race Theory in the public school curriculum. He simply wants to stop threats of violence from being made against educators. There is nothing political in nature about that..

So questioning Garland’s level of political influence isn’t allowed from the right but screeching endlessly that Barr was a Trump minion was just fine from the left. Roger that.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Evidence or did Garland create an issue to serve as means to an end?

Anti-Maskers Are Assaulting Teachers and School Leaders. What Can Be Done?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Yes, there are ...

... This has become an issue, because those laws are not currently being enforced.

You mean a parent has assaulted or battered a school official and gotten away with it? Or, is it most likely, that a parent may have used strong language or tone at one of these school board meetings and now the Karens, Keishas, and Kennys are scrambling for their safe spaces?

 

[DynaLo]

Anti-Maskers Are Assaulting Teachers and School Leaders. What Can Be Done?

Shortly after that incident got reported, further details came out that the parent and principal were just in a very loud verbal argument and the teacher jumped into the middle of it and the situation escalated from there.

That parent has been charged with Battery by the local PD so this justifies Garland’s involvement how?

 

[BowlBrother85]

Shortly after that incident got reported, further details came out that the parent and principal were just in a very loud verbal argument and the teacher jumped into the middle of it and the situation escalated from there.

That parent has been charged with Battery by the local PD so this justifies Garland’s involvement how?

There are literally dozens of these to choose from ....

'The mood is grim': Death threats and violence mark another pandemic school year

 

[DynaLo]

Ok, parents are totally pissed off. It should remain a State and local matter and those legal jurisdictions should handle it. The Feds should not be involved in these issues in any way, shape or form unless invited in by state/local law enforcement on specific cases.
So for School Board members that get paid, where does that funding come from? Is it from state and local taxes paid by parents and other citizens? Last time I checked we’ve gone to actual physical war twice in this country over taxation without proper representation.
Do the parents feel those board members are putting their personal and political ideology above the wishes of those who are funding them? It’s fairly easy for both paid and volunteer board members to resign their seats but it’s a wee bit more difficult for parents to get them removed.

The saying goes,”If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.”

Federal involvement is purely an intimidation tactic being used to silence people. Let the applicable legal jurisdictions handle it.

 

[LouderVol]

Merrick Garland has not said a single word about keeping parents from peacefully protesting against public school policies they don't like. Garland has been very clear that his objective is to crackdown on the parents who have been threatening teachers and school administrators with acts of violence.

Far right media is aggressively attempting to portray Merrick Garland's directive as an effort to silence free speech, or as being advocacy for either COVID mandates or for Critical Race Theory. That is a lie. Garland's effort is to keep parents who struggle to control their anger, from making violent threats. Nothing more, nothing less.

The far right is guilty of using what is called a "straw man fallacy" in their collective rebuttal of Garland's memo.

Straw Man Fallacy : while attempting to refute another person's argument, only a weak or distorted version of said argument is addressed. It is a misrepresentation of an opponent's position, in order to tout one's own argument as being superior. It is a debating tactic, frequently employed to change the subject away from an inconvenient matter (such as parents threatening teachers with violence), towards a position which is easier to defend (such as the protection of 1st Amendment rights.)

The FBI is needed for local threats? Threats that havent been acted on? Threats that have happened before, will continue to happen.

This is part of the blowback from all the Covid changes. You cant upset society and expect people not to change, for there not to be large negatives. This is the government getting heavy handed to try and force people back into normal.

No need for the FBI or AG to deal with a non terroristic issue. Seriously domestic terrorism for threats? What's next road ragers getting picked up by black SUVs?

Threats are way way way the list of issues that rise to terrorism.