Any Vols Coming out to California for the Cal Game?

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Yeah, Lefty's is a neat little pub. VIA, I stayed at a place a couple of years ago that wasn't overly expensive. I think the name is Hotel Union Square. It was a no frills place, but it is centrally located and in a safe enough area.
 
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I am going to compile an extensive list of safe places to stay that are also reasonably priced. I think this will help your Nation in its planning.

To those of you unwilling to wait, just remember, there is no place worse than Berkeley. While they are not all bad, most hate football! They will not even let us build our athletic center on State PROPERTY! They are CRAZY!

Michael Silver rocks! Only mainstream media guy who is on our side. Hell, he better be, being a Cal grad and all...
 
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CalBears said:
Say, would you guys be willing to help with our little tree sit problem when you come out? What we could use is some good old-fashioned action, something noticeably lacking in our student base. I am sure the tree sitters would never have attempted such a stunt against the mighty fan base of the Vols! What would you guys do to a bunch of acid crazed hippies if they tried to hijack Neyland?
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Whip their ass.
 
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I REALLY wish we could do that out here. Our fan base is large, but many are either pacifists or too “proper” to whip some ass!

There is a growing number of Patriots like myself though that are willing to explore extreme measures to rid ourselves of this menace!
 
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Ha ha ha...if hippies ever tried to take over Neyland there would be another Civil War. We had a fire on campus earlier this year and the main point they made was that Neyland was ok even though the engineering building had some extensive damage. I seriously think that if anything happened to our baby, grown men would cry in the streets of Knoxville and beyond.
 
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WHAT a nice place to live! Knoxville, Tennessee. Out here in Berkeley football is discriminated against. The so called "progressive liberals" boast all day about all the good they are doing in the world. In the end all they do is condition athletes into thinking they are sub par human beings. I know, very sad.

Such is life in Berkeley. The more I hang out in here, the more I am pissed I was born in California! I love California, however, I wish we could export all of these whack jobs to Siberia and import some of you nice folks, (only put you in a Blue & Gold uniform!) I know, such comments are sacrilegious, but imagine the possibilities!

TIME FOR THE HIPPIES TO GO! They need to leave our gorgeous state, for they are nothing more than blood sucking leaches! I hear Tennessee is beautiful and has a MUCH more reasonable housing market. I think I will suggest they move to Knoxville!

JUST kidding, I would not wish such a fate on my WORST enemy. I would not even wish it on Stanford or USC!
 
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Anything that involves hippies can't be good.

Seriously I feel for your team. You all have a good coach that will leave because of the lack of importance shown towards a program he's working his ass off to progress.

I hope we beat Cal by 50 but I'd never wish hippie infestations and the inability to progress a football program on any fan of a team.
 
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i think my calbears friend is going a bit over the top. tedford has the full support of the administration and the fanbase to the tune of 2.5 mil a year (base salary, if he completes his contract that goes to $3 mil). The $125 mil training facility will get built eventually and is almost fully funded. The hippies actually aren't the ones stopping it from being built, they have no legal basis and are merle a pain in the ass. It's the city of berkeley with the ruse of "seismic safety" merle trying to extract more money from the university. When this extortion is done with we will break ground sooner rather than later. I think you will find those berkeley residents that have no university affiliation are anti Cal (not neccesarily anti football) and those who are students or alumni love Cal football and tedford. Many berkeley residents feel the university is trying to take over the city and is expanding too fast. It's kind of silly they don't realize the only reason why berkeley is a nice place to live is because of the university. The university was there first too.

So the reason why many Cal fans do not want anyone to spend money in berkeley is the way the city is consistantly against football and the university in particular. And we will boycott the city until they drop their lawsuit. Berkeley is a fine place to stay if you only have a couple of days. Many fine foods and some decent bars. The hotel durant is particurally nice and full of Cal tradition and right next to the stadium. You wont find a hotel room in SF under $140 that isn't much of a hole unfortunetly. If I was only staying for the weekend i would stay in berkeley, if I was staying for longer than 2 or 3 days I would stay in SF.

edit: and if tedford leaves it will be to go to the NFL or something, not because he doesn't have support. he's already one of the top 10 highest paid coaches in college football (with his new contract he might be top 5), which isn't bad for a guy who has never gotten to a bcs game. no?
 
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hatvol96 said:
Yeah, Lefty's is a neat little pub. VIA, I stayed at a place a couple of years ago that wasn't overly expensive. I think the name is Hotel Union Square. It was a no frills place, but it is centrally located and in a safe enough area.
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there are a lot of neat pubs in SF. expect to pay twice knoxville prices no matter where you go. I lived in SF for 4 years and drank a bit, so let me know where you guys are staying and I'll give you some tips of reasonable bars to go to.
 
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Another good thing Berkeley has going for it is good coffee: Peets Coffee. If you like real coffee, then you have to stop by Peets while you're visiting -- way better IMO than *$. I actually like Berkeley, hippies aside.
 
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Droski,

Allow me to begin by saying thank you. Your defense of the program in here has been laudable given the environment. However, I have to say, why would you encourage our friends from the south to openly defy the blockade of Berkeley? Such actions are entirely counterproductive to the long-term strategy of defeating the cities open insurgency against the University. Not to mention somewhat seditious. Staying even a day in Berkeley (however nice CERTAIN areas may be) is entirely unacceptable. Please do not help the special land interests and the tyrannical city government, help your team and school.

San Francisco may be expensive, but I am exploring alternative sites in Oakland and San Leandro that may be both suitable and affordable for our friends from Tennessee. Local access to BART is key to any site deemed acceptable.

Now, you are right, I left several parts of the fiasco in Berkeley out when talking with our friends. I did this because I did not think they would wish to become embroiled in the other details of the systematic campaign to dominate the University. You now leave me no choice but to explain them, so I will.

The City of Berkeley has sued the University over concerns of seismic safety. Yes the Hayward fault is near, but the area where the athletic center is to be constructed has no active fault. In a perfect world this would make the argument by the despotic city regime irrelevant. Sadly, as they are greatly influenced by the Panoramic Hill Association (a wealthy neighborhood association) they cannot stop their unrelenting and malicious attacks, not that they really want to.

Now who is this Panoramic Hill Association you ask? Simple, they are adherents to the extreme nimbyism movement. They believe nothing should be built near their houses that could potentially harm their property values. They have traditionally opposed any development by the University regardless of merit. Now they have the NERVE to say that the University cannot build an athletic center on its own property. Property I might add that was set aside by the US Congress way back in the 1800’s to establish a University of higher education in California.

The radicals though seem to think that Berkeley is a retirement community for them and not the hub of public academia in the world. To those unaware, Cal has been the number 1 public University for many, many years. But see the City and rich land interests do not care about this, they would rather continue in their campaign of eviction and false lie mongering.

So, I will humbly implore the Orange Nation again, DO NOT STAY IN BERKELEY! DO NOT SPEND ANY MONEY IN BERKELEY! Supporting this city could have severe consequences for the entire world of college football. Movements could sprout up all over the country eerily similar to the mess playing out in Berkeley. These radical movements will use the situation in Berkeley as a template to attempt their domination elsewhere. Sure, to some it may sound a bit extreme, but you must look at the bigger picture.

Droski, we should be working together to see that Berkeley is boycotted into submission, not bickering with one another. Please help the cause. If we fail to do this, they will subjugate us forever! Oh not to mention, they will move Cal football to Oakland. Do you really want that?

I guess it really comes down to whether or not you support rich land interests and tyranny, or whether you support America and freedom of education. I really hope it is the latter. :crossfingers:
 
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Cal football will never be moved to oakland. I am boycotting berkeley, but I doubt the half a dozen tenn fans on this site who will make the trip will make enough difference for these people here to have to mess with their plans.
 
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I would not be so sure Droski, read this...

East Bay Express: Give Cal Plan the Ax
Retrofitting Memorial Stadium for a quake will be a futile waste of countless millions.​

By Chris Thompson

Take a half-dozen granola-and-sandals activists, give them surnames like "Runningwolf" and "Butterfly," stick 'em in a few trees, and sic the University of California on them, and you've got the makings of a perfect Berkeley story. And so the national press has waggled after the latest town-gown controversy, in which university officials want to build a $120 million athletic training center to boost their newly bemuscled football program, and crunchy eco-acolytes (and even a curmudgeonly ex-mayor or two) have put their bodies on the line to stop them. Last month, the city successfully snagged an interim injunction against proceeding with the construction, which would have done away with a smallish oak grove and apparently struck at the heart of a key part of what made this town the "third most sustainable city," according to the eco-wonks at SustainLane.com. It also would have highlighted UC's imperial arrogance, made dozens of squirrels homeless, contributed to global warming via the sweat of middle linebackers; you know the drill. But as usual, the most important element of the story — the true folly of the university's plan — went unnoticed.

The issue isn't really the training center, which could be located in any number of different areas in or around campus. It's the California Memorial Stadium itself, which is the heart of the sports complex university officials want to reinvigorate. The stadium is an 84-year-old seismic deathtrap, built right on top of the Hayward fault, and the western half of it is slowly moving north, ripping at the foundations. Officials need to build the training center so they can move their jocks and coaches out of the stadium before a massive quake hits and buries them beneath a pile of rubble that used to be bleacher seats. Fine and good; since they work there five days a week, getting them out of the complex would surely save their lives. But then Cal administrators want to do something truly stupid: spend a fortune retrofitting the stadium itself.

No one truly knows just how much that would cost. UC Berkeley spokeswoman Marie Felde claims that Cal's engineers haven't even done the math yet. "They're not that far into the design process," she said. "Nobody wants to guess." But according to Craig Comartin, a structural engineer who has studied the schematics for UC Berkeley, the project would probably cost in the order of "tens of millions." For Cisco de Vries, a spokesman for Mayor Tom Bates, the university's very refusal to finish designing the retrofit and related projects is exactly the sort of irresponsible and arrogant planning that prompted the lawsuit in the first place. "Until there's some understanding of what it will take for the stadium to be safe, how can we be making decisions involving hundreds of millions of dollars?" he said. "That's a big part of our concern. The mayor says we want them to figure out at the very least what they're going to do with the stadium first."

But this much we know: The university's stated objective is to save the lives of the approximately 73,000 fans who could be caught attending the Big Game when the Big One hits. Take a closer look at those odds. Seismologists claim that in any given year there's a 1 percent chance of a major quake along the Hayward fault. Cal plays between six and eight games a year at the stadium, and once the training facilities and administrative offices are relocated, these games are the only times a significant number of lives will be at risk. In other words, the university is about to spend tens of millions of dollars to prepare for a disaster that has a one-in-25,000 chance of happening.

But where would we play football, you ask? Where would we watch Jeff Tedford's Bears crush Stanford's spirits for a generation? Funny you should ask. University planners don't just want to retrofit the stadium; they want to beef up its concession outlets and slap on some new lights, luxury boxes, and press offices. There just happens to be a facility that already boasts all of these amenities, and its owners — you and me — will be desperate for new tenants very shortly. It's called McAfee Coliseum, and now that the Oakland A's are planning to split for Fremont, Saturdays just happen to be free. With one lease agreement — and given Oakland's pathetic history of giving away the store, Cal officials can count on that agreement being very lucrative indeed — the university could have a massive football complex, complete with luxury boxes and garlic fries, for a fraction of what it would cost to modernize Memorial Stadium. And here's the bonus round: It's not sitting on a fault.

According to UC Berkeley's Felde, such a scheme won't fit in with the university's long-term plans. "When the campus looked at how to revitalize the southeast quadrant of campus, one of the main points was that the goal was to integrate the athletic experience with the student experience to a greater level than it is now," she says. And the fact that the stadium is across the street from the academic centers of campus is very important."

Well, it works for UCLA, whose stadium, the Rose Bowl, is located all the way in Pasadena. And moving Cal's games to the Coliseum wouldn't jeopardize Tedford's contract, which reportedly stipulates that the training center — and only the training center — be built. Felde claims the retrofit would be financed solely by alumni contributions and ticket sales, but make no mistake: Sooner or later you'll pay for this. When the Big One does strike, public money will be used to repair the stadium, and in the meantime, the redirection of ticket revenue would only increase the athletic department's multimillion-dollar budget deficit.

More than ten years ago, Oakland and Alameda County officials signed one of the worst sports deals in history to get the Raiders back, and it cost them millions and the departure of their baseball team. UC Berkeley planners have a chance to shake off the delusion that costly stadium construction projects are the only way to save their football program, and avoid the catastrophic mistakes made by their neighbor to the south. They just have to tell their alumni that beer tastes just as good in Mount Davis.
 
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Also, if only one Ten fan in here listens to my emphatically desperate pleas, I consider it a success...
 
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CalBears said:
Also, if only one Ten fan in here listens to my emphatically desperate pleas, I consider it a success...
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I feel your pain. However, the hippies are right about the deal Alameda County made with the Raiders. There may have never been a worse bargain entered into by a governmental body.
 
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Oh yeah and anyone who read the above article. Be not afraid, he is grossly exaggerating the situation as far as the possibility of a major earthquake happening. Brilliant seismologists have determined that there is something like a 1% chance of that happening. Just more false and malicious lies on the part of the opposition. They are very good at that.
 
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droski said:
Cal football will never be moved to oakland. I am boycotting berkeley, but I doubt the half a dozen tenn fans on this site who will make the trip will make enough difference for these people here to have to mess with their plans.
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If you think there are only half a dozen people coming from Tennessee, you're in for a big surprise.
 
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the east bay express is a utter rag that NO ONE reads. I think it is actually a free newspaper isn't it? Despite what this guy says the issue is the training center. the stadium refit hasn't even begun the permitting phase. this guy is out of it. there are blog writers more tuned in than this idiot.
 
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Yeah the East Bay is a free propaganda rag, which all of the opposition adores.

There are negotiations ongoing to build a new state of the art ballpark in Fremont, a VERY nice area not far from Oakland. It is to be called Cisco Field, will only seat 34,000, and will be the most technologically advanced ballpark in the league. Still, to say that they have already lost their team shows just how stupid Chris Thompson is!

Very happy to hear that many Tennesseeans are going to make the trip! Still compiling the list of good places to stay. Will be at least a few days before I release it… Sorry for the delay…
 
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I think you are going to be very disappointed because w/o your stud RB and one of your top WR the Bears are in trouble. I think UT takes the Penn St. game out on Cal and wins by 14 points.
 
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That is a bold prediction, my orange wearing friend. Later in the day when I have a few minutes to respond, I will. I hope to introduce you to some of the finest talent in the country, without compromising our game plan. 14 points though, that’s a pretty fair prediction, I guess. At least you are not saying it will be 35-0. Ugh, I hate that score! :cray:
 
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SMVTT said:
I think you are going to be very disappointed because w/o your stud RB and one of your top WR the Bears are in trouble. I think UT takes the Penn St. game out on Cal and wins by 14 points.
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what top WR are we missing?
 
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