Bad Beats, Monster laydowns...Poker discussion

#126
#126
holdemvol said:
An 8 year old or an accident victim don't have a choice as to their current state. I applaud your moral conviction but I have had drunks suck out on the river so many times that I no longer have a problem cleaning them out.
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Well, in those first few pots with him that I nailed him on, I basically waited to make the big bets until I either had the nuts or something so close that I deserved to lose if I overplayed it, i.e. I got A10 and the flop is A104 and then another A on the turn so I'm filled up -- I was pretty sure even the drunk guy wasn't going to run me down (absent making quad 4s on the river).

I know what you mean about drunks who make loose calls where the numbers don't match, i.e. calling me for 2x the pot with only the river to go and a weak flush draw and then hitting it. Very annoying. But this guy was so drunk he called off close to a hundred dollars with 9 high and no draw. Ever.

That's beyond shooting fish in a barrel. That's shooting fish that are already dead and sitting on the dock three feet from you.
 
#127
#127
UT IE 95 said:
I felt cursed. Everytime he sucked out I would just shake my head and re-buy thinking that wouldn't happen again. Then it did, again, and again.
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Hate nights like that. The worst are when you you get rivered on a 2 outer in the first all in you get beat on. That makes you think, "man, that was just a bad beat... can't happen again. I'm gonna re-buy..."

Then, about 30 minutes later, when you get put on tilt again, you're like, "one more time..."

I had one of those nights back in February when I hit a middle set on the flop (I had 10's). Then the turn came which paired up the board and gave me the boat/full house. I had raised after I flopped the set, and then just checked it to him on the turn, hoping to have him make a bet. Well, of course, on the river, a Q lands which gave him a higher boat than I did. The only 2 outs he had and he hit one of them. Hell yeah, he bets $75, I went over the top with my all in for about $140-ish... :no:
 
#128
#128
I love catching people who get caught bluffing and try to buy the hand with huge over-bets. I've called people with most or all my stack with Ace High a couple of times- just because I knew they didn't have anything.
 
#129
#129
SWIL said:
I love catching people who get caught bluffing and try to buy the hand with huge over-bets. I've called people with most or all my stack with Ace High a couple of times- just because I knew they didn't have anything.
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When I do that, they usually have a pair of 3s or dueces against my ace. :cray:You read correctly that they are over betting, but still... pretty risky if you've got jack squat.
 
#132
#132
Dealt a couple of games of strip poker on Friday night. Might I say that I'm a pretty good cheater... here's to getting the girls naked without seeing wang! LOL.
 
#134
#134
Fine Vol said:
Some nights you just run bad no matter how well you play.
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That's why I always like to think about how I played on the way home. If you can look back and say that you made the right moves and just got bad cards and the odds went against you, then do the same thing again.

That's "gambling." In poker, even a dominant hand might only be 2:1. If you judge your performance based solely on the outcome of one or two lucky draws for your opponent, then you will be worse for it. Play good cards, and play often, and you'll win more than you lose.

I don't remember which book it was that I read, but the "mantra" went something to the effect of: Get the most chips you can in the pot with the better hand.
 
#135
#135
Well, about 3 hours ago, I was sitting with pocket 9s. Someone had raised to $30 and I called. Guy 4 seats down raises to $100. I thought about it... this guy had been dumping off chips the past 2-3 weeks. I was already up about $400. Thought about it... and called. Flop comes 9d, Q?, and a 3d. He's first to act and goes all in for about $350ish. I insta-call. He rolls over Ad Kd. Rivers a diamond.

Not a bad beat in my case, because I had the chips to call $100 pre-flop and he even showed his ace when he went all in after the flop. It was a a questionable call on my part for $100 to begin with. But the guy had been playing rags all night. Man, to know that I was ahead pre-flop and flopped a set and still get run down on the river... :no:

Oh well...
 
#136
#136
Didn't do too badly for myself Saturday night at the casino. Probably would have won more if it weren't for the stupid $5 limit. I hate playing poker in these casinos. Stupid state law, anyway! You have to be super patient and only play when you got the goods. There was this one d-bag that called almost anything and would hit his flush or straight on the river every time. Any time he had two suited cards, he was in the pot. I don't know how many times he held J6, 79, 58 suited and hit the river. One time a J on the river made his flush, but it also made someone's boat. That was fun to watch. That's what I hate about playing limit poker. Too many people in the pots and chasers to the river.
 
#137
#137
Played yesterday and there was a guy like that, but it was no limit ($1/$2). He called every flush and inside straight draw post-flop that he cam near. As long as the bet wasn't twice the pot or more, he called, regardless of the numbers. For four hours, he missed and missed and missed.

And then I watched for an hour as he started hitting them. And hitting them. Over and over.

He didn't get me, but I'd say he lost $400 in the first four hours, but had battled back close to even when I left. Really dismaying.

What was interesting, though, was how streaky he was. I mean, I can go card dead here and there like anyone else. Also get lucky a few times in a row with big hands holding up. But usually the tale of whether I win or lose over the course of several hours is how well I'm playing, whether I'm tired, etc. This guy was a solid fours hours of squat, followed by a distinct turning point and hitting terrible draws consistently.
 
#138
#138
Anyone know when the ESPN schedule starts for the 2008 WSOP? Blocked from any site regarding poker here at work. Even ESPN's poker page. Ugh!
 
#139
#139
I raise pre flop with AA. Everyone folds button calls 3000. 6000 in pot and I have 5000 left. FLOP Q-6-3 rainbow. I push and get insta call and she flips 66.
 
#140
#140
Fine Vol said:
I raise pre flop with AA. Everyone folds button calls 3000. 6000 in pot and I have 5000 left. FLOP Q-6-3 rainbow. I push and get insta call and she flips 66.
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Against a lower pocket pair, you are only a 4-1 favorite. In other woirds, you will lose one out of five times. You don't remember the other four., But the fitfh? Seems like it happens all the time, doesn't it?
 
#142
#142
lawgator1 said:
Against a lower pocket pair, you are only a 4-1 favorite. In other woirds, you will lose one out of five times. You don't remember the other four., But the fitfh? Seems like it happens all the time, doesn't it?
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Very true, easy to remember the beats and forget the great plays you make.
 
#145
#145
I've been following it a bit this year. Did you hear what Phil Laak did?

He showed up for day one wearing a heavy disguise. A mask, make-up, mustache. He'd really been done over and never said a word. People at his table didn't know who he was until it was figured out later by some reporters.

He's still in, I think, although he has gone back to his normal appearance.
 
#146
#146
I try to avoid finding out the results as much as I can before they air. Did he also register under a fake name, because I'm pretty sure people know who is sitting at their table? Isn't there a table roster before you sit down?
 
#148
#148
Kev, reports I have read are that he registered under his name and fooled the tv people and reporters who kept trying to find him since they figured the seat assignment was mistaken.

I like Laak. I think he's entertaining and a good player.

More important, he routinely gets to play bedroom olympics with Jennifer Tilly and that makes me quite envious!
 
#149
#149
Meh! She's got a big, sloppy rack and that's about it. Her voice grates my last nerve. Watching her on Poker After Dark a while back just confirmed my disdain for her.
 
#150
#150
I have no problem with Laak. He was nice guy when I met him and kept seeing him at the Rio. I enjoy his show with Antonio on Mojo, too.
 
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