Bruce Feldman and Tim Brando criticize the SEC's handling of LSU/Florida

[VOL 4 Life 83]

I don't play football anymore.

I seriously doubt you'll be able to convince either Florida or LSU as that is probably about $10m loss of the 19th home games, then you have to pay 3rd party venue as well. That doesn't include local loss.

As far as I know, no proposed dates have been communicated to LSU. LSU appears to have offered Dec 3rd.

You'll see. SEC initially screwed the pooch. Now to make up for it he will force the hands of both teams and make them play. Just watch

 

[Jim]

Both teams awarded a forfiet unless replay agreement can be reached.

We have a winner. Keep it simple. Don't play the game and have a guaranteed loss or change the sheets of the bed you pissed and have around a 50% chance of earning a win.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I don't play football anymore.

I seriously doubt you'll be able to convince either Florida or LSU as that is probably about $10m loss of the 19th home games, then you have to pay 3rd party venue as well. That doesn't include local loss.

As far as I know, no proposed dates have been communicated to LSU. LSU appears to have offered Dec 3rd.

Good deal maybe both will not obey the Commish to play the game and get sanctioned. Bonus to get both of you! Woohoo👍

 

[LSU-SIU]

Good deal maybe both will not obey the Commish to play the game and get sanctioned. Bonus to get both of you! Woohoo👍

Again, nobody has to play, but they can forfeit. The Commissioner might be able change times or dates but nobody has to show up or host. The forfeit is the sanction, get it?

 

[NorthDallas40]

Again, nobody has to play, but they can forfeit. The Commissioner might be able change times or dates but nobody has to show up or host. The forfeit is the sanction, get it?

Nope it isn't. That's just the result of the game.

Get it?

 

[LSU-SIU]

Nope it isn't. That's just the result of the game.

Get it?

That's not how any of this works. haha. I have to assume you are trolling.

The commissioner can't fine LSU a billion dollars, it has to be appropriate, when a team doesn't show that normally results in a forfeit. I assume the bylaws allow for an appeal, then from there to federal court, I am guessing but probably close. LSU easily wins that as it would not be appropriate, and the sec acted with unclean hands and failed to mitigate.

I have to admit Foley's plan worked flawlessly, and Stinkey keeps digging, noob.

 

[NorthDallas40]

That's not how any of this works. haha. I have to assume you are trolling.

Well you would know trolling when you see it that's for sure!

Go read the bylaws and commissioner 's regulations cupcake. I posted an applicable subset earlier.

Here's the short lesson for you again as I know your attention span is short.

If the game is outright cancelled then it is wiped from the SEC records. It never existed. And it's straight up win/loss percentage.

Thus if we lose 2 and UF doesn't lose anymore then that determines the SEC winner. And in Sankeys first 6 months of a job he will have completely botched the championship of the biggest sport in the conference.

He isn't going to let a cancellation determine the outcome of the division champs. So if that looks like a possibility within the next 8 weeks he WILL force both institutions hand and schedule a game. Answer it or don't. It will be on the institutions to comply. If they don't they are in violation of the bylaws. And they are not going to do that either. They won't risk the fallout.

Regardless it will not be allowed to affect the outcome of the conference championship. The whole body of schools won't let let happen.

I know I know. I'll just answer it for you.

oh well whatever we will just forfeit the game then. Just give LSU the loss.

Lol...

 

[LSU-SIU]

Nope it isn't. That's just the result of the game.

Get it?

Well you would know trolling when you see it that's for sure!

Go read the bylaws and commissioner 's regulations cupcake. I posted an applicable subset earlier.

Here's the short lesson for you again as I know your attention span is short.

If the game is outright cancelled then it is wiped from the SEC records. It never existed. And it's straight up win/loss percentage.

Thus if we lose 2 and UF doesn't lose anymore then that determines the SEC winner. And in Sankeys first 6 months of a job he will have completely botched the championship of the biggest sport in the conference.

He isn't going to let a cancellation determine the outcome of the division champs. So if that looks like a possibility within the next 8 weeks he WILL force both institutions hand and schedule a game. Answer it or don't. It will be on the institutions to comply. If they don't they are in violation of the bylaws. And they are not going to do that either. They won't risk the fallout.

Regardless it will not be allowed to affect the outcome of the conference championship. The whole body of schools won't let let happen.

I know I know. I'll just answer it for you.

oh well whatever we will just forfeit the game then. Just give LSU the loss.

Lol...

I can only speculate as to what happens, but the commissioner doesn't have unlimited power. There is always oversight, always. The SEC should have mitigated and acted....its actually real simple. Florida is sitting back and laughing, their plan worked perfectly.

The only way the SEC can even get a team to forfeit, is to probably match them up again, right now there are no common dates. As LSU said, its unlikely the game will be rescheduled.

 

[NorthDallas40]

From SEC Commissioners Regulations, Interrupted Game Procedures, Section 2: Authority

Authority to delay or relocate a contest is vested with the home institutions Athletics Director or designated senior level administrator. Authority to suspend a contest is vested with the officials. Authority to cancel, postpone, or terminate a contest is vested only with the Commissioner or his/her designee.

*yawn* this isn't even fun anymore. Night night cupcake! Go dream of glorious forfeits!!

 

[LSU-SIU]

*yawn* this isn't even fun anymore. Night night cupcake! Go dream of glorious forfeits!!

What does that have to do with anything?

The commissioner could cancel a sec game. My guess you'll find appeals in a different section. In this case he could cancel the game, I assume a team could appeal determination. I can't say I have read 2 pages of the bylaws, but this is normally how things like this are structured.

Tennessee might be known for bluegrass but Foley played Stinkey like a fiddle. I'm not sure if I remember an organization getting schooled this bad, I guess maybe on a contract deal or trade....this is actually funny.

 

[Coug]

Florida fans shouldn't even be in here TRYING to defend this blatant idiocy. This entire situation was mishandled by Florida, LSU, and Greg Sankey. It's become a national joke.

North Carolina State and Notre Dame literally played in the middle of the Hurricane. No excuses!

 

[onevol74]

That's not how any of this works. haha. I have to assume you are trolling.

The commissioner can't fine LSU a billion dollars, it has to be appropriate, when a team doesn't show that normally results in a forfeit. I assume the bylaws allow for an appeal, then from there to federal court, I am guessing but probably close. LSU easily wins that as it would not be appropriate, and the sec acted with unclean hands and failed to mitigate.

I have to admit Foley's plan worked flawlessly, and Stinkey keeps digging, noob.

Interesting, so LSU showed up in Gainesville last Saturday? I don't think so. Bring on the sanctions.

 

[VOL 4 Life 83]

I can only speculate as to what happens, but the commissioner doesn't have unlimited power. There is always oversight, always. The SEC should have mitigated and acted....its actually real simple. Florida is sitting back and laughing, their plan worked perfectly.

The only way the SEC can even get a team to forfeit, is to probably match them up again, right now there are no common dates. As LSU said, its unlikely the game will be rescheduled.

Nothing in the bylaws said the commissioner had to act last week.

However there IS one that says the game must be rescheduled with authority from the commissioner.

So yeah, LSU and UF are gonna play the game whether you like it or not. Just watch, you'll see

 

[LSU-SIU]

Nothing in the bylaws said the commissioner had to act last week.

However there IS one that says the game must be rescheduled with authority from the commissioner.

So yeah, LSU and UF are gonna play the game whether you like it or not. Just watch, you'll see

I actually didn't say the game wouldn't be played but I can see why LSU and Florida say it is unlikely, right now I don't see it. Florida's plan work flawlessly so far. A contract can list duties but not list exactly what each party must or must not do. If the game was important, the Commissioner should have done his duty last week. In this instance, he failed to mitigate, and then on Saturday he misrepresented the fact, imo.

He could possibly move some games for October 29th date but it doesn't sound like LSU shows up. Whether they do or don't we would have to speculate, but from I heard Georgia's AD said no way as their game would have to be moved in less then 11 days. idk

Either way December 3rd looks like the closest that you are going to find at least an agreed date. And no, neither Florida or LSU have to play, and no neither team is going to be fine a billion dollars. Foley is just sitting back smiling as to his creation, and you probably won't here much from them as to dates as they have no incentive to accommodate the SEC further..... as they don't want to play the game.

I for one can't predict the outcome, I go with not played, but December 3rd is a possibility from LSU's perspective, I just don't know why Florida would agree, and I'm sure both parties are going to lay the planning up to the SEC. Time will tell.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitigation_(law)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_faith

 

[Tidal Surge]

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[508mikey]

LSU AD holds firm on UF makeup date: 'We're going to have a home game on Nov. 19' - SEC Blog- ESPN both should have a forfiet loss eff em

 

[LSU-SIU]

LSU AD holds firm on UF makeup date: 'We're going to have a home game on Nov. 19' - SEC Blog- ESPN both should have a forfiet loss eff em

Wasn't ESPN outlet supplying the world with false information on Friday? I didn't read the article but I can see the title.

LSU has no choice, its can't schedule on its own and as far as I know Florida rejected all changes last week to the schedule, and right now it doesn't look like any party has come to LSU this week with any proposals.

Either way, LSU already has a virtual L, not sure if it really matters if its a forfeit, but I don't see how that is even possible as the SEC really hasn't been involved.... and neither one is going to give up their non-conference pay days for a problem the SEC created.

 

[rltw1974]

Who should take the most blame on the postponed/cancelled game.

At first I thought is was Florida but now I am leaning more towards LSU's AD. Sankey seems to be getting bullied by both schools and it is going to cost us in the end.

If we handle business this weekend then all is a moot point but if not Florida is in the drivers seat for the SECCG without playing on their tougher games.

 

[volfannbama]

Who should take the most blame on the postponed/cancelled game.

At first I thought is was Florida but now I am leaning more towards LSU's AD. Sankey seems to be getting bullied by both schools and it is going to cost us in the end.

If we handle business this weekend then all is a moot point but if not Florida is in the drivers seat for the SECCG without playing on their tougher games.

Florida AD / SEC commissioner

 

[jakez4ut]

the pendulum has swung. last week, Foley was being stubborn, and they should have had the foresight to have a plan b for Sunday or Monday. (i get the hurricaine/safety aspect of things, believe me, so i'm not discounting what was most important at the time)... then you throw the comish under the bus for not forcing the issue...he can't make them do it, but he can, and should have, laid out their options so they understood ramifications of not figuring it out...doesn't look like he did that....and then fast forward to this week and JA at LSU now looks like he didn't want to be left out of the d**che bag fest and basically told the SEC and FL to f off, we're having a home game here on the 19th, period.

so, you can pick whichever you want, but it's as epic a failure of leadership, across the board, as we've seen in a long time.

 

[jakez4ut]

GA AD has already said NO to that idea.

 

[jakez4ut]

Wasn't ESPN outlet supplying the world with false information on Friday? I didn't read the article but I can see the title.

LSU has no choice, its can't schedule on its own and as far as I know Florida rejected all changes last week to the schedule, and right now it doesn't look like any party has come to LSU this week with any proposals.

Either way, LSU already has a virtual L, not sure if it really matters if its a forfeit, but I don't see how that is even possible as the SEC really hasn't been involved.... and neither one is going to give up their non-conference pay days for a problem the SEC created.

don't take this the wrong way....

we don't care about the LSU perspective.eace2:

 

[madbamahater]

SEC commissioner for sure. Florida for playing hard ball and deliberately not agreeing to anything at all.

It has been widely reported that LSU has proposed numerous scenarios and their main gripe is they don't won't to lose a home game. Which is understandable.

Commissioner should punish Florida and move game to Baton Rouge at end of season. No questions asked.

Florida, by far, has been the most unreasonable. The Commissioner has been the most irresponsible by far....

 

[05_never_again]

Ultimately, it will be Sankey's fault if the game is not played. He's supposed to be the big boy in the room and is being pushed around by the 2 ADs, particularly Foley.

If reports are true, Foley played him like a fiddle the week before the game by slow playing his decision-making about moving the game, and by Thursday it was too late to do anything.

 

[Jax_Vol]

Florida