AU-Freeze, will it happen?

[Jeff Clark]

If they would be upset that Dabo took that job instead of the Bama job, Bama fans are dumber than I thought.

I could see Dabo Swinney or Lane Kiffin go to Alabama while Dave Doeren or Dave Clawson go to Auburn.

 

[Jax_Vol]

If they would be upset that Dabo took that job instead of the Bama job, Bama fans are dumber than I thought.

Ohhh...they aren't a particularly sharp crew

 

[RDU VOL#14]

I could see Dabo Swinney or Lane Kiffin go to Alabama while Dave Doeren or Dave Clawson go to Auburn.

I don’t think Dabo is a good fit in Tuscaloosa. I think he’s too thin skinned. He has too good of a deal at Clemson. I could see Lane there if he had Saban’s blessing.

I honestly think Auburn basically just fired Dave Doeren, Dave Clawson and Mark Stoops. They need some juice, some excitement to bring down there. I think Kiffin or Freeze would do that. I also think that even though Matt Rhule isn’t the flashy hire I described, he has a proven track record in college of turning programs around.

 

[Jeff Clark]

I don’t think Dabo is a good fit in Tuscaloosa. I think he’s too thin skinned. He has too good of a deal at Clemson. I could see Lane there if he had Saban’s blessing.

I honestly think Auburn basically just fired Dave Doeren, Dave Clawson and Mark Stoops. They need some juice, some excitement to bring down there. I think Kiffin or Freeze would do that. I also think that even though Matt Rhule isn’t the flashy hire I described, he has a proven track record in college of turning programs around.

I wonder if Lance Leipold would leave Kansas to go to Auburn?

 

[Jax_Vol]

I don’t think Dabo is a good fit in Tuscaloosa. I think he’s too thin skinned. He has too good of a deal at Clemson. I could see Lane there if he had Saban’s blessing.

I honestly think Auburn basically just fired Dave Doeren, Dave Clawson and Mark Stoops. They need some juice, some excitement to bring down there. I think Kiffin or Freeze would do that. I also think that even though Matt Rhule isn’t the flashy hire I described, he has a proven track record in college of turning programs around.

I hope you are right. Haven't seen enough of Dabo to know. But, there is an underground coup ongoing...

Saban: Ex-Alabama players saying culture slipped ‘hurts my heart’ - al.com

 

[RDU VOL#14]

I wonder if Lance Leipold would leave Kansas to go to Auburn?

That would be a good hire

 

[Jax_Vol]

That would be a good hire

After this latest dust-up with Hard_Sin.....they won't hire anyone from the west.

For Auburn, Kansas is "The West".

Gonna be a southern son. I still think Deon is the most interesting pick from the field.

 

[WillisWG]

Dabo Swinney contract extension: Clemson coach joins $10 million club with new 10-year deal

The terms of Swinney's contract also specify a higher buyout for the coach should he leave for Alabama, his alma mater. If Swinney leaves the Tigers for the Crimson Tide, he will have to pay 1.5 times more than if he left for any other school.

 

[05_never_again]

I hope you are right. Haven't seen enough of Dabo to know. But, there is an underground coup ongoing...

Saban: Ex-Alabama players saying culture slipped ‘hurts my heart’ - al.com

Is the culture really slipping, or are former players just embarrassed that they've dropped a couple regular season games for only the second time in 12 years?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

LK isn't a good fit there.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

He won’t like it when Bruce Pearl starts winning.

When?

 

[Jax_Vol]

Is the culture really slipping, or are former players just embarrassed that they've dropped a couple regular season games for only the second time in 12 years?

Saban is past age 70 and currently has two horrific coordinators. They are only three plays away from having five losses.

Overall, I can see their point of view. The culture is slipping from the lofty standards of a decade ago.

 

[Jeff Clark]

Is the culture really slipping, or are former players just embarrassed that they've dropped a couple regular season games for only the second time in 12 years?

Sometimes the head coach just figures out it's time to retire

 

[Jax_Vol]

When?

Good point! Are the plains a large enough stage for Kiffy and Pearl together?

Bruce Pearl Gets In Amusing Zinger On "Dumbass" Lane Kiffin (deadspin.com)

 

[05_never_again]

Saban is past age 70 and currently has two horrific coordinators. They are only three plays away from having five losses.

Overall, I can see their point of view. The culture is slipping from the lofty standards of a decade ago.

Maybe, but, I mean, they don't know. They aren't around the program every day. It is easy to look at a team that isn't playing as well as expected and make these sweeping statements about the culture of the program.

They are 3 plays away from having 5 losses, but they're also just a couple plays away from being undefeated. If Gibbs catches the pass over the middle on their last drive against us, Reichard has a much more makeable FG. If they stop LSU's 2-point play, they win that game. I guarantee you if they won one or both of those games, nobody is talking about a "culture problem."

 

[Jax_Vol]

Maybe, but, I mean, they don't know. They aren't around the program every day. It is easy to look at a team that isn't playing as well as expected and make these sweeping statements about the culture of the program.

They are 3 plays away from having 5 losses, but they're also just a couple plays away from being undefeated. If Gibbs catches the pass over the middle on their last drive against us, Reichard has a much more makeable FG. If they stop LSU's 2-point play, they win that game. I guarantee you if they won one or both of those games, nobody is talking about a "culture problem."

Maybe?

The bammer people I work with are simply unhappy that they were even in five close games during one season.

They are accustom to having ten blowouts. A mighty spoiled group indeed.

Would not want to be the coach that follows Nicky.

 

[05_never_again]

Maybe?

The bammer people I work with are simply unhappy that they were even in five close games during one season.

They are accustom to having ten blowouts. A mighty spoiled group indeed.

Would not want to be the coach that follows Nicky.

Yes, maybe. Maybe there is a cultural problem, maybe there isn't.

Honestly, I think they are just shocked that they have played in this many close games and are looking for deep, philosophical, internal reasons instead of the most plausible one, which is they've simply dropped a couple of games to 2 other teams who are pretty good. I know they are used to Tennessee being bad, but it isn't like they dropped a game to a 6-6 Tennessee team. It's the #1 offense in the country and the best team we've had since probably 1998.

 

[Jax_Vol]

Yes, maybe. Maybe there is a cultural problem, maybe there isn't.

Honestly, I think they are just shocked that they have played in this many close games and are looking for deep, philosophical, internal reasons instead of the most plausible one, which is they've simply dropped a couple of games to 2 other teams who are pretty good. I know they are used to Tennessee being bad, but it isn't like they dropped a game to a 6-6 Tennessee team. It's the #1 offense in the country and the best team we've had since probably 1998.

Having Bryce back also had their expectations set for 15-0.

He is admittedly very good. Perhaps, the greatest QB ever at Alababa.

Hard to compare to Bart Starr. Kenny Stabler, and Joe Nameth.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

Yes, maybe. Maybe there is a cultural problem, maybe there isn't.

Honestly, I think they are just shocked that they have played in this many close games and are looking for deep, philosophical, internal reasons instead of the most plausible one, which is they've simply dropped a couple of games to 2 other teams who are pretty good. I know they are used to Tennessee being bad, but it isn't like they dropped a game to a 6-6 Tennessee team. It's the #1 offense in the country and the best team we've had since probably 1998.

Their problem is that they don’t have first round skill guys on the outside and in the slot. Their wideouts do not scare anyone, and because they have an amazing QB they have kept throwing the ball instead of pounding people like they used to . Gibbs is the best back in the SEC, maybe the country. 10 years ago he wins the Heisman. They should Control the clock and let your D do what it does, or used to do. This is a coaching issue and an identity issue IMO. This has been Saban’s worst coaching job and they very easily could be undefeated.

 

[05_never_again]

Their problem is that they don’t have first round skill guys on the outside and in the slot. Their wideouts do not scare anyone, and because they have an amazing QB they have kept throwing the ball instead of pounding people like they used to . Gibbs is the best back in the SEC, maybe the country. 10 years ago he wins the Heisman. They should Control the clock and let your D do what it does, or used to do. This is a coaching issue and an identity issue IMO. This has been Saban’s worst coaching job and they very easily could be undefeated.

Gibbs has had a really nice year, but it doesn't seem like they've gotten out of him what they need to. As you said they don't have any WRs that scare people, but they do have a QB that scares the daylights out of people and a super talented RB. Gibbs didn't even become their feature back until the Arkansas game.

 

[Jax_Vol]

Gibbs has had a really nice year, but it doesn't seem like they've gotten out of him what they need to. As you said they don't have any WRs that scare people, but they do have a QB that scares the daylights out of people and a super talented RB. Gibbs didn't even become their feature back until the Arkansas game.

Gibbs and Young are projected to be two of the top five picks in the draft. I would love for the Titans to have both for the future. Where was Gibbs during fourth quarter of Ole Miss game? They had # 2 out there at crunch time.

 

[05_never_again]

Gibbs and Young are projected to be two of the top five picks in the draft. I would love for the Titans to have both for the future. Where was Gibbs during fourth quarter of Ole Miss game? They had # 2 out there at crunch time.

Believe he got hurt.

 

[05_never_again]

There have also only been a couple of games this year (Texas and LSU) where Gibbs had consistent success in their passing game. Given his skillset and the fact they don't have scary WRs, he's gotta get more involved there.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

Gibbs has had a really nice year, but it doesn't seem like they've gotten out of him what they need to. As you said they don't have any WRs that scare people, but they do have a QB that scares the daylights out of people and a super talented RB. Gibbs didn't even become their feature back until the Arkansas game.

If you do player comps, I see Young as a 5’11” Mahomes type and Gibbs as a Kamara type player. Gibbs feet are ridiculous. I think we brought a safety blitz off the edge and he should’ve been dead to rights. He took the handoff and simultaneously juked our guy and took off. I haven’t seen anyone do that all year. He should’ve been the feature guy from day 1. That’s why I say that this has been a failed year in coaching for Saban. It’s BOB calling the plays, but it’s still CNS’s team.

 

[05_never_again]

If you do player comps, I see Young as a 5’11” Mahomes type and Gibbs as a Kamara type player. Gibbs feet are ridiculous. I think we brought a safety blitz off the edge and he should’ve been dead to rights. He took the handoff and simultaneously juked our guy and took off. I haven’t seen anyone do that all year. He should’ve been the feature guy from day 1. That’s why I say that this has been a failed year in coaching for Saban. It’s BOB calling the plays, but it’s still CNS’s team.

Bryce Young = Russell Wilson, IMO.