Da Reds thread

#10,904
#10,904
I brought out the trollers. lol. Funny to listen to their rationalizations. Zero knowledge of what they talk about - just spouting what they hear or see on a stat. Of course you could keep the same .500 Deads and pay out the $30+ M more in payroll each season until you go bankrupt from a lack of ticket sales - then you won't need a ball park at all will you trollers?! lol. That's what a lot of them would love. Let's just move the franchise to Nashville or Charlotte. Would be closer to east TN.

The Buck Sucker really showed his mettle today is striking out 3 straight times to Tyson Ross. But he worked his BB for the game in the 8th against the reliever Vincent. Did you notice that the sub .200 average Padre second baseman Gyorko has 4 more RBI's than BS? Way to go BS!
 
#10,911
#10,911
Johnny Cueto becomes the first pitcher with nine straight starts of seven innings and two runs allowed or fewer to begin a season since Harry Krause in 1909.
 
#10,912
#10,912
Afanstake said:
Lol at the thought that sitting the player with the second highest wrc+ on the team would help the team.
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lol at the thought that the Buck Sucker is sitting out as the team wins on the road without his presence. lol that Mesoraco has more RBIs in 26 less games played. lol that even Cozart is within one RBI in 4 less games. lol that Frazier has scored more runs despite the OBP king's lofty status and 17 more plate appearances. lol that BS ranks 7th on his own team in BA. Which goes to the point that your Sabermetrics is not working.

$20+ million a season. Yep - real value.
 
#10,913
#10,913
Yankee_Vol said:
Johnny Cueto becomes the first pitcher with nine straight starts of seven innings and two runs allowed or fewer to begin a season since Harry Krause in 1909.
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Cueto is just having a monster year. He and Pena have something special - great trust. Johnny showed up in shape for ST the first time. Modified his wind-up/delivery some to help the strain he was putting on his oblique. The action on his fastball has been amazing.

Starting pitching has been the only thing that has kept them near .500 so far. Hope the bats wake up soon.
 
#10,914
#10,914
Vols4us said:
lol at the thought that the Buck Sucker is sitting out as the team wins on the road without his presence. lol that Mesoraco has more RBIs in 26 less games played. lol that even Cozart is within one RBI in 4 less games. lol that Frazier has scored more runs despite the OBP king's lofty status and 17 more plate appearances. lol that BS ranks 7th on his own team in BA. Which goes to the point that your Sabermetrics is not working.

$20+ million a season. Yep - real value.
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You conveniently forgot to mention that Votto has been injured the last couple weeks. Which, just so happens to coincide with his dip.
 
#10,915
#10,915
Should be out of the race for even a wild card by the end of the month without a drastic turnaround in hitting from somebody. On the road with the Nats, home with the Cards, on the road again with the Dodgers and D-backs coming up. Maybe the Buck Sucker and Bruce will come back soon and get hot at the same time. BS could get a record number of walks and Bruce go on one of his HR streaks.

Some really clueless managing of a roster going on from the front office to Price. Had enough of this for awhile.
 
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Scotty's Flat Top said:
You conveniently forgot to mention that Votto has been injured the last couple weeks. Which, just so happens to coincide with his dip.
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most reds fans agree with vols4us on this scotty. i want votto moved just to get his contract off the books. he is in no way worth the money they are giving him. by the way most of us reds fans said this would happen and we would be a .500 or below team all season and most of you braves fans laughed. just shows we know are team and probably yours better than you do.
 
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Vols4us said:
Should be out of the race for even a wild card by the end of the month without a drastic turnaround in hitting from somebody. On the road with the Nats, home with the Cards, on the road again with the Dodgers and D-backs coming up. Maybe the Buck Sucker and Bruce will come back soon and get hot at the same time. BS could get a record number of walks and Bruce go on one of his HR streaks.

Some really clueless managing of a roster going on from the front office to Price. Had enough of this for awhile.
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i've already made my decision on price. i want gibby out in zona. should see if we can make a trade price and votto for gibby straight up.lol
 
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005 said:
i sort of wonder why you watch baseball
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only thing it does is irritate me anymore. we were so close to being a contender and stupid signings just destroyed the team. i just don't understand how a guy like jocketty didn't see this coming. he will probably give chappy 15 mil a year to be an average closer. our crowds are shrinking by the game maybe that will be enough for bobby to can jock. well at least there are plenty of walleye in the lake to go catch.
 
#10,922
#10,922
Another different line up tonight while they still are one man short of the 25 with no decision on what they are going to do. Add in going from a guy that used the same line up all of the time to a guy that never uses the same one twice.

The Nats fans were actually chanting for Hoover to pitch last night and he almost did the job for them when he did.

Votto - 39 games
.257/.410/.447 - 35 Hits, 6 HRs, 19 runs, 12 RBIs, 33 BBs, 31 SOs

Frazier - 42 games
.268/.337/.490 - 42 hits, 8 HRs, 23 Runs, 23 RBIs, 13 BBs, 31 SOs

One makes $20+ M; the other makes $600 K - and we obviously know which gets the big bucks. His face is on the posters and his foundation is advertised during the games on TV. One tries to hit the ball according to the situation. The other tries to get on base. Whether he blames it all on his knee or whatever - it does not change the facts as they are. Which one is the best value? Which one plays better defense at his position? Which one is better on the base paths? Which one is willing to play whatever position they ask him to play (like tonight)?

Frazier is trending up. Votto is trending down. So what does that tell you about where the club is headed when the $20 M guy hamstrings the ability to build an improved roster? Then add in the Homer, Bruce and BP contracts. There is trouble brewing in the Queen City.
 
#10,924
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#10,925
#10,925
Fahr Votto, Price, BP, Homer, Chapman, Jocketty....F it, fahr 'em all!!

champy, I'd love to hear why you think Chapman blows; or were you just being emotional?

It's been a rough start to the season. I think they'll turn it around. We've had Latos on the DL all season, due back in a couple weeks or less. Plus we've had Bruce, Chapman, Cingrani and Mesoraco with a stint on the DL and while not on the DL, Votto has been injured and missed time as well.

I somewhat agree on Votto though. A $20+ million guy should have more for us to brag on than his OBP. I have loved him over the years but would not be upset if they moved him.
 
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