Clowney vs White

Clowney vs White

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#101
#101
Mr. White, hands down. Clowney is real good player, but the media builds him up more than he deserves.
 
#103
#103
orangesox said:
Reggie White is probably the best D-lineman in the history of the NFL. Clowney is really good and extremely talented and most likely has a bright future ahead of him, but at this point there is no comparison.
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There is no comparison. There is a reason Reggie White was called the Minister of Defense. 1 for his love for Jesus Christ and 2 because he arranged the meetings with Him after crushing them. Clowney has to play the way he is now plus 15 more years, then we'll can discuss.

:hi:

Tennesseeduke
 
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#104
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fade route said:
I'm a republican and trust me, that's not a good analogy.
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OK... Rand(not Ron) vs Obama in 4-3 Defense ??? I'm thinking that the POTUS goes low(illegally) and Rand stomps him on the way to yet another moral vote ... Sound about right ?
 
#105
#105
I honestly appreciate the OP for trying to find where Clown Face places in CF History. That said, Name me 10 Amazing plays #7 has made ? Michigan, Tennessee were Game changers.... 8 more to go ! And that's in COLLEGE ! The Minister could fill up Hours of NFL Films with amazing strength, quickness, determination, and he had an incredibly high Football IQ.... Nothing more or less than The GOAT and Proud VOLUNTEER !

Until he has few Pro Bowls and NFL D Player of the Year Trophy's to tote around he is all Potential ! MY $0.02 !
 
#106
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KBVol said:
??? Don't know what the point you're making with that analogy. Makes no sense.

Its more like asking more like would you prefer Ronald Reagan or Marco Rubio/Paul Ryan. One was arguably the greatest of all time, the other is really talented and promising but hasn't had near the career/time to show what he's gonna be.
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Stfu nerd
 
#107
#107
99gator said:
More like comparing a 10 year old future president of the United States to Abraham Lincoln
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Pretty much.

Clowney has shown flashes of being a legend if he continues on his current track. Reggie is already legend.
 
#108
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VKAman said:
So far, Clowney has 21 sacks, 35.5 TFLs, 2 All-SEC appearances, 1 SEC Freshman of the Year, 1 SEC DPOY, a unanimous All-American selection and a 6th-place finish in the Heisman voting.

At this point in White's career, he had 10 sacks, 7 TFLs, and zero of everything else.*

Like I said, it's not even close. Unless you're comparing a 20-year-old Clowney to a 30-year-old White, which is completely absurd.


*He did, however, win the Most Improved Volunteer on Defense award. So there's that.
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My dad and history would agree with you. Until Reggie's senior year. I don't really remember since I was only a few years old when he was playing. Said it was like he never got motivated or didn't put it together until his senior year and then was a phenom all of a sudden and dominated his senior/last year.

If people are trying to compare apples to apple I don't think you can bc Clowney won't even play his senior year of college and conditioning/athletes etc are different.

It would prob be better to compare pro years after Clowney has a few. People saying Reggie's pro career wasn't great (much earlier in the thread) didn't he have the sack record or some record until a couple years ago? HOF, defense player of year etc?

Anyways. Without orange colored glasses, Clowney's stats are better for the first few years of college. Doesn't mean I think he is a better person or better player long term. I would still rather have Reggie on my team his senior year for his playmaking, his character, leadership etc.

Maybe Clowney is a better athlete, Reggie a better long term football player and person but we'll have to see how Clowney does.
 
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44DivePlay said:
My dad and history would agree with you. Until Reggie's senior year. I don't really remember since I was only a few years old when he was playing. Said it was like he never got motivated or didn't put it together until his senior year and then was a phenom all of a sudden and dominated his senior/last year.

If people are trying to compare apples to apple I don't think you can bc Clowney won't even play his senior year of college and conditioning/athletes etc are different.

It would prob be better to compare pro years after Clowney has a few. People saying Reggie's pro career wasn't great, didn't he have the sack record or some record until a couple years ago?

Anyways. Without orange colored glasses, Clowney's stats are better for the first few years. Doesn't mean I think he is a better person or better player long term. I would still rather have Reggie on my team his senior year for his playmaking, his character, leadership etc.

Maybe Clowney is a better athlete, Reggie a better long term football player and person but we'll have to see how Clowney does.
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Sounds like a really good and different perspective ! Great input !
 
#111
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allvol81 said:
Does anyone beside me think that clowney will not dominate like last year simply cause he's already a lock in next years draft and injury fears . Aka Justin hunter 2012
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Do you have a link with actual proof that JH played scared last year to protect his NFL future. Proof?
 
#113
#113
CroKev said:
Jadeveon has to dominate the NFL for a few years before he can be mentioned in the same sentence with the "Minister of Defense."

Short story for your reading pleasure. Reggie was a year behind me at UT and Johnny Majors had just come back to his alma mater from Pittsburgh. Majors was a mean ol' guy that you didn't mess with. One day Majors was parking his big ol' convertible at Gibbs Hall and didn't see Reggie sneak behind the car. Reggie snuck up just behind the driver's side door and right when Majors opened the door and put his foot on the ground, Reggie started barking like a huge German Shepherd! Majors immediately pulled his leg back in the car and slammed the door. Of course, Reggie was rolling on the pavement afterwards and laughing.

Only Reggie could have gotten away with this with Coach Majors and lived to tell about it.
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Awesome story,I almost past out laughing!
 
#114
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papatomany said:
Exactly. Clowney's great, but it seemed to me like Tiny controlled him with only a little edge help; I saw Reggie consistently beat double and triple teams.
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This suggests an important distinction that has not been emphasized heavily enough in this discussion but should be taken into consideration in statistical comparison between Clowney and White. As a defensive end, Clowney typically has only one offensive lineman to beat as a pass rusher, whereas Reggie, as a defensive tackle, typically had to bull his way through two offensive linemen. For an interior defensive lineman to post the kind of numbers that Reggie recorded as a senior is, arguably, more difficult than it is for a defensive end to post comparable stats, particularly sacks.
 
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#118
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jps2194 said:
If your reasoning for Clowney being better is because he was a Heisman candidate, then you are truly delusional.:lolabove:
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So you think White was better as a sophomore than Clowney is?
 
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#122
#122
utvolpj said:
you only present one side and declare a winner?
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Yes. Good read on Reggie White's inspiration on 2013 Hall of Fame inductee Larry Allen.

Larry Allen reveals Reggie White inspiration - Sports Mole

Excerpt from Larry Allen's Hall of Fame speech.

"I'd like to thank [Hall of Fame vice-president] Joe Horrigan, and the Hall of Fame staff for making this and helping us plan this weekend. At dinner, he brought up a story about a game I had against the great Reggie White," said Allen.

"I have never been dominated like that before in my life. So I got in that weight room and became the strongest man in the NFL, and I did it naturally all right.
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#124
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VKAman said:
For the millionth time, Clowney is better at this age and it's not that close.
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The OP just asked who was better, not who was better at age 19. I do get your point. If Reggie had played DE in college it would be an easier comparison. The only apples to apples comparison will be at the next level.
 
#125
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utvolpj said:
that's great but Allen didn't face Reggie as a college soph did he?
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Just sharing thoughts from a Hall of Fame tackle who was the best o-linemen on one of the best offensive lines in NFL history. Nothing in the OP says anything about as a sophomore in college.
 
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