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Cut has done a good job at Duke, but Duke is no Tennessee. I like Cut but if Dooley is let go, with all the coaching turnover, wouldn't we need to get someone who would be at Tennessee for a long time? How many more years would Cut coach? Does he have the energy to get out there and recruit? The expectations at Tennessee are much higher than Duke. He can go 6-6 at Duke and they are happy. I'm not sure he would be interested if this job came up.
 
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BS. He had one bad season at Ole Miss, but had four bowl wins, and an over .500 record every season except his last one. Even with that one 4-7 season he still had a higher winning percentage than any coach since John Vaught (including Tubberville), and a much higher winning percentage than any of his successors.

Yep ...and when he came back for his 2nd tour at UT ...he brought the program from 5 wins to 9 -4 the very next season , to 10 -4 the next season ...and then he left and we were back to 5 wins again. He took Ainge from hopeless to very good.

Before Cut 5 wins ...After Cut 5 wins

Would be a good Coach
 
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Heard a bit of interesting info today. Now I don't pretend to be in any kind of loop, but a co-worker of mine 's family is good friends with the families of one of the Duke coaches.

Here is what I was told today. One of the offensive coaches was informed by Cutcliffe to be ready for a possible move to Knoxville. Cutcliffe does believe that Dooley won't be retained after the season. Additionally, he believes that he is A favorite for the job. He will accept if offered. He told the coach that he would bring him along to Knoxville to be the new OC. I really don't wanna reveal the coaches name but with enough digging, a fairly intelligent person can figure out who it is.

I know there will be haters and bashers. Feel free to flame away. I think you'll find that in my time here, I don't make this kind of post. Clearly, only time will tell, but I just wanted to pass along what I was told today.

I believe a special forum was set-up for these types of threads. There is no Football forum anymore,,, it is all about fire Dooley and hire Gruden.
 
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0-5 for a 4th straight year in the SEC? I'll pass on that and try any other option available

4 straight years? Isn't this Dooley's 2 2/3s mark? I get what your saying but you missed my point. If we have a sure fire guaranteed winner - hire him. If not, then in my little opinion we keep the coach we have. The only reason we are not at the top of the polls this year is, well, 10,000 other posters have said it, is because of our defense. I'm not offering excuses about our Defense. What I am offering is the fact that Coach Dooley fixed the glaring problem we had last year. The run game. With that stated, I have no doubt in my mind that when Dooley see's a problem that needs to be fixed, he corrects it.
 
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Cut has done a good job at Duke, but Duke is no Tennessee. I like Cut but if Dooley is let go, with all the coaching turnover, wouldn't we need to get someone who would be at Tennessee for a long time? How many more years would Cut coach? Does he have the energy to get out there and recruit? The expectations at Tennessee are much higher than Duke. He can go 6-6 at Duke and they are happy. I'm not sure he would be interested if this job came up.

You would not need to hire a coach for the next 10 years. At the very least you need one who can build up talent, coach up that talent and get us back to fighting for the SEC. Once that is done(2-4 years IMO) the job is alot more attractive to any coach considering a move. It's always best to have less turnover, but if a coach retires leaving the program a winner, it's alot easier to hire the next guy.
 
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I believe a special forum was set-up for these types of threads. There is no Football forum anymore,,, it is all about fire Dooley and hire Gruden.

point me to something interesting about football disregarding recruiting or coaches and ill read it
 
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Cut = 3* recruits mid pack SEC team

Gruden = 5* recruits Top tier SEC team

Maybe, maybe not. Cut did pretty well with 3 star recruits at Ole Miss. Ole Miss has never attracted the talent Tennessee has. Losing coach or not. I think Cut would have alot of 4-5 star talent signed if he coached here. He had a big part in recruiting alot of the talent for about 130 of Fulmers wins. Top offensive players especially would really look at Tennessee with Cut here.
 
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The irony in all this would be for UT to hire Cut to HC and Fulmer for OC..silly stuff.

Fulmer to coach the OL and be Recruiting Coordinator. 650,000.00/year. :)

Cut HC 2.25 million
Chavis DC 1.25 million
Fulmer OL 650,000
Martin WR 300,000
Graham RB 300,000
OC?? Who we got?

:eek:lol:

Dave Hart, your welcome.
 
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Cut, IMO, wouldn't be the 'sexy', big name hire UT fans are wanting.

It would be interesting to see what he could do in terms of developing TBray tho.

If he could convince Chavis to come back home, as an earlier poster suggested, I think it'd work...assuming Gruden doesn't want the job of course.
 
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Fulmer to coach the OL and be Recruiting Coordinator. 650,000.00/year. :)

Cut HC 2.25 million
Chavis DC 1.25 million
Fulmer OL 650,000
Martin WR 300,000
Graham RB 300,000
OC?? Who we got?

:eek:lol:

Dave Hart, your welcome.

The Stanford run game coordinator. Cut would call his own plays. Overshadowed by Cut's success with the QB's is the fact that we were a power running team when he was OC. And a VERY good one at that. I like your whole staff minus PF.
 
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The Stanford run game coordinator. Cut would call his own plays. Overshadowed by Cut's success with the QB's is the fact that we were a power running team when he was OC. And a VERY good one at that. I like your whole staff minus PF.

Fulmer is a hell of an OL coach. I get people don't like him as a HC. I miss the days of mashing people. With paying Cut just 2.25 million, we could go to 1.25 for an OC. Very few in college football make over 1 million. ALOT of options IMO.
 
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He was offered the job after Kiffin left, but Hamilton would not allow him to bring his assistant coaches.

That's how I remember it, but it sounds ludicrous now. Why wouldn't Cut be given the discretion to hire the staff of his choice? Isn't that part of the job description as HC?
 
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That's how I remember it, but it sounds ludicrous now. Why wouldn't Cut be given the discretion to hire the staff of his choice? Isn't that part of the job description as HC?

Hamilton was trying to save buyout money. You will note CJC was retained from Kiffys staff. He would have been a costly one IF he had to be bought out.
 
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Fulmer is a hell of an OL coach. I get people don't like him as a HC. I miss the days of mashing people. With paying Cut just 2.25 million, we could go to 1.25 for an OC. Very few in college football make over 1 million. ALOT of options IMO.

I think he's a fantastic OL coach. I just don't think he could get by without meddling in the Head Coaching affairs. If he could accept the new position I would be ecstatic to have him.
 
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Fulmer is a hell of an OL coach. I get people don't like him as a HC. I miss the days of mashing people. With paying Cut just 2.25 million, we could go to 1.25 for an OC. Very few in college football make over 1 million. ALOT of options IMO.

Fulmer was a very good OL coach.
He was also a very good HC for several years.

I like Cut. He would be a good HC but he is not a splash hire. If TN makes a change, I think it needs to be a big name that will bring excitement to the program and make the top recruits want to play for the Vols. I don't think Cut would bring excitement.
 
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Fulmer was a very good OL coach.
He was also a very good HC for several years.

I like Cut. He would be a good HC but he is not a splash hire. If TN makes a change, I think it needs to be a big name that will bring excitement to the program and make the top recruits play for the Vols. I don't think Cut would bring excitement.

You nay be right. I know for me, change is what I am looking for. I will be excited no matter who the HC is as long as it's not Dooley. The simple idea of winnning again will have me fired up for 2013. Cut has a long history of producing top offenses. Offensive players/recruits would realize that. He would need to hire a top DC to attract the defensive kids. I think it would be a very good option IF Gruden, Peterson, Patterson said no. This option would also enable us to afford a killer staff, not just the highest paid coach in college football. Just how much would Hart allow Gruden to spend on assistants? Highest paid coach, OC, DC?? I am not so sure.
 
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Fulmer was a very good OL coach.
He was also a very good HC for several years.

I like Cut. He would be a good HC but he is not a splash hire. If TN makes a change, I think it needs to be a big name that will bring excitement to the program and make the top recruits want to play for the Vols. I don't think Cut would bring excitement.

fulmer was a fail at head coach in everything but recruiting

for some reason single moms like him
 

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