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#11,102
volatil said:
Just got a text from ESPN "Votto still experiencing discomfort"
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Yep - Sheldon's blog pretty well laid it out. He's had the PRP treatments and did the normal S&C rehab. Now he is in sport specific and he is having pain during lateral movement. The docs are monitoring, but he may be headed back to the previous therapy and being shut down for the season.

Folks don't want to face it, but it's been over two years now and he hasn't been anywhere near 100%. 2015 will be a make or break year for JV. He changed to counter punching and OBP last season and got through it. But it is clearly worse now that the quad can't cover and is a major part of the leg weakness.
 
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champyvol said:
haha the clueless idiots must want to lose more games.lol. i really think this coaching staff is even worse than bob boone's that is saying a lot. oh well its football season anyway. did anybody see the votto interview with jim day, i think it was like 2 or 3 days ago. i hope he never comes back. hard to like a guy like that.
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That interview PO'd much of the fan base from what I saw on the boards and blogs. You would expect that out of a surly guy named Bonds. Face of the franchise is a pr--k.
 
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Whoops, 18-34 now. Forgot to update. Getting mowed down by journeyman O's pitcher Gonzalez that tops out at 91 mph. 1 hit in 7 so far. Impressive. But Bruce got a slam last night in the one run loss. Of course he is hitting .218 and swings at anything. Eventually he had to make contact given enough ABs.
 
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#11,111
champyvol said:
broxton shipped to the brewers. go vols.
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One down and about a dozen to go. lol. That cleared some payroll room since the Brew Crew picked up the whole tab. Looks like they are still looking to possibly move Latos and Leake in the off season. I wish they would keep Leake and move Simon instead. They must feel they will get more for Leake. If they do that they plan on trying to sign Cueto since he is a FA for next season.
 
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#11,112
Anybody that read this owes it to themselves to look at Reds line-up for this evening's game. If you can identify 5 or more names you win some Skyline Chili. Wow - the depths this club has sunk to is amazing.
 
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#11,113
Vols4us said:
Anybody that read this owes it to themselves to look at Reds line-up for this evening's game. If you can identify 5 or more names you win some Skyline Chili. Wow - the depths this club has sunk to is amazing.
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haha AV though says we are going to be just fine.lol. at least we have chili
 
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#11,114
champyvol said:
haha AV though says we are going to be just fine.lol. at least we have chili
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Bengals and Skyline time. lol.

I am reading that they are going to do everything they can to sign Cueto. They are going to keep Simon as a starter plus Bailey. That means Latos and Leake are likely to be trade bait . I thought it was telling they had them on the waiver wire. Must have received the feedback they wanted for off season trades. So that means Cingrani back as a starter and one other from the farm whether it is Stephenson (too soon) or somebody else - unless they only move one of Latos/Leake.

Hope they get a strong bat, because they are already beating the drum for Votto's triumphant return to glory. Negron will definitely be on the active as will Pena. So, in essence they are standing pat with the exception of what they get to shore things up by trading Latos and/or Leake.

Surprised? Didn't think so. Walt will be back. Same old same old.
 
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Vols4us said:
Bengals and Skyline time. lol.

I am reading that they are going to do everything they can to sign Cueto. They are going to keep Simon as a starter plus Bailey. That means Latos and Leake are likely to be trade bait . I thought it was telling they had them on the waiver wire. Must have received the feedback they wanted for off season trades. So that means Cingrani back as a starter and one other from the farm whether it is Stephenson (too soon) or somebody else - unless they only move one of Latos/Leake.

Hope they get a strong bat, because they are already beating the drum for Votto's triumphant return to glory. Negron will definitely be on the active as will Pena. So, in essence they are standing pat with the exception of what they get to shore things up by trading Latos and/or Leake.

Surprised? Didn't think so. Walt will be back. Same old same old.
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i won't watch baseball next year.
 
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#11,116
champyvol said:
i won't watch baseball next year.
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I only watch it when it is this bad because I get bored in the summer. Used to go to the local Cubs affiliate AA games instead, but when the grandson came along we have been sitting with him while the daughter/son-in-law work until he gets old enough to take.

This club has a great shot to break the MLB record for most 1 run losses in a season. I think I read it is 44 games and I think our guys are at around 38. 14th shut out last night. Nah, sit pat Walter. All will be fine. lol.

Amazing how all the stats guys and trolls disappear when the are proved wrong. lol.
 
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Vols4us said:
I only watch it when it is this bad because I get bored in the summer. Used to go to the local Cubs affiliate AA games instead, but when the grandson came along we have been sitting with him while the daughter/son-in-law work until he gets old enough to take.

This club has a great shot to break the MLB record for most 1 run losses in a season. I think I read it is 44 games and I think our guys are at around 38. 14th shut out last night. Nah, sit pat Walter. All will be fine. lol.

Amazing how all the stats guys and trolls disappear when the are proved wrong. lol.
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i go fishing. the trolls showed there true colors. the reds are on there way to the playoffs.lol at least the braves look like they won't make it to. that makes me feel a little better.lol
 
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005 said:
They started winning as soon as that bum Votto wasn't involved.
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yep that 260 with 6 homers sure would have won us at least 30 more games. lol. reds fans knew or should have known we were doomed from the start this year. what we didn't know was price is the worst manager in baseball.
 
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champyvol said:
yep that 260 with 6 homers sure would have won us at least 30 more games. lol. reds fans knew or should have known we were doomed from the start this year. what we didn't know was price is the worst manager in baseball.
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They don't pay attention to what actually happens. They look a box scores and stats data. Even some key stats they don't look at - like how many losses by one run did they have in the games that Votto started? They never talk about his RISP w/2 outs, his incompetency on the base paths, his mediocre to lousy D, etc. The only guy on the team that will have a long conversation with him is Bruce, and we see how that worked out as he challenges the Mendoza line.

It was Price and his coaching staff that tanked the season worse than it should have been. Third base coach Smith leads MLB by a ton with 25 runners being thrown out at home this season. But Price stands by his guy - a coach that had been out of baseball for 3 years. 125+ different starting line-ups. Batting a .215 hitter clean-up much of the season, with over half of his AB's being SO's or pop ups. Using Hoover and Ondrusek over and over while losing games. And they will be DOA next season for the same reason that both Jock and Price will be back.
 
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zjcvols said:
Wait what were we proven wrong about?
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Everything Reds as it pertains to actual baseball. Go back to your data and Fredi's team. They need your help if they are going to get that last spot. The offer still stands - Votto for Freeman straight up.
 
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Vols4us said:
They don't pay attention to what actually happens. They look a box scores and stats data. Even some key stats they don't look at - like how many losses by one run did they have in the games that Votto started? They never talk about his RISP w/2 outs, his incompetency on the base paths, his mediocre to lousy D, etc. The only guy on the team that will have a long conversation with him is Bruce, and we see how that worked out as he challenges the Mendoza line.

It was Price and his coaching staff that tanked the season worse than it should have been. Third base coach Smith leads MLB by a ton with 25 runners being thrown out at home this season. But Price stands by his guy - a coach that had been out of baseball for 3 years. 125+ different starting line-ups. Batting a .215 hitter clean-up much of the season, with over half of his AB's being SO's or pop ups. Using Hoover and Ondrusek over and over while losing games. And they will be DOA next season for the same reason that both Jock and Price will be back.
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Like how he bats .334/.477/.578!slash line for his career with RISP? You mean the fact he played 162 games last year? Please. You guys look for a scapegoat and use him because it's easy and controversial. Poor dude plays 62 games on a bum knee and you blame him for the season.

This is more to champy than you. Your manager does seem bad in games I've watched. You guys had a bad year, but you've won the division two out of four years and playoffs three out of four. Your management team is solid. You aren't the Padres.
 
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zjcvols said:
Like how he bats .334/.477/.578!slash line for his career with RISP? You mean the fact he played 162 games last year? Please. You guys look for a scapegoat and use him because it's easy and controversial. Poor dude plays 62 games on a bum knee and you blame him for the season.

This is more to champy than you. Your manager does seem bad in games I've watched. You guys had a bad year, but you've won the division two out of four years and playoffs three out of four. Your management team is solid. You aren't the Padres.
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playoffs are done bro for years to come. it is the cards and bucs division now. votto is getting paid mega money to produce and it looks like he will be no better than an average player for now on. he will be a lot of the reason we won't make the playoffs for the simple reason we can't sign anybody else. price on the other hand if handed the 62 yanks would find a way to screw it up. that being said with jock still running the show we missed our chance to make a good run at the series. we are on the padres level now. not much hope because of poor choices. we will have to rely on prospects.
 
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