Auburn/Cam Newton situation (merged)

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#1,602
CountVolcula said:
Its not like they are getting a free education.

Those damn taxmasters
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The free education is not sufficient compensation for a player like Cam Newton.

The average future NFL player generates $600,000/year in revenue for their university. Clearly a scholarship is worth much less than the revenue generated so by the standard economic definition this is exploitation, and to a very high degree.

Especially when you consider the fact that the marginal cost of educating an athlete is basically the price of books. Sure a scholarship may be valued at $200,000 but the cost to the school is nowhere near that.
 
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JohnWardForever said:
WHO?:)-------Actually. I haven't met any other kind; lately.

Thing is, everyone can believe what they want. There is no absolute PROOF.
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Really?

"This entire saga has had NO DIRECT EFFECT ON TENNESSEE. Why is everyone up in arms?"

You have apparently never spent any time with an Auburn fan.
 
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nbakerld said:
The free education is not sufficient compensation for a player like Cam Newton.

The average future NFL player generates $600,000/year in revenue for their university. Clearly a scholarship is worth much less than the revenue generated so by the standard economic definition this is exploitation, and to a very high degree.

Especially when you consider the fact that the marginal cost of educating an athlete is basically the price of books. Sure a scholarship may be valued at $200,000 but the cost to the school is nowhere near that.
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Free food, free clothes, free tutors.

How many college football players play in the nfl? 1%, maybe?
 
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#1,609
PennVol said:
It is time for that source to speak up.
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I think the NCAA just XXX'd that "source".

Today, I am amazed at Vol fans. We didn't lose to AU, 'Burn just might beat our rival-SC on Saturday, they just beat our hated rival last Friday, AND they have a shot at bringing the SEC another National Title.

Go Auburn----Go Cam!! GO Auburn! Go Cam!
 
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roberthunter said:
I don't agree with this ruling, but that is not what it says.

The key here is that Auburn and Cam "didn't know" that Daddy asked Miss St for $.

The loophole this ruling really opens up is this situation:

Daddy can go to smaller school and say, pay me or my son is going to go to a powerhouse school for free.

If the smaller school tells him to go to hell and the kid actually does go to the powerhouse for free, and the powerhouse and the kid were clueless about the whole thing, then the kid can keep playing for the powerhouse.

Now that is messed up, but the loophole is not nearly as big as some of you are making it out to be. If Daddy receives benefits from boosters associated with the school the kid is playing for, the kid can't play and the school is in trouble.
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Bull Auburn knew good and dang well he was shopped by his father. Heck the ncaa knew it last January. You know the ncaa let Auburn know that this could be an issue. Even when this became main stream they still didn't sit him. That to me shows they didn't give two sh*ts what the ncaa was going to rule. If he had sat out the UGA and the AL game then they get the ruling from ncaa then yeah play him in the sec champ game. To think Auburn was in the dark during the whole time is stupid though.
 
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#1,612
BearCat204 said:
I will agree with you about his attitude turning my stomach, but to wish injury is just a little over the top.
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I know. Just my feelings at the moment. Hate watching CBS film him getting off the bus, and all those Auburn fans wearing fake orange (why do they do this??) cheering him on like he is some sort of hero when he shouldn't be allowed to experience any of it.
 
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JohnWardForever said:
I think the NCAA just XXX'd that "source".

Today, I am amazed at Vol fans. We didn't lose to AU, 'Burn just might beat our rival-SC on Saturday, they just beat our hated rival last Friday, AND they have a shot at bringing the SEC another National Title.

Go Auburn----Go Cam!! GO Auburn! Go Cam!
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Hmm...well played sir
 
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PennVol said:
Really?

"This entire saga has had NO DIRECT EFFECT ON TENNESSEE. Why is everyone up in arms?"

You have apparently never spent any time with an Auburn fan.
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Oh yes. And they are a helluva lot classier than bammers. I LIVE IN AU-BAMA TERRITORY. Mobile, Al.
 
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JohnWardForever said:
I think the NCAA just XXX'd that "source".

Today, I am amazed at Vol fans. We didn't lose to AU, 'Burn just might beat our rival-SC on Saturday, they just beat our hated rival last Friday, AND they have a shot at bringing the SEC another National Title.

Go Auburn----Go Cam!! GO Auburn! Go Cam!
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some of the most disgraceful words ever uttered on this board. These turds are worse than Bama. Worse.
 
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#1,618
Andre Smith sat out the '09 Sugar Bowl because a family member had contact with an agent without Smith's knowledge.

Can some tell me the difference between that situation and the one the NCAA just admitted re: Cam Newton?
 
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JohnWardForever said:
Oh yes. And they are a helluva lot classier than bammers. I LIVE IN AU-BAMA TERRITORY. Mobile, Al.
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In my experience they are not. Auburn is like Islam. It was founded for people without an identity who were promised a home. Auburn fans prostituted their identity.
 
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bamawriter said:
Andre Smith sat out the '09 Sugar Bowl because a family member had contact with an agent without Smith's knowledge.

Can some tell me the difference between that situation and the one the NCAA just admitted re: Cam Newton?
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none of this makes sense. None of it. This is cover up after cover up.
 
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PennVol said:
In my experience they are not. Auburn is like Islam. It was founded for people without an identity who were promised a home. Auburn fans prostituted their identity.
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I have no idea what this means, but it sounds a bit insensitive.
 
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AndyMizunogolfer said:
Bull Auburn knew good and dang well he was shopped by his father. Heck the ncaa knew it last January. You know the ncaa let Auburn know that this could be an issue. Even when this became main stream they still didn't sit him. That to me shows they didn't give two sh*ts what the ncaa was going to rule. If he had sat out the UGA and the AL game then they get the ruling from ncaa then yeah play him in the sec champ game. To think Auburn was in the dark during the whole time is stupid though.
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Notice I put "didn't know" in quotes. Of course Auburn knew something went down w/ Miss St and Cecil. But they didn't "know" for sure until the NCAA told them the day they ruled him ineligible.

Again, this whole thing isn't over. If the NCAA finds that Auburn boosters payed Cam, Auburn is going to be in huge trouble and this season will be wiped from the record books.

All I'm saying is that people aren't reading this ruling correctly. It does not allow a school's boosters to pay the parents of a player as long as the player doesn't know.
 
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