Da Reds thread

#11,426
#11,426
well the only sunlight on a dismal year. congrats to frazier on the derby win. give us reds fans at least something to watch. now time to trade half the team. hopefully fire jock and price.
 
#11,427
#11,427
champyvol said:
well the only sunlight on a dismal year. congrats to frazier on the derby win. give us reds fans at least something to watch. now time to trade half the team. hopefully fire jock and price.
Click to expand...

Frazier is the face of what team is left - yet - he makes less even after his new contract this season than Bruce, Gomer, Johnny, Leake, BP, Chappy, Byrd and the $20 M man. If anybody deserved the long term, high dollar deal it is the Toddfather. Lunch pail kind of guy that will not let the fame and money change him. Nah - they would rather lose him in a couple of years.

Bob/Walter resemble Obama and his cronies. They just can't help but consistently do the wrong thing at the wrong time. Odds are high they will find a way to mess this up.
 
#11,428
#11,428
Haven't looked recently... are Frazier's offensive numbers that much better than Votto's this year?
 
#11,432
#11,432
The Derby was great. The new format was pretty intriguing and Frazier just has a flair for the dramatic.

Frazier's numbers are considerably better than Votto's. Slightly higher AVG, 10 more HR, 12 more R, 15 more RBI, 3 more SB, 100 points higher SLG and Frazier is a better defensive player. Votto leads in OBP by 55 points. Votto has had a solid year, but his numbers are more similar to Bruce's than Frazier's.

Honestly, I think we should trade Frazier right now. He was a late bloomer and is already 29 years old. Sell high imo. If they start a rebuild now and he only has 3-5 good years left then he won't benefit the team when the success "should" occur. His value probably won't be any higher than it is at this time.

I say trade anyone and everyone they can. And please, please, please go find a good GM and manager.
 
#11,440
#11,440
Appalachiamuck said:
The Derby was great. The new format was pretty intriguing and Frazier just has a flair for the dramatic.

Frazier's numbers are considerably better than Votto's. Slightly higher AVG, 10 more HR, 12 more R, 15 more RBI, 3 more SB, 100 points higher SLG and Frazier is a better defensive player. Votto leads in OBP by 55 points. Votto has had a solid year, but his numbers are more similar to Bruce's than Frazier's.

Honestly, I think we should trade Frazier right now. He was a late bloomer and is already 29 years old. Sell high imo. If they start a rebuild now and he only has 3-5 good years left then he won't benefit the team when the success "should" occur. His value probably won't be any higher than it is at this time.

I say trade anyone and everyone they can. And please, please, please go find a good GM and manager.
Click to expand...
I can't see why they would trade Frazier. Underpaid and overachieves. I could see trading guys like Cueto, Leake, Bruce, and even Chapman. Those guys make serious bank.
 
#11,441
#11,441
005 said:
How did you get "closer to Bruce's" from that?
Click to expand...
HR, R, RBI, SB and SLG?

volatil said:
I can't see why they would trade Frazier. Underpaid and overachieves. I could see trading guys like Cueto, Leake, Bruce, and even Chapman. Those guys make serious bank.
Click to expand...
I'm not real sure what qualifies as good trade material, but I would think trading a player who is at his peak production and value would give us the greatest return. That is, if we're going to go for a complete rebuild. If not, then hang on to him.
 
Last edited:
#11,445
#11,445
#11,446
#11,446
@ESPNStatsInfo: Joey Votto has reached base 9 times today

1st player to reach base 9 times in a day since Robinson Cano in 2010

via @EliasSports

Joe Votto sucks
 
#11,448
#11,448
Mark Sheldon ‏@m_sheldon 22m22 minutes ago
Jocketty has green light to make trades but says #reds won't "give away players." Reds to be patient as Trade Deadline nears | reds.com



FOX Sports: MLBVerified account
‏@MLBONFOX
Plenty of contenders could use Johnny Cueto, but #Royals have the biggest need to acquire #Reds' ace

@DCameronFG: No contender needs Johnny Cueto more than Kansas City Royals | FOX Sports


Jim Bowden ‏@JimBowden_ESPN 27m27 minutes ago
Royals&Blue Jays are all “in” on Cueto willing to move top prospect for rental, realizing value much higher than Kazmir..both need Game 1 P
 
#11,449
#11,449
Jerry Crasnick ‏@jcrasnick 26m26 minutes ago
One other thing: Mat Latos wore out his welcome with #reds. From everything I've heard, it's been the same story with #marlins.
 
#11,450
#11,450
Jayson Stark @jaysonst

Asked exec of team shopping for bats how willing the #Reds are to deal Jay Bruce. He said: "They're willing to save money. Period"
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top