Debate thread

[LSU-SIU]

Luther is already on record that he should be 25th’d.

@luthervol - still feel the same way?

All the bots are now malfunctioning, they haven't received the next command from the mother ship.

"Against protocol ....cannnn'tttt.... thinkkkk on my own"

They probably have a few weeks to convince Sundowner Joe and the Hooker to get onboard or else full reversal.

 

[LouderVol]

Other than the porn star things, what did Trump lie about?

fixing the debt. getting mexico to pay for the wall. no terrorist attacks when he was president. removing obamacare. getting NATO to pay their fair share. draining the swamp. locking up Hillary. all just off the top of my head.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

fixing the debt. getting mexico to pay for the wall. no terrorist attacks when he was president. removing obamacare. getting NATO to pay their fair share. draining the swamp. locking up Hillary. all just off the top of my head.

I think he was specifically talking about the debate, but the list of lies is pretty long there too.

 

[LouderVol]

I think he was specifically talking about the debate, but the list of lies is pretty long there too.

1. every legal scholar wanted Roe v Wade overturned.
2. no terror attacks during his presidency
3. iran wasn't funding terrorism under his watch
4. He provided more aid to Ukraine than Europe has
5. Biden will quadrupple everyone's taxees
6. that Americans don't see any price increases from his tariffs on China or others. while he also pointed to Biden's tariffs as contributing to increased costs, not sure how that works.
7. He claims responsibility for the Veterans Choice program signed by Obama in 2014.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

1. every legal scholar wanted Roe v Wade overturned.
2. no terror attacks during his presidency
3. iran wasn't funding terrorism under his watch
4. He provided more aid to Ukraine than Europe has
5. Biden will quadrupple everyone's taxees
6. that Americans don't see any price increases from his tariffs on China or others. while he also pointed to Biden's tariffs as contributing to increased costs, not sure how that works.
7. He claims responsibility for the Veterans Choice program signed by Obama in 2014.

The man lies by default. If he was only yawning, or eating, the fact his mouth opens, lies will exit his maw. I wish it wasn't so, but it is.

 

[Sea Ray]

1. every legal scholar wanted Roe v Wade overturned.
2. no terror attacks during his presidency
3. iran wasn't funding terrorism under his watch
4. He provided more aid to Ukraine than Europe has
5. Biden will quadrupple everyone's taxees
6. that Americans don't see any price increases from his tariffs on China or others. while he also pointed to Biden's tariffs as contributing to increased costs, not sure how that works.
7. He claims responsibility for the Veterans Choice program signed by Obama in 2014.

Here's the thing, these aren't lies if Trump really believes it's true and I think he does. In order to get around that, I think a better term to use is untruths or false facts. No question Trump doesn't have a grasp of the facts but he never has

 

[volbound1700]

Here's the thing, these aren't lies if Trump really believes it's true and I think he does. In order to get around that, I think a better term to use is untruths or false facts. No question Trump doesn't have a grasp of the facts but he never has

You could say the same thing about Biden as well.

 

[Sea Ray]

You could say the same thing about Biden as well.

That he really believes what he says or that he doesn't have a grasp of the facts? I would say that neither guy blatantly lies very often. Trump really believes the 2020 election was stolen from him

 

[volbound1700]

That he really believes what he says or that he doesn't have a grasp of the facts? I would say that neither guy blatantly lies very often. Trump really believes the 2020 election was stolen from him

Biden doesn't really lie, he just doesn't grasp the facts.

 

[hog88]

fixing the debt. getting mexico to pay for the wall. no terrorist attacks when he was president. removing obamacare. getting NATO to pay their fair share. draining the swamp. locking up Hillary. all just off the top of my head.

During the debate?

 

[luthervol]

Luther is already on record that he should be 25th’d.

@luthervol - still feel the same way?

Yep - but it's a little late now.
Make the case that if he runs and wins - he will immediately face the 25th.

 

[McDad]

Yep - but it's a little late now.
Make the case that if he runs and wins - he will immediately face the 25th.

Make the case that the VP will assume the presidency if he wins reelection?

 

[EasternVol]

While I dislike her so much I intend to mark her passing with champagne , I have always thought she is very sharp mentally. Her decline seemed obvious in that interview.

She may have just been hammered.

 

[EasternVol]

1. every legal scholar wanted Roe v Wade overturned.
2. no terror attacks during his presidency
3. iran wasn't funding terrorism under his watch
4. He provided more aid to Ukraine than Europe has
5. Biden will quadrupple everyone's taxees
6. that Americans don't see any price increases from his tariffs on China or others. while he also pointed to Biden's tariffs as contributing to increased costs, not sure how that works.
7. He claims responsibility for the Veterans Choice program signed by Obama in 2014.

He went on about Democrats wanting post delivery abortions too.

 

[volinbham]

Yep - but it's a little late now.
Make the case that if he runs and wins - he will immediately face the 25th.

if this is the case why shouldn't he be removed now? it's not too late

 

[EasternVol]

Here's the thing, these aren't lies if Trump really believes it's true and I think he does. In order to get around that, I think a better term to use is untruths or false facts. No question Trump doesn't have a grasp of the facts but he never has

Facts are reality so if Trump doesn't have a grasp there is he insane?

 

[McDad]

Yep - but it's a little late now.
Make the case that if he runs and wins - he will immediately face the 25th.

You liked my question but I'm not sure if you agree or something else.

If Biden wins to simply step aside, why not just run Kamala straight up?

 

[EasternVol]

That he really believes what he says or that he doesn't have a grasp of the facts? I would say that neither guy blatantly lies very often. Trump really believes the 2020 election was stolen from him

Both of them blatantly lie very often.

 

[volinbham]

Both of them blatantly lie very often.

agree - it's why I find the argument that one is a liar so weird.

it's like when Alabama fans call Tennessee fans rednecks

 

[EasternVol]

if this is the case why shouldn't he be removed now? it's not too late

Because that means President Harris. Her most coherent moments don't meet the measure for intelligence.

 

[McDad]

if this is the case why shouldn't he be removed now? it's not too late

I admit, I don't get that reasoning either. It may be late in the political game but no one can predict what events are right around the corner. the question is do you want a mentally incompetent president dealing with those potentials?

 

[LSU-SIU]

You liked my question but I'm not sure if you agree or something else.

If Biden wins to simply step aside, why not just run Kamala straight up?

Basically, he is saying lets commit fraud and perform a coup. If he is not fit under the 25th, they should move immediately on that - you don't use it as ploy.

 

[McDad]

Because that means President Harris.

Is a fully capacitated Harris worse than a mentally incapacitated Biden?

 

[EasternVol]

Is a fully capacitated Harris worse than a mentally incapacitated Biden?

It's close.

 

[luthervol]

if this is the case why shouldn't he be removed now? it's not too late

I have no problem with that.