Derek Chauvin trial

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Tastylicks said:
I think the biggest problem is that cops are scared of black people. When they talk about "systemic racism" thats one facet of it. I'm not completely sure its racist in nature but I suppose it is as they don't appear to be as scared of white people. Not every type of racism is a guy spouting the N-word, I wish it was that easy. But its not, it can be underlying and not even intentional.
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With George Floyd, the dude was all messed up and handcuffed and yet they were still scared of him. The murderer cop in Dallas, she freaked out at the sight of a black guy in his kitchen. Philando Castile, same thing. Guy had his kids in the car and they were scared of him.

They get scared and they shoot. Gotta stop with that
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Young black males are less than 5% of the population but they commit over half of the homicides. There's a reason police are nervous around them
 
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PointGuard said:
Well ok then it is not 7:1 whites to black. It is 12.5% blacks or stated a different way 8:1 whites

Thanks for the clarification

Which makes the ratio of “excess force” against blacks even more egregious.
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I guess it’s hard for you to read numeric charts
 
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PointGuard said:
Well ok then it is not 7:1 whites to black. It is 12.5% blacks or stated a different way 8:1 whites

Thanks for the clarification

Which makes the ratio of “excess force” against blacks even more egregious.
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If we gather 100 people in a room, of which 60 are white and 12 are black, does that mean there is 1 black person for every 8 white persons to you?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Since 2019, the same number of unarmed black Americans have been killed by police as unarmed white Americans. That does mean that unarmed blacks are five times more likely to be killed by the police as unarmed whites in the United States.

And can anyone cite an example of a completely innocent, unarmed white person with no prior criminal record or outstanding warrants for their arrest being killed by a police officer in their own place of residence while minding their own business, which is in any way comparable to what happened to Botham Jean in Dallas, Texas? No. I didn't think so.
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except that one case had NOTHING to do with the officer being on duty or answering a call for service
 
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Sea Ray said:
Young black males are less than 5% of the population but they commit over half of the homicides. There's a reason police are nervous around them
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Micro-racism, the only reason they commit 50% of the homicides is because they are being framed by the white males who are really committing the murders. The straight, white males of the nation get together in a dark, smoke filled room along with all the police commissioners and plot which black males they are going to unjustly charge and if lucky shoot during arrest.
 
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PointGuard said:
Well ok then it is not 7:1 whites to black. It is 12.5% blacks or stated a different way 8:1 whites

Thanks for the clarification

Which makes the ratio of “excess force” against blacks even more egregious.
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Excess force is defined as what in your opinion? less than 5% of ALL police force is deemed unjustified or illegal so your definitions are quite skewed
 
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Tastylicks said:
I think the biggest problem is that cops are scared of black people. When they talk about "systemic racism" thats one facet of it. I'm not completely sure its racist in nature but I suppose it is as they don't appear to be as scared of white people. Not every type of racism is a guy spouting the N-word, I wish it was that easy. But its not, it can be underlying and not even intentional.
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With George Floyd, the dude was all messed up and handcuffed and yet they were still scared of him. The murderer cop in Dallas, she freaked out at the sight of a black guy in his kitchen. Philando Castile, same thing. Guy had his kids in the car and they were scared of him.

They get scared and they shoot. Gotta stop with that
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LMAO at "scared", the officers were not "scared" of Floyd.

The idiot in Dallas thought she was in her apartment, so she shot him, it wouldn't have mattered if he was black or white or pink

Castile (which i agree was a terrible shoot), the officer (who wasn't white) WAS scared and that's a training/personal issue to THAT officer no one else
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
LMAO at "scared", the officers were not "scared" of Floyd.

The idiot in Dallas thought she was in her apartment, so she shot him, it wouldn't have mattered if he was black or white or pink

Castile (which i agree was a terrible shoot), the officer (who wasn't white) WAS scared and that's a training/personal issue to THAT officer no one else
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As a former cop, you know that other officers probably knew Chauvin was a problem. In your opinion, as this problem continues to evolve, why are police so reticent to call out the bad cops among them? Is it loyalty? Is it numbers? These bad cops keep giving the entirety a black eye, yet still silence. What do you think it will take for police to start policing their own?

And I know not every shoot is a bad shoot, nor is every cop a racist, and that an inaccurate picture of police is often painted, but when does enough become enough? What will it take to get the police to look at themselves and start saying "that's not okay"?
 
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Weezer said:
As a former cop, you know that other officers probably knew Chauvin was a problem. In your opinion, as this problem continues to evolve, why are police so reticent to call out the bad cops among them? Is it loyalty? Is it numbers? These bad cops keep giving the entirety a black eye, yet still silence. What do you think it will take for police to start policing their own?

And I know not every shoot is a bad shoot, nor is every cop a racist, and that an inaccurate picture of police is often painted, but when does enough become enough? What will it take to get the police to look at themselves and start saying "that's not okay"?
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Right now cops are criticized for nearly every decision they make are often times filmed by any woke goofball with a cell phone, of course they are going to circle the wagons and defend their brethren. Most of the attacks levied against them are unjustified, so the few legitimate ones are drowned out by the constant drum beat to defund and disband.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Right now cops are criticized for nearly every decision they make are often times filmed by any woke goofball with a cell phone, of course they are going to circle the wagons and defend their brethren. Most of the attacks levied against them are unjustified, so the few legitimate ones are drowned out by the constant drum beat to defund and disband.
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And I don't disagree, but it's also up to the police to address and fix the problem of the bad officers they have among them. Derek Chauvin was a bad cop. Sadly, he'll probably take down 3 other cops who had no idea how to react to what their training officer was doing. Now, imagine if the force itself had weeded that problem out? That's what needs to happen. Police forces need to police themselves as much as they police their communities. Maybe more so, because they represent the law. They should hold themselves to a higher standard, yet in many ways, we're seeing they don't. I'm just asking those who are or have been cops, what's the solution to bad police? I don't believe the majority of cops are bad, which is the picture many want to paint. But you cannot deny that bad cops are out there. How do we, as a society, eliminate that if the police won't speak out against their "brethren"?
 
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