DC Black Hawk vs Plane crash, Philly Crash. Malicious, or incompotence?

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Grand Vol said:
Maybe because he's not as good as you think he is? Okay, he wasn't a complete disaster, but he's not much better than "lackluster" in any objective grading.

And as I said before, the bar was petty low in that seat. Nobody has excelled.
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I also edited to recognize Grenell's work in Venezuela. To be transparent, I didn't realize it was him who negotiated their release.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Maybe because he's not as good as you think he is? Okay, he wasn't a complete disaster, but he's not much better than "lackluster" in any objective grading.

And as I said before, the bar was petty low in that seat. Nobody has excelled.
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Fair, but I would never have mentioned him if he wasn't blamed for the accident.
 
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hog88 said:
Is that fact or Luther's interpretation?
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DEI for people with connections is basically someone being a legacy or having a connection like how McCain got into the Naval Academy. I believe Bush was also a Legacy decision at Yale, average HS student and got into an IVY league school. This has been going on forever, I hate to think some kid with a disability isn't going to get a job bagging groceries or working at McDonalds now.
 
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BeardedVol said:
I don't have strong feelings towards him one way or the other, but what I don't understand is that if your primary argument against him is that he wasn't qualified to be in the position, then I don't know how you can honestly support Sean Duffy being the person to replace him, other than saying "well it was my guy that picked him".
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You could add Pete Hegseth into that mix as well... which is pretty much the main drawback I have with him.

But on that token, Pete is a politician, though only at the local level until being put into that position. So, saying he wasn't "qualified" to run a federal level department is accurate. Just as accurate as saying it about Duffy.

Main difference is, Duffy at least had Congressional experience. Neither one had Cabinet "experience" to run the Department, though Pete had less federal level exposure.

It's not slander to say someone was unqualified to be considered. But certainly something of note.
 
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Grand Vol said:
You could add Pete Hegseth into that mix as well... which is pretty much the main drawback I have with him.

But on that token, Pete is a politician, though only at the local level until being put into that position. So, saying he wasn't "qualified" to run a federal level department is accurate. Just as accurate as saying it about Duffy.

Main difference is, Duffy at least had Congressional experience. Neither one had Cabinet "experience" to run the Department, though Pete had less federal level exposure.

It's not slander to say someone was unqualified to be considered. But certainly something of note.
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From an organizational leadership standpoint alone, Buttigieg has more experience than either Duffy or Hegseth, given that he served two terms as mayor of a city with a $400+ million/year budget, and a 1,000+ employees.

With those qualification, and the reality who has served as the secretary of transportation under previous administrations, it's still hard to call him "unqualified" without first providing a defined set or requirements for the position.
 
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gcbvol said:
If we're speaking honestly they're all appointed based on relationships with the new administrations. Likely very few are truly 'qualified.'
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I would agree, and I'd say as a position, the secretary of transportation has had a smorgasbord of people with almost no real background that one would think is applicable to the position, beyond managing people and budgets.

In looking through all the people that held it, Mary Peters seems to be the only person to hold the position, that actually had experience working for a state department of transportation.
 
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BeardedVol said:
I would agree, and I'd say as a position, the secretary of transportation has had a smorgasbord of people with almost no real background that one would think is applicable to the position, beyond managing people and budgets.

In looking through all the people that held it, Mary Peters seems to be the only person to hold the position, that actually had experience working for a state department of transportation.
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Good on W!
 
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gcbvol said:
If we're speaking honestly they're all appointed based on relationships with the new administrations. Likely very few are truly 'qualified.'
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I will say this about that without too much thread drift...

That was what intrigued me about Hegseth. You likely couldn't find a more "unqualified" candidate for the position.

Having said that to say this, he hasn't worked in the defense industry (not like many) and isn't a career flag rank politician like many that served before him.

He's a whole new animal in the position and something we haven't tried before. Knowing that, he's not beholden to Boeing or Sig Sauer or Raytheon. And it's starting off with a "clean sheet" so to speak.

It'll be interesting to see how the DoD progresses under his leadership.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I will say this about that without too much thread drift...

That was what intrigued me about Hegseth. You likely couldn't find a more "unqualified" candidate for the position.

Having said that to say this, he hasn't worked in the defense industry (not like many) and isn't a career flag rank politician like many that served before him.

He's a whole new animal in the position and something we haven't tried before. Knowing that, he's not beholden to Boeing or Sig Sauer or Raytheon. And it's starting off with a "clean sheet" so to speak.

It'll be interesting to see how the DoD progresses under his leadership.
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I get what you're saying, and agree. Sometimes someone coming in with a clean, fresh perspective is a really good thing. It's wait and see.
 
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gcbvol said:
I get what you're saying, and agree. Sometimes someone coming in with a clean, fresh perspective is a really good thing. It's wait and see.
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Normally I would agree as well but not this position in this climate. I'd rather have someone who actually has experience and knows the ropes. It's a huge risk.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I can't help but get the feeling that Trump isn't finished blaming DEI for various, tragic, losses of life. Donny loves to play the blame game .... even while bodies are still being counted.
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Unfortunately, this is true. Hell, he still mentions the 2020 election loss to Biden.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Normally I would agree as well but not this position in this climate. I'd rather have someone who actually has experience and knows the ropes. It's a huge risk.
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I've always felt Trump is a high risk/high reward type POTUS. He can do really good things and/or really bad things. Appointments are a part of that. He's quite atypical, which is a big reason he's been elected twice. I am hopeful America gets more good than bad. We'll see.

I will say I LOVE his Chief of Staff. Wiles is badass.
 
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