Bad Beats, Monster laydowns...Poker discussion

#326
#326
Just left a poker tourney that a certain NCAA football player was playing in. If he is projected to be a 2nd or 3rd rounder like his friend was saying, then I can easily see him blowing his earnings at the poker table.

I had already heard stories about his poker playing (or lack thereof), but I saw it first hand tonight.

It is really amazing the things I have seen and heard about some of these guys from bookies, poker tournaments and other various places that I frequent.
 
#327
#327
Rasputin_Vol said:
Just left a poker tourney that a certain NCAA football player was playing in. If he is projected to be a 2nd or 3rd rounder like his friend was saying, then I can easily see him blowing his earnings at the poker table.

I had already heard stories about his poker playing (or lack thereof), but I saw it first hand tonight.

It is really amazing the things I have seen and heard about some of these guys from bookies, poker tournaments and other various places that I frequent.
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I'm pretty sure you could have made that a little more vague...
 
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#328
lawgator1 said:
Came close to a nice bad beat jackpot last night. It was at Melbourne Greyhound track. Here's the action:

Game is $1/2 NLHE. Bad beat jackpot is $55k, aces full of jacks beaten to qualify. Table is a bunch of nits. Multiple limpers to me on the button and I look down to KK. Raise to $17, which is very high for this table.

BB, the nittiest of the nits, looks down at his cards and stiffens up. He calls. I know I need another K at this point.

Flop K-9-2. He bets $15, I call.

Turn another K. Woot woot. He bets $15, I call, secretly rooting for one of the two aces on the river....

Alas, it was not to be. River a blank.

(Post script: He led for $15 again, I made it $75, and he tells me he figures me for quad kings but can't bring himself to fold AA).
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As the winning hand, you'd have gotten, what, 1/4 of the $55k?
 
#330
#330
off to Vegas in three weeks. looking forward to playing some tables out there. would be nice to run into a few pros.
 
#331
#331
Rasputin_Vol said:
Just left a poker tourney that a certain NCAA football player was playing in. If he is projected to be a 2nd or 3rd rounder like his friend was saying, then I can easily see him blowing his earnings at the poker table.

I had already heard stories about his poker playing (or lack thereof), but I saw it first hand tonight.

It is really amazing the things I have seen and heard about some of these guys from bookies, poker tournaments and other various places that I frequent.
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how much did you win off of him
 
#332
#332
vol_in_il said:
how much did you win off of him
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Unfortunately, I didn't have the opportunity to get any money off of him.

Funny thing is that just tonight, I was out and about and saw the friend he brought along last night at the poker game. He told me that this particular player had lost about $750-800 between the tournament and the cash game...

I swear, they were only there about 3 hours, tops... in both events combined.
 
#333
#333
too bad, you couldn't have gotten it...

I'm playing in a tournament within my nieghborhood, to send someone to the World Series of Poker.

There's 18-20 guys and we play once a month, with a $120 dollar buy in. The payouts only $300, $200, $100, the rest is going towards the $10,000 buy in for the World Series and travel

I won the second tournamnet, so I'm guaranteed a spot at the Final table, so I've got a 1 in 9 shot of going to Vegas..

In the tournament last weekend, I was about the fifth one out, but we started a cash game, and I won $520 bucks....
 
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#334
vol_in_il said:
too bad, you couldn't have gotten it...

I'm playing in a tournament within my nieghborhood, to send someone to the World Series of Poker.

There's 18-20 guys and we play once a month, with a $120 dollar buy in. The payouts only $300, $200, $100, the rest is going towards the $10,000 buy in for the World Series and travel

I won the second tournamnet, so I'm guaranteed a spot at the Final table, so I've got a 1 in 9 shot of going to Vegas..

In the tournament last weekend, I was about the fifth one out, but we started a cash game, and I won $520 bucks....
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That makes too much sense.
 
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#336
crusse10 said:
As the winning hand, you'd have gotten, what, 1/4 of the $55k?
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Yup. Half to the loser of the hand, a quarter to the winner, the table splits the other quarter.

About 4 years ago I was playing $1/2 and guy to my right had quad 7's, guy across had a straight flush.

The jackpot was about $125k. I got $4200 for sitting there.
 
#337
#337
kev20 said:
off to Vegas in three weeks. looking forward to playing some tables out there. would be nice to run into a few pros.
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I was there last summer during the WSOP and met Hachem and got a pic with Gus Hansen. Both were very nice. Saw a ton of other pros playing one of the Omaha events. Devilfish, Negreanu, Brunson, etc. For the most part they are all very accessible.

Was there over Halloween and met Orel Herhiser at Aria. His fiance sat next to me at a $1/3 table and he was in the highlimit room, would come out and bs with us. Very nice guy. Saw some others in Bobby's room at the Bellagio. Farha. Some others.
 
#338
#338
Is anybody familiar with the sit and go tourneys at Sam's Town (Tunica)? I just went online and found out they had them going on all day everyday this month.

Also, just curious how a casino would make money on sit & go tournaments... or multi-table tournaments (I know they have the entry fee tacked on, but still)?
 
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#339
Rasputin_Vol said:
Is anybody familiar with the sit and go tourneys at Sam's Town (Tunica)? I just went online and found out they had them going on all day everyday this month.

Also, just curious how a casino would make money on sit & go tournaments... or multi-table tournaments (I know they have the entry fee tacked on, but still)?
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Never been there, but don't get too excited. Most poker rooms say they run sng's all day everyday, but that just means they'll spread it if enough players sign up. In my experience, its pretty tough to get 9 people to happen to show up at the same time for an sng. Most people play cash games now, or a regularly scheduled multi table.

As far as making money, its easy. A $120 sit and go with 9 players, the rake is the $20 part, so prize pool is $900, the rake is $180. They'll usually let you do a "dealer add on," like $5 or $10, and that pays for the dealer's time away from the cash games.

I loved sit and gos, but tough to find anywhere on any dependable basis.
 
#340
#340
lawgator1 said:
Never been there, but don't get too excited. Most poker rooms say they run sng's all day everyday, but that just means they'll spread it if enough players sign up. In my experience, its pretty tough to get 9 people to happen to show up at the same time for an sng. Most people play cash games now, or a regularly scheduled multi table.

As far as making money, its easy. A $120 sit and go with 9 players, the rake is the $20 part, so prize pool is $900, the rake is $180. They'll usually let you do a "dealer add on," like $5 or $10, and that pays for the dealer's time away from the cash games.

I loved sit and gos, but tough to find anywhere on any dependable basis.
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Yeah, I knew the dealer add ons and entry fees covered some of that. I just figured that the dealers would make more money at the cash games in tips that dealing in a tournament... even with the dealer add-ons and what not.
 
#341
#341
Rasputin_Vol said:
Yeah, I knew the dealer add ons and entry fees covered some of that. I just figured that the dealers would make more money at the cash games in tips that dealing in a tournament... even with the dealer add-ons and what not.
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Depends on a number of things. I know several dealers. Some claim to do better on a tournament if it moves along quickly.

Cash tips at a 1/2 or 2/5 game can be in the 30 an hour range. A typical 120 tournament lasts around an hour, so as long as at least 6 of the players do the add on, they can do a little better than cash.

What irks them is when the game gets called and players take a long time to cash out of whatever cash game they are sitting at to come play it. You see this all the time at place I play. Dealer and ready players sometimes sit there for upwards of 15-20 mins waiting on last players to cash out, buy in to tournament, etc.
 
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#342
lawgator1 said:
Depends on a number of things. I know several dealers. Some claim to do better on a tournament if it moves along quickly.

Cash tips at a 1/2 or 2/5 game can be in the 30 an hour range. A typical 120 tournament lasts around an hour, so as long as at least 6 of the players do the add on, they can do a little better than cash.

What irks them is when the game gets called and players take a long time to cash out of whatever cash game they are sitting at to come play it. You see this all the time at place I play. Dealer and ready players sometimes sit there for upwards of 15-20 mins waiting on last players to cash out, buy in to tournament, etc.
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The solution to that is simply make people buy-in if they leave, then if the tourny starts without them, just blind them out/fold them. But start the game and get it going.
 
#343
#343
Going during the WSOP is cool. Meeting all the players is nice. They have a 2 or 3 day expo around the time of the main event. Lots of the big names do appearances there and talk to fans and sign. Men the Master was super nice. Talked golden tee with Negreanu. Mike Sexton was telling me where he plays in Knoxville. Saw Jennifer Tilly in a thong at the pool the morning after she won the ladies title. Have pictures of tons of players. Seem to spot a new guy every time I look at the photos.
 
#344
#344
Played yesterday, two hands of note.

At $1/2, I'm in cutoff w/ Q-5 offsuit. Multilimped and I tag along. SB completes, BB checks.

Flop 10-5-5.

SB checks, BB bets $15. Folds to me, I call.

SB calls. Uh oh.

Turn an 8. BB bets $20, I call, SB calls.

River a Q. Yahtzee! BB bets $20, I pop it to $65, SB shoves for $175ish, BB folds and I of course call. SB turns over 5-10 for the flopped boat, I turn over the 5-Q for the rivered better boat.



Later on, I'm playing $2-5 with the $500 profit I have from the $1/2 game. Fifth or sixth hand I am on button with 77. Very aggressive player had lost a big pot and shoved for $65 utg, player to my right raises to $130. This reeks of AK or AA and if the flop is junk I can probably steal it and if I catch a 7, so much the better.

Flop 7-K-2, rainbow.

Woot woot! The player shoves all in and has me covered. Huh? I of course call because the only hand that beats me is KK and who on Earth would make that bet there with top set, right?

Ugh. He had KK for top set over my middle set and I whiffed out from there.

Rebought with my original stake and over the course of the next few hours got back ahead, cashed out +$800 for the day.
 
#345
#345
DrRosenRosen said:
Going during the WSOP is cool. Meeting all the players is nice. They have a 2 or 3 day expo around the time of the main event. Lots of the big names do appearances there and talk to fans and sign. Men the Master was super nice. Talked golden tee with Negreanu. Mike Sexton was telling me where he plays in Knoxville. Saw Jennifer Tilly in a thong at the pool the morning after she won the ladies title. Have pictures of tons of players. Seem to spot a new guy every time I look at the photos.
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forget the pics of the guy players, but throw up the pic of Tilly in the thong
 
#346
#346
DrRosenRosen said:
Going during the WSOP is cool. Meeting all the players is nice. They have a 2 or 3 day expo around the time of the main event. Lots of the big names do appearances there and talk to fans and sign. Men the Master was super nice. Talked golden tee with Negreanu. Mike Sexton was telling me where he plays in Knoxville. Saw Jennifer Tilly in a thong at the pool the morning after she won the ladies title. Have pictures of tons of players. Seem to spot a new guy every time I look at the photos.
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How does she look nowadays? She must be holding it together still if you went through the effort to take some photos.
 
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