Butch Jones "Vows to bring the Vols back"

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There is no question in my mind that he is a better FOOTBALL coach than Dooley and probably Kiffen too. I'm excited to see what he can do with the decent talent we can put on the field next year!

kiffen had some of the fire that bUTch has but it is in a punk beeotch flavor. He has effectively neutralized national championship talent with poor coaching skills.

His recruiting has been questionable, risky and violation laden.

I hear he is a lousy driver too. I'm glad he paid UT to leave the university.

Dooley recruited better than kiffen I think.

But he is a bulldog in Blue Tick's fur.

I am grateful that he created VFL program. He was good father figure coach but a marginal trainer-coach and game-day coach. Dooley needs to work on his water skiing skill set too!
 
#77
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Is it just me or do the walls in that picture look like they are redoing the drywall?

Just you....I don't see it.
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I don't know if everyone got a lot of feedback from Thursday's post signing day celebration, but in Nashville the impression he left with fans was beyond strong.

It was great to watch him talking to fans at the Downtown Hilton, and privately he was reiterating that we will be back on top sooner than later. People, we have a coach who gets it. Butch Jones will not stop until he has us contending for national championships.

How much you wanna bet the guy on the phone in that picture is on volnation?
 
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Did kiffin and dooley not say the same thing??? Seriously talk is cheap. Just get the job done and let it speak for itself. I don't understand why people need to get all fluffed up by talk that is a given. What else is he suppose to say?!?!?

Look at his past and you would see how he is a winner. You probably though Urban Meyer sucked coming from a lowly Utah State.

(Sorry I used Urban Liar as an example but I had to show Gump how he was incorrect.)
 
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$3,000,000.00 PR speach sounds good to hungry Vol fans

We could be hearing the same speach after paying out over 6,000,000.00 for an unproven NFL Broadcaster. Instead we are hearing it from a proven college coach with a winning record. Gruden is still not coming man. Time to move on
 
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The bigger question is why do some people get so irritated at such comments.
You really think Butch thinks he can just talk and not win? He is the head of the team and a spokesman for the team. Clamming up and being quiet until the season doesn't quite cut it for the job description.

I'm not irritated by what he said. I'm irritated by the fact that people on here act like he's the next coming of Neyland cause he says this type of stuff. He got cheered at a get together cause they said they are going to switch to 4-3. Ok...now what I'm suppose to fluff ur nutz cause u came up with such a novel idea??? Give me a break. He can say what he wants but people need to not set themselves up for disappointment with "sales talk." I know people think what dooley went about it wasn't good but the guy laid out the issues and said we need to get them fixed to succeed. Instead of masking them with BS and when it crumples everyone on here is standing around with their jocks in their hands. We all know there are issues don't try to tell me there aren't and expect me to accept it. Not saying he can't get it done just going to sit back and watch him do it. Not just take his word for it.
 
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What kind of mindset r u reffering too?? I know u liked him but what makes u think anyone could have gotten anything done in such a short period of time? Not only was there a bunch of drama in the AD, he had 3 yrs of the toughest strech of football someone can go through. Its like telling someone they couldn't preform well at there job of being a Tent Puter Up Guy when his first gig was in the middle of a hurricane or tornado.

I think Dooley approached it with a realist's mindset. Dooley is a planner, a thinker, a manager of processes. His goal was to get order restored to a program that was in total and complete chaos. And hopefully win games. Everything he did was going towards that goal. That's what planners do.

I think Jones approaches it with an idealist's mindset. His goal is to win, and that's it. He's a competitor and everything he does is going towards the goal of winning, at everything. That's what competitors do.

Both have their place, and both can produce positive results depending on the circumstances.
 
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Wylo, don't act like he was coaching Florida's talent when he got beat by Dooley. He got beat by Dooley because the talent difference allowed it. Also keep in mind that after we beat Cincy, they went on to a 10-2 record with a Big East title. How did we end the season? With a 5-7 record and a loss to KY.

If you're going to spew garbage, at least bring all the facts to the conversation.

EDIT* 10-3 record and shared a conf. title

True he didn't have Floridas talent but let's remember he hardly had upperclassman and was using a team full of underclassman to win. Though talented let's not underestimate the importance of experience especially in the SEC.

Also u throw out CBJ/Cincys record compared to dooleys...did cincy play Bama, LSU, Arky (with Petrino) from the SEC W on top of the regular SEC East schedule?? All with the above under experienced team that also lost one of its main players early.

Now I know u are all about facts so feel free to correct mine if I'm just "spewing garbage" too.
 
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If BJ was out here saying nothing or talking about how Tn will struggle this year, he would still be getting bashed. He is damned if he do or damned if he don't.
Dooley just made up excuses as he went along. He never talked a good talk. He was a fraud from day one and smart enough to fool his followers all the way to his firing and I'm sure there still some followers who are butt hurt because he isn't here now.
Either get behind BJ or find another team. It's pretty simple. He wasnt my top choice but the man is busting his azz and is great full to be the coach at UT. He has showed more passion for UT in 2 months than Dooley did in 3 years.Give the man a chance


The head coach is the face of the program..in effect the CEO of Volco..if your new CEO had the ultimate success at his previous gig...like Saban at LSU..then he can sell the investors (us the fans) in low key monosyllabic tones..success breeds success. A new head honcho who had positive experiences at lower level gigs and has big time exciting ideas for his shot with the big boys will sell the hell out of his new baby...especially when he believes in it...we should expect and want this approach
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#90
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Itching for evidence that this staff can compete for championships?
Just can't wait for next season's results to speak for themselves?

Well, then I'd suggest getting an insider to report on the locker room. If it's getting nasty and smells really bad, then there's some solid evidence we're back. If the players in there aren't trying to comprehend some legal jargon re: hygiene, then I'd say that's some good evidence and should tide you over for now.
 
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"Oskie Volum;8289380]Did kiffin and dooley not say the same thing??? Seriously talk is cheap. Just get the job done and let it speak for itself. I don't understand why people need to get all fluffed up by talk that is a given. What else is he suppose to say?!?!?"




It not out of the question that kiffin could have brought us back and the boldest thing dooley ever said was that you "wouldnt have Tennessee to kick around anymore," and we werent kicked around (by most teams.) Butch will have to walk the walk but i like his enthusiasm and attitude and should have our full support unless he proves otherwise.
 
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I think Dooley approached it with a realist's mindset. Dooley is a planner, a thinker, a manager of processes. His goal was to get order restored to a program that was in total and complete chaos. And hopefully win games. Everything he did was going towards that goal. That's what planners do.

I think Jones approaches it with an idealist's mindset. His goal is to win, and that's it. He's a competitor and everything he does is going towards the goal of winning, at everything. That's what competitors do.

Both have their place, and both can produce positive results depending on the circumstances.

I couldn't agree with u more Volly. So my problem is that at the time Dooley came in we needed the type of person he is and why I don't think he was given enough time. Honestly though I don't know if the AD and football program is repaired and needs the type of coach CBJ is. If I felt like it was then I wouldn't have an issue so much with putting "some" blind faith in him. I just honestly don't think the basic foundation is solid yet.

I've said this before but I'd don't just look at the situation at UT from the eyes of a fan or alum, but from a professional view as well. Imho the program and AD are not on solid ground. Don't know when it will be but my want for dooley to stay wasn't because I had a crush on his hair but because imho he was the best combo of biz rebuilding smarts and coach. Not many out there with that combo. We need to remember cfb is a biz not just football.
 
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Did kiffin and dooley not say the same thing??? Seriously talk is cheap. Just get the job done and let it speak for itself. I don't understand why people need to get all fluffed up by talk that is a given. What else is he suppose to say?!?!?

Kiffin did and he improved the team in year 1. I don't remember Dooley ever saying that and he declined each year. So lets have a positive attitude and hopefully head in the right direction.
 
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I couldn't agree with u more Volly. So my problem is that at the time Dooley came in we needed the type of person he is and why I don't think he was given enough time. Honestly though I don't know if the AD and football program is repaired and needs the type of coach CBJ is. If I felt like it was then I wouldn't have an issue so much with putting "some" blind faith in him. I just honestly don't think the basic foundation is solid yet.

I've said this before but I'd don't just look at the situation at UT from the eyes of a fan or alum, but from a professional view as well. Imho the program and AD are not on solid ground. Don't know when it will be but my want for dooley to stay wasn't because I had a crush on his hair but because imho he was the best combo of biz rebuilding smarts and coach. Not many out there with that combo. We need to remember cfb is a biz not just football.

I know the situation was bad, but what in the world did Dooley show that you think he deserved more time.
 
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I couldn't agree with u more Volly. So my problem is that at the time Dooley came in we needed the type of person he is and why I don't think he was given enough time. Honestly though I don't know if the AD and football program is repaired and needs the type of coach CBJ is. If I felt like it was then I wouldn't have an issue so much with putting "some" blind faith in him. I just honestly don't think the basic foundation is solid yet.

I've said this before but I'd don't just look at the situation at UT from the eyes of a fan or alum, but from a professional view as well. Imho the program and AD are not on solid ground. Don't know when it will be but my want for dooley to stay wasn't because I had a crush on his hair but because imho he was the best combo of biz rebuilding smarts and coach. Not many out there with that combo. We need to remember cfb is a biz not just football.

I think Dooley is as smart and calculated as they come. I think the issue was throwing in young men who are 18-22 yrs old. To be completely honest, I would like to see what would've happened with Dooley as the AD and Jones and HFC.

But, at the end of the day, I can't change anything. So being the pollyanna that I am, I'll just enjoy the things that are there for me to enjoy right now. And there are a LOT of things to feel good about in my opinion.
 
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I'm not setting high expectations this season, but I would love to see some sort of improvement on defense and a little hope for the next few seasons to come (something I never saw with Dooley at the helm...)
 
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I think Dooley is as smart and calculated as they come. I think the issue was throwing in young men who are 18-22 yrs old. To be completely honest, I would like to see what would've happened with Dooley as the AD and Jones and HFC.

But, at the end of the day, I can't change anything. So being the pollyanna that I am, I'll just enjoy the things that are there for me to enjoy right now. And there are a LOT of things to feel good about in my opinion.

IMO, Dooley was too realistic with the whole "Year 0" talk. While we all understood this was true, the players needed someone who believed in them. In hindsight, I'm not certain he ever believed in them and it showed on Saturdays.

Butch is just different. The talk sounds different. We need a can-do attitude on the hill and he's got it. He's a football version of Bruce Pearl.
 
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I think Dooley approached it with a realist's mindset. Dooley is a planner, a thinker, a manager of processes. His goal was to get order restored to a program that was in total and complete chaos. And hopefully win games. Everything he did was going towards that goal. That's what planners do.

I think Jones approaches it with an idealist's mindset. His goal is to win, and that's it. He's a competitor and everything he does is going towards the goal of winning, at everything. That's what competitors do.

Both have their place, and both can produce positive results depending on the circumstances.

good post vg.
 
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I think Dooley is as smart and calculated as they come. I think the issue was throwing in young men who are 18-22 yrs old. To be completely honest, I would like to see what would've happened with Dooley as the AD and Jones and HFC.

But, at the end of the day, I can't change anything. So being the pollyanna that I am, I'll just enjoy the things that are there for me to enjoy right now. And there are a LOT of things to feel good about in my opinion.

no fn way i would want Dooley as an AD.
 
I spoke with two fellow Tennessee fans at the Sports Barn Gym in Chattanooga tonight, and we all three are supporting Coach Jones and believe that he can get it done, if he is given the time. It took Coach Majors a little over 10 years to get it turned around at UT, and this will now be the 5th season since Coach Fulmer was fired. I know most people are impatient and I can be also, but we need to remember that it may very well be another 5 years to get completely back to being competitive and challenging the rest of the league for the SEC Championship.

Also, if Coach Jones and his staff are incapable of turning it around we will be like LSU was from the early 1980's until Saban got there in the early 2000's, mediocore. I know because I'm 46 and remember it very well, so I'm glad to see he believes in himself and what he intends to do for the program, and here is hoping that he is very successful!

Go Vols!
 

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