Chris Donald

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(Vol423 @ Aug 8 said:
This is absolutely true in most professions.
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I agree also. That is my point. You make yourself and your career, the school you attended does not.
 
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But degrees from some institutions will open more doors than others in certain professions. Once you step in that door it is up to you to keep from getting booted back out the door.
 
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(volmanjr @ Aug 8 said:
But degrees from some institutions will open more doors than others in certain professions. Once you step in that door it is up to you to keep from getting booted back out the door.
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True, and very few 17-year-olds know what they want to do with their life. While the overall education is what they look at, it may not be the best place for their future career. But it probably won't hurt it either. I wish I could choose my area of emphasis again based on what I'm doing right now.
 
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What about this... sticking in the same state, would you rather have an engineer from ND or Purdue? If you say bring me that kid from South Bend, you're an idiot.

Schools have specialties, and overall reputation doesn't necessarily reflect on the chosen degree.

Same goes for the UT vs. Vandy debate... for example there are two sports writers that have the same job on ESPN, except Paige got his degree a HECK of a lot cheaper.
 
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What is transport & logistics? To me that sounds like something that people learn in the military. I had never even heard of it as a field of study for a college degree until someone posted it in this thread. This leads me to a second question. What is up with people saying I have a degree in (fill-in the blank here). I know I'm probably a dinosaur being in my mid 30s and all, but I thought the only bachelors degrees are BA, BS and BBA. What am I missing here?
 
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The undergraduate degree is quickly becoming less helpful in attaining a high-paying job. A graduate degree is becoming more and more necessary. Graduate schools tend to be more expensive, so it could be a smart move to go to UT, save some dough and then head to a big time school for further education. I guess Donald doesn't have to worry about that, being on a full ride at either university.

Anyway, I agree that ND is more prestigious, but I cannot agree that UT does not have one single program that would top one of ND's. UT is not that bad of a school. There are actually some programs that are near the top nationally. If you seek a degree in anthropology, there really isn't a better place in the US than UT. I'm sure there are some other programs that could top ND.
 
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(VolunteerHillbilly @ Aug 8 said:
What is transport & logistics? To me that sounds like something that people learn in the military. I had never even heard of it as a field of study for a college degree until someone posted it in this thread. This leads me to a second question. What is up with people saying I have a degree in (fill-in the blank here). I know I'm probably a dinosaur being in my mid 30s and all, but I thought the only bachelors degrees are BA, BS and BBA. What am I missing here?
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Transportation and Logistics is one of the hotter fields in business today. It is something that is definitely used in the military, you can take the same ideas and apply them to business, in terms of materials management and flow of finished goods.
 
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(allvol123 @ Aug 8 said:
Transportation and Logistics is one of the hotter fields in business today. It is something that is definitely used in the military, you can take the same ideas and apply them to business, in terms of materials management and flow of finished goods.
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Thank-you for the explanation.
 
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(allvol123 @ Aug 8 said:
Transportation and Logistics is one of the hotter fields in business today. It is something that is definitely used in the military, you can take the same ideas and apply them to business, in terms of materials management and flow of finished goods.
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It's what I do. Many schools have started a similar program called Supply Chain Management.
 
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People are more important than degrees. By that I mean knowing the right people is much more important than the institution that grants your degree. In most professions they see that you have the appropriate degree and that is all. Knowing the right people will get you in position to get a job. They look at your resume and see that you have the approrpriate degree and are satisfied with that and move on with the hiring process. Now, going to an instituation such as ND usually puts you in a much better position to get to know the 'right people.' But, again that is relative to the situation. Then there are the professions where it does matter where your degree is from. But, these are only a small portion of careers.

I like what somebody said about the degree not making much difference after about 5 years on the job anyways. I agree with that. How much of what you learn in college pertains directly to your job? However, unfortunately, we are talking about perception by employers upon getting your first job.
 
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(utvolpj @ Aug 8 said:
It's what I do. Many schools have started a similar program called Supply Chain Management.
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Sounds like layman's Industrial Engineering to me.

Seriously, I've got a buddy that graduated from UT in Logistics... he works for BNSF in Dallas now.
 
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(rwemyss @ Aug 8 said:
Sounds like layman's Industrial Engineering to me.

Seriously, I've got a buddy that graduated from UT in Logistics... he works for BNSF in Dallas now.
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I work in IT for Logistics.

I would describe it as the poorman's Indus Eng. degree. My sis has an IE degree from GT and makes double what I do (and she's 2 years younger).
 
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Chris Donald just gave his commitment to Notre Dame

















Am I joking?















Of course I am. :biggrin2:
 
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(utvolpj @ Aug 8 said:
I work in IT for Logistics.

I would describe it as the poorman's Indus Eng. degree. My sis has an IE degree from GT and makes double what I do (and she's 2 years younger).
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Much in the mind of what is being said here... An engineering degree from Tech is money in the bank... a Lit degree? Not so much. :crazy:
 
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(rwemyss @ Aug 8 said:
Much in the mind of what is being said here... An engineering degree from Tech is money in the bank... a Lit degree? Not so much. :crazy:
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Yeah, she works for Oracle. The difference was that she knew in HS she wanted to be an engineer. Very few HS kids know what they want to do and can pick a school based on their future job.

And Management is the cop-out degree at GT. :biggrin2:
 
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(utvolpj @ Aug 8 said:
Yeah, she works for Oracle. The difference was that she knew in HS she wanted to be an engineer. Very few HS kids know what they want to do and can pick a school based on their future job.

And Management is the cop-out degree at GT. :biggrin2:
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Maybe its an engineering thing... I knew I was going into engineering in 7th grade. :biggrin2:
 
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I learned how to use Oracle. It is frustrating at first. But, its actually a simple database progrm to use. Got offered a job using it making more money than teaching, but I thought I might go insane doing that for a living. One day the money might sound good enough to make me change my mind. Haha. We'll see.

Anyone on here use Oracle extensively in their job? Any comments?
 
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(therickbol @ Aug 8 said:
I learned how to use Oracle. It is frustrating at first. But, its actually a simple database progrm to use. Got offered a job using it making more money than teaching, but I thought I might go insane doing that for a living. One day the money might sound good enough to make me change my mind. Haha. We'll see.

Anyone on here use Oracle extensively in their job? Any comments?
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Hell no, that's what the Oracle DBA's are for. You can bribe them w/ Subway!
 
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:blush2: :blush: My dad teaches SAP for a living...

In case no one knows, SAP is by far Oracle's largest competitor.
 
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I read something different than you OWB. I just saw where Donald commited to Hawaii Polytech Institute. He said in his statement that it was probably a surprise to people who follow recruiting but he said he could not pass up the opportunity to get a nationally reputable degree in Aerodynamic Anti-Friction Surfboard Design.
 
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(rwemyss @ Aug 8 said:
:blush2: :blush: My dad teaches SAP for a living...

In case no one knows, SAP is by far Oracle's largest competitor.
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I am about to get to know SAP real well... (that's all I can say)

Maybe your dad will come teach.
 
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(utvolpj @ Aug 8 said:
I am about to get to know SAP real well... (that's all I can say)

Maybe your dad will come teach.
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Maybe so. He works for SAP North America. He learned the product implementing it for Bridgestone/Firestone Americas, and moved on to the job with SAP. Funniest thing... he's a Mechanical Engineer. He likes to teach Plant Maintenence modules, but he also does general SAP classes. Only problem is traveling all the freakin' time now.
 
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