Bashing needs to stop

#352
#352
JOEY'S ALL VOL !!! said:
You defending Dooley now ? or maybe it's that you read on a 2nd grade level.


As to this season, yes talent, depth and schedule contributed to decline but so did poor coaching and it's evident to anyone that was paying attention. Coaches aren't perfect and it's okay to admit that ours isn't either. Coaching and talent have to improve for TN to compete on a weekly basis in the SEC.
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This is a very refreshing post. Thank you, sir.
 
#353
#353
TGVol said:
Beating Butch and the best staff in America does not look good on Dooley's resume?
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With all due respect, That's a dumb, sophomoric comment. Fade makes a good point. With respect to resumes, the one with a .650 winning % and 4 championships looks a little better than the one with a .420 winning % and 3 consecutive losing seasons... despite 1 win at home vs a Big East team with no better than a Top 50 recruiting class in any year.
 
#354
#354
Pig Skin said:
I said on field so I wasn't talking about recruiting.

Neal would have already been over 1,000 if our plays didn't take 3 seconds to develop. I'm all about being honest. Almost half of our rushing yards came against OVC, MAC, & Sunbelt teams or in garbage time in a blowout against 2nd & 3rd string defenses. It's there in black and white if anyone wants to look.

Beating USCe was one of the few (or "little" as I think I put it) positive things from this year.

Worley didn't develop much, imo, but he didn't necessarily regress.

The GA game looks better than it is. We were playing their 3rd string and still couldn't stop a a freshman and poor man's Mike Alstott at RB after their studs went down. Even Murray looked like RGIII pre knee surgery running the ball.

Palardy's turn around has been amazing. He'll not kick FGs unless in an emergency situation, but he's played himself into having a shot at being an NFL punter this year. However, he's gone & it's hard for me to think that his mental state wouldn't improve dramatically by simply not telling him "don't **** this up" every time he went out to kick a FG like Dooley did.

Team attitude: like Tiny guaranteeing that we would let Vandy win? Like not being nasty enough to get 1 yard to ice the game? Like ripping a helmet off an opposing player that cost us the GA game as much as anything? I get what you are trying to say. I do. But I think the team attitude has been as much about lip service instead of proof of a culture change.

Not trying to be a smart alec with any of that, but that's as honest as I can be.
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Worley did improve. Not to the nfl level but he improved.
That may be where some are having issues. When they say improved they don't mean got better, they mean went from sucking to being first round draft players.
 
#355
#355
allvol123 said:
Breaking News:

Jones unable to turn around Dooley boondoggle in 10 months. Returning talented offensive skill players were sought for answers, but none could be found.

Dimwits everywhere shocked.
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He tried to do it by doing things that we were nowhere near suited to do. Look beyond talent, or are you ignorant (not an insult- simply means you don't know) when it comes to football related schemes?

But please continue with the name-calling. It really helps your argument. I'm mean really-really.
 
#356
#356
Pig Skin said:
He tried to do it by doing things that we were nowhere near suited to do. Look beyond talent, or are you ignorant (not an insult- simply means you don't know) when it comes to football related schemes?

But please continue with the name-calling. It really helps your argument. I'm mean really-really.
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Oh please do tell me, exactly what this mish mash of offensive talent is suited to do? You know...scheme wise, what was your call?
 
#358
#358
KBVol said:
With all due respect, That's a dumb, sophomoric comment. Fade makes a good point. With respect to resumes, the one with a .650 winning % and 4 championships looks a little better than the one with a .420 winning % and 3 consecutive losing seasons... despite 1 win at home vs a Big East team with no better than a Top 50 recruiting class in any year.
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Translation: You can only highlight information that supports your premise while completely disregarding anything that doesn't as unimportant.
 
#359
#359
orangeslice13 said:
Worley did improve. Not to the nfl level but he improved.
That may be where some are having issues. When they say improved they don't mean got better, they mean went from sucking to being first round draft players.
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Hmmm.

I'll be willing to go with "he didn't suck as bad later as he did early" which I guess by definition is improvement.
 
#360
#360
Butch knows all this ribblerabble comes with the territory...he has said as much...he ain't getting fired or quitting this year. Let's see how the mix of talent works after a year in his system...resume accountability diatribes.
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#361
#361
allvol123 said:
Oh please do tell me, exactly what this mish mash of offensive talent is suited to do? You know...scheme wise, what was your call?
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I pointed all that out a few posts back. Go read it.

Now, come with the "why don't you go coach" or intelligence insults instead of bringing substance. Bring the thunder of your knowledge.
 
#362
#362
Pig Skin said:
Hmmm.

I'll be willing to go with "he didn't suck as bad later as he did early" which I guess by definition is improvement.
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He wasn't recruited by his home state schools. Maybe just maybe "didn't suck as bad as he once did" is his max.
How high can you jump?
This time next year could you get to a 48in vert if you applied yourself?
 
#363
#363
Pig Skin said:
I pointed all that out a few posts back. Go read it.

Now, come with the "why don't you go coach" or intelligence insults instead of bringing substance. Bring the thunder of your knowledge.
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No thanks, I don't find your stuff interesting enough.

Some guy wanting the head coach to abandon his scheme for 1 year just so he can try to get a 6th or 7th win is as clueless as it gets.

CBJ is going big picture. Not, fan on the couch spewing chips out his mouth picture.
 
#364
#364
allvol123 said:
No thanks, I don't find your stuff interesting enough.

Some guy wanting the head coach to abandon his scheme for 1 year just so he can try to get a 6th or 7th win is as clueless as it gets.

CBJ is going big picture. Not, fan on the couch spewing chips out his mouth picture.
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You're a good one allvol :)
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#365
#365
orangeslice13 said:
He wasn't recruited by his home state schools. Maybe just maybe "didn't suck as bad as he once did" is his max.
How high can you jump?
This time next year could you get to a 48in vert if you applied yourself?
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I see your point.

I have a massive 15/16ths vertical if you must know. #beastmode
 
#368
#368
Pig Skin said:
Translation: You can only highlight information that supports your premise while completely disregarding anything that doesn't as unimportant.
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So you prefer Dooley?

If you were hiring a coach, looking at resumes and didn't/couldn't see the names, you'd take the guy who had a .400 winning % at La Tech, followed up by a .420 winning % at his next job? Over a resume that shows a .650 winning % and 4 championships over 6 years at 2 different programs? Because the guy at SEC school beat the guy at the Big East school at home with far superior talent?

Guess you think I'm disregarding something here, but I'm not sure what other facts with respect to their "resumes" are "important".
 
#369
#369
allvol123 said:
Just look at all the players UF and UGA lost this year.

Their injuries basically brought them down to our level, talent wise. Well closer at least, we had nothing close to a Murray or Gurley to fall back on.

What happened next? They lose games. I guess, amazingly, coaches forget how to coach when the top players are not around. Strange how that happens.
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We are working under 2 different premises regarding Jones.
 
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#370
KBVol said:
So you prefer Dooley?

If you were hiring a coach, looking at resumes and didn't/couldn't see the names, you'd take the guy who had a .400 winning % at La Tech, followed up by a .420 winning % at his next job? Over a resume that shows a .650 winning % and 4 championships over 6 years at 2 different programs? Because the guy at SEC school beat the guy at the Big East school at home with far superior talent?

Guess you think I'm disregarding something here, but I'm not sure what other facts with respect to their "resumes" are "important".
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Game. Set. Match.
 
#371
#371
KBVol said:
So you prefer Dooley?

If you were hiring a coach, looking at resumes and didn't/couldn't see the names, you'd take the guy who had a .400 winning % at La Tech, followed up by a .420 winning % at his next job? Over a resume that shows a .650 winning % and 4 championships over 6 years at 2 different programs? Because the guy at SEC school beat the guy at the Big East school at home with far superior talent?

Guess you think I'm disregarding something here, but I'm not sure what other facts with respect to their "resumes" are "important".
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Boom!...roasted
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#375
#375
allvol123 said:
No thanks, I don't find your stuff interesting enough.

Some guy wanting the head coach to abandon his scheme for 1 year just so he can try to get a 6th or 7th win is as clueless as it gets.

CBJ is going big picture. Not, fan on the couch spewing chips out his mouth picture.
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Awesome. You didn't disappoint!

I'm sure "adapt" and "abandon" have completely different meanings. Or is comprehension too uninteresting for you as well?


Big picture, I get it....
Gotta get that OL a year of full immersion in his system for next year, right? Wait, aren't they going to be gone? I think they are....

But at least our starting RB will benefit big picture wise... Wait, he's a senior too? Well crap.

Our receivers will benefit for sure. Because the read option mesh points/reads are really important for the WRs to learn.

But the back-up OL will be ready to roll day one next season. What? They're terrible & are being recruited over as we speak with several JUCOs that are expected to come in and contribute immediately.

So yeah. I see your point of refusing to ADAPT your offense to give your team the best opportunity at success. You've won me over with your comments about others being "stupid and ignorant, av123. That's some real substance. I'm going to go reevaluate my life as a result. Damn the torpedeoes! Full steam ahead!
 
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