Critical race theory and elections

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Rasputin_Vol said:
GOP has been bumping their gums about killing the Dept. of Education since Reagan.
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BreatheUT said:
This would be a hard thing to get passed. The public school system has been around since early times. It's just in the last several decades it's been radicalized. This is more of a long term goal. The pandemic would've been the perfect time to make this pitch with all that was going on with the schools.

A more short term goal is school choice. This weeds out the bad school systems and bad teachers. At some point competition drives institutions to improve or become obsolete.

Colleges and universities are a harder nut to crack but it starts in controlling secondary school indoctrination. It seems more and more wackos are going into teaching.
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Common Core BS under the No Child Left Behind Act needs to be removed, amended, something. The way they teach kids math in particular is super dumb. They will have math problems like 2 + 2 = ? and then they ask kids, explain how you got your answer. The first time I saw it I was like what the hell do they mean? You add two and two you dumb assess! I still don’t know exactly what they wanted and that’s just one example of many.
 
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evillawyer said:
Candace Owens brother I'm hearing

Black man goes viral for rant against critical race theory at school board meeting—but he’s not your average ‘concerned parent’
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Wow she really gets under you skin doesn’t she. Cant stand to see an outspoken woman of color I guess. Your racist beliefs are on full display here today shrew 🤡

“There’s a rumor circulating online that claims Smith is conservative commentator Candace Owens’ brother. He even has a post saying he is her “crazy big brother,” after a conservatives’ hang last October at the White House.”
 
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mrorange211 said:
Or because the United States includes special education students in its PISA data whereas other countries do not. ALL of those top education systems completely segregate their special education students instead of incorporating them into the classroom as much as possible like the USA. American is the only top 20 public educational system that does this. These facts don't fit your narrative though.
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As a parent of a special needs student this is so stupid. My autistic son has to take the TN Ready tests. Why? It literally makes no sense to me although I’m sure it ties back to money. The teachers have a little leeway to how they administer the exams but not a ton.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
As a parent of a special needs student this is so stupid. My autistic son has to take the TN Ready tests. Why? It literally makes no sense to me although I’m sure it ties back to money. The teachers have a little leeway to how they administer the exams but not a ton.
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How much do you want to know? Since I'm not employed by a TN school system anymore, I can talk about the details without worrying about the Testing Gestapo coming after me.
 
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AshG said:
How much do you want to know? Since I'm not employed by a TN school system anymore, I can talk about the details without worrying about the Testing Gestapo coming after me.
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Whatever you feel like sharing Ash. Is there a legitimate reason to make a kid who scores in the 1 percentile on cognitive tests to take an aptitude test?
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Common Core BS under the No Child Left Behind Act needs to be removed, amended, something. The way they teach kids math in particular is super dumb. They will have math problems like 2 + 2 = ? and then they ask kids, explain how you got your answer. The first time I saw it I was like what the hell do they mean? You add two and two you dumb assess! I still don’t know exactly what they wanted and that’s just one example of many.
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Lol...I totally agree. I was trying to help my kid and she was like we didn't learn it like that.
 
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Biggest issue with CRT is that it isn't very academic or scientific, if at all. In fact, it teaches against some basic concepts of modernity that (at least to me) seem vital to scientific inquiry.

I do agree with teaching a broader, more contextualized history, not just from one perspective. I also agree in a few postmodernist concepts such as contextualization of literature, art, etc to better understand how these areas can be used in negative ways and have been used in negative ways in the past. As a broad example, I could see some teaching of Howard Zinn - to a slight degree - to show various perspectives that have largely been ignored in K-12 education, as it is not quite...favorable to traditional "rah rah" versions of our history...and we need those truths as well.

That said, CRT as an "academic field" is just...not that.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
What do you mean by critical race theory? I am all for examining policies, laws and issues to see if there is a racial component at play and rectifying to remove that component to level the playing field. I am not for implementing explicitly racist policies to tilt the playing field in the other direction. I am not in favor of the more radical aspects, but am in favor of examining our past with a more critical eye. We've got to do a better job, because POC have less education, less income, higher incarceration rates, less opportunity and are more dependent on the government than whites. Whatever system we have in place has failed miserably and it is time to look at it critically.

My own theory is that simply talking about the issues in an open honest way will lead to understanding and progress. This is not a problem that will be fixed overnight, but I know just from my own family dynamic... my parents are far less bigoted than their parents and I am far less bigoted than mine and my daughter has continued that trend.
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Where does personal responsibility come into play?
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Whatever you feel like sharing Ash. Is there a legitimate reason to make a kid who scores in the 1 percentile on cognitive tests to take an aptitude test?
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Wife just got home with dinner, so my answer right now is very short: Oh hell no. And the rules require students to be put in environments that are proven to cause anxiety and discomfort above and beyond the tests themselves; a situation that is heavily exacerbated for those with cognitive differences, challenges, or limitations.

I am a strong believer in the Testing Opt-Out movement.
 
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AshG said:
Also, the great misunderstanding that is not a theory that says "X happened and it's bad and your fault" but the fact that it's a lens through which to examine history. What's wrong with examining history? Is there a lump under the rug that people don't want found?
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Educate yourself a little bit.

Critical Race Theory: What It Is and How to Fight It

Critical race theory is teaching people to be racist. How is teaching, erroneously, that one race is superior to another based on false narratives a different lens in which to examine history?
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Rickles was hilarious. Red Foxx was a filthy mouthed hilarious dude too. At least we have their videos because no way the Karens could take that humor today.
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Race relations are I would say....80% political.. I went to MTSU for one year in 1984...The star running back from Americus GA was kicked off the team and got put into my room as a freshman my mid term. He was a hulk and a nice guy. He had nothing and iirc had like 6 siblings. I could crank my guitar as he was sleeping, and I asked him, does this bother you, and he said nahh, I grew up with all my loud siblings..LOL. I hope he made a life for himself.

There was no racism...This **** is made up minus a few locos.

Man I could give some anecdotes.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Educate yourself a little bit.

Critical Race Theory: What It Is and How to Fight It

Critical race theory is teaching people to be racist. How is teaching, erroneously, that one race is superior to another based on false narratives a different lens in which to examine history?
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So educate myself by reviewing information from a hyperpartisan private college that has a vested interest in promoting a specific interpretation. Hrm.

I think I'll stick to the universally academically accepted, decades old definition that doesn't have all of this new political baggage added to it.
 
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Furious Parents at Manhattan's $57K Spence School Demand it take 'a step backward' from its woke weaning agenda after Video Mocking 'annoying' and 'entitled' White Women was Shown to Kids

Parents at the posh $57K per year Spence School in Manhattan's Upper East Side neighborhood are starting a letter-writing campaign to demand the academy take a 'step backward' from its woke agenda.

A mother involved with the letter-writing campaign spoke anonymously with the New York Post after it was revealed that students at the all-girls school were shown a video mocking 'annoying' and 'entitled' white women.

'We will have our day. This is becoming a culture war,' the mom told the outlet. 'I guess that's what people want, instead of being truthful.'

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One parent, Gabriela Baron, who is Cuban American, was angered by the 'racism'

The mom told the New York Post that she recently pulled her daughter out of the school because she and her husband were 'feeling very disheartened and crestfallen over the curriculum echoing this sort of culture war even before George Floyd.'

'We felt it wasn't appropriate, that kind of beating up of the Western canon,' the woman said.

She added: 'I wish it were just isolated at Spence. We all know the 'wokeness' is so huge.'

Parents at Manhattan's $57K Spence School demand it take 'a step backward' from its woke agenda | Daily Mail Online
 
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