Did Butch Jones do a good job coaching this season?

Did Butch Jones do a good job coaching UT in the 2013 season?

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#252
#252
Yes. The difference in how they played was obvious from the first time they stepped on the field.
 
#253
#253
"Also, we clearly need a coach to stick around and love the program for awhile. Dont underestimate what impact that will have on our players. Sure Jones needs to coach better on the field, and he will when he has more capable players to play in the SEC. Until then expect subpar called plays to be performed by subpar athletes that hopefully have a big enough heart to overcome. You cant expect coaches to win against SEC teams by making the perfect play calls all game. Sometimes you make the wrong call, it just shows more when your overall athletism is not very high.



With that being said, I hope CBJ can turn things around. 100% in his favor. Chalk this year up and look forward to next year. GO VOLS"

This is the issue everyone seems to be hanging their hats on.
 
#254
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Sandvol said:
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This is the issue everyone seems to be hanging their hats on.
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well not everyone, there are some teams in the SEC that are doing great, with great athletes, that are winning. but theres no lying about the past. No ones went through the same coaching changes like we have in the past couple of years in the SEC, and it devastated UT. but with the nature of people they want everything now. and a restructure or reorganization to create a better product doesnt happen over night. and to ignore it, is ignorant but we do need to move on ASAP from it. This was year 1 lets look at year 2 and 3 and possibly 4 before we say yep he cant coach he sucks.
 
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#256
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SaintLouisVol said:
I sure wish they would have decided they didn't want to be 5-7 either.
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yeah, no kidding..... I think the realistic record was 6-6 after seeing how all the might win games went.... Auburn and Mizzou was actually a hopeful W once upon a time.... They've got better.
 
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BigTCountry said:
well not everyone, there are some teams in the SEC that are doing great, with great athletes, that are winning. but theres no lying about the past. No ones went through the same coaching changes like we have in the past couple of years in the SEC, and it devastated UT. but with the nature of people they want everything now. and a restructure or reorganization to create a better product doesnt happen over night. and to ignore it, is ignorant but we do need to move on ASAP from it. This was year 1 lets look at year 2 and 3 and possibly 4 before we say yep he cant coach he sucks.
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"And possibly 4 before we say yep".... if we are waiting 4 years the VOLNATION will be in a state that is indescribable.
 
#259
#259
photovol said:
Butch would probably receive a B+ if judged by other SEC coaches
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Gators, Bama, Mizzou, Auburn, and Vandy would certainly grade him A+ and encourage him to keep up the great job his staff has done so far, but SCjr and UGA may grade him in C-D range so somewhere around B+ overall is about right. As far as recruiting I think the whole SEC would collectively give Butch a big resounding F and want him fired asap.
 
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Sandvol said:
"And possibly 4 before we say yep".... if we are waiting 4 years the VOLNATION will be in a state that is indescribable.
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that's okay, volnation doesnt pull any weight.... this program is not going to win a SEC championship next year or even going 8-4. they will get better but their not going to dominate top SEC opponents in the next year or two... dont hang your hat on miracles. hang your hat on realism and be happy when it works out
 
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BigTCountry said:
that's okay, volnation doesnt pull any weight.... this program is not going to win a SEC championship next year or even going 8-4. they will get better but their not going to dominate top SEC opponents in the next year or two... dont hang your hat on miracles. hang your hat on realism and be happy when it works out
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Realism is that coaches that are going to succeed usually do so sooner rather than later and especially over the past 25 years or so.

Realism is that Volnation is a reflection of the fanbase and has been a pretty accurate reflection of the temperment of the decision makers at UT.

UT may not dominate top SEC opponents in the next year or two... but if Jones doesn't prove he can compete with them realism says his leash won't be longer than 4 years. When I say "compete"... I mean beat some and don't get blown out by 28+ points by 4 in a single season... or even 2 in the same season.

You may be satisfied to wait 7 to 10 years to figure out whether a coach can win... but the VAST majority of those who spend money in various ways to support the program... from the guy who buys a T-shirt to the guy who donates big bucks... aren't.
 
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sjt18 said:
Realism is that coaches that are going to succeed usually do so sooner rather than later and especially over the past 25 years or so.

Realism is that Volnation is a reflection of the fanbase and has been a pretty accurate reflection of the temperment of the decision makers at UT.

UT may not dominate top SEC opponents in the next year or two... but if Jones doesn't prove he can compete with them realism says his leash won't be longer than 4 years. When I say "compete"... I mean beat some and don't get blown out by 28+ points by 4 in a single season... or even 2 in the same season.

You may be satisfied to wait 7 to 10 years to figure out whether a coach can win... but the VAST majority of those who spend money in various ways to support the program... from the guy who buys a T-shirt to the guy who donates big bucks... aren't.
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This.

It seems like most of the posters on here want to believe that coaches are just mediocre for years and then suddenly become exceptional, for no reason or cause, like its spontaneous combustion or divine intervention or something. Ron Zook, Mike Shula, Karl Dorrell, Mike Sherman, Bill Callahan, Charlie Weiss, and Randy Shannon all wish they had fans like these.
 
#263
#263
The instant gratification generation folks will say Butch sucks. Compared to what I had to endure during the Johnny Majors era I'd say Butch is knocking it out of the park.
 
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VolStrom said:
The instant gratification generation folks will say Butch sucks. Compared to what I had to endure during the Johnny Majors era I'd say Butch is knocking it out of the park.
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Majors won a National Championship at his previous job. I'd say that warrants a lot more patience than a pair of fake Big East "co-championships."
 
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SGMVols said:
Majors won a National Championship at his previous job. I'd say that warrants a lot more patience than a pair of fake Big East "co-championships."
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Define fake big east championships. What about his 4 outright and/or shared championships in the MAC and Big East were fake?
 
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#266
#266
How do you evaluate the season? Did Butch make strides? Did we fall back even more in 2013? ARe we well on our way? It's been long enough for everyone to have calmed down and give an honest opinion.
 
#267
#267
I think CBJ made great strides. He let us know week in and week out that this is a process and its not going to happen overnight, like most of us wanted. South Alabama game looked a little worrying to me, but CBJ said in his postgame that he was just fine with the game because Tennessee didn't quit. I don't think we fell back at all. This was like the first year in high school, next year we'll be the cool kids or at least friends with the cool kids. 2014 looks good to me. 6 maybe 7 wins and a bowl game. I like the tempo, the heart, and the passion we have roaming the sidelines now. Better than Dooley ever dreamed of being.
 
#271
#271
Lots of disappointment on the field. We still found ways to lose in situations where we had a chance for a big win. The lone exception being the win over South Carolina - a game in which, for once, the other team decided to fall apart in the crunch instead of us.

In retrospect, after considering all the talent that departed after last season on offense (Bray, Patterson, Hunter), it is not surprising that we had a similiar result on the field in terms of wins and losses.

For me, the loss to Vanderbilt really ruined what I would have otherwise said was a decent effort for our new coaching staff. It just left a really, really bad taste to have watched our defense play so well all game and then during that last drive seemingly become unable to defend a pass. The 4th and inches play really wasn't that big of a surprise -- it is tough to keep a decent team from gaining an inch under any conditions. Vandy's not a bad team, but we should have won that one, and we didn't.

The recruiting results are encouraging, but I am hesitant to get too excited about it until I see how these young guys pan out on the field. I am hopeful but remain in a "wait and see" mindset.

I think that this is probably where most of the fanbase is right now: feeling decent about the future becuase of the incoming recruits but extremely disappointed that we fell one game short (again) of making a bowl game. I think we are all slightly hopeful but after being burned for quite a few years now, most of us remain somewhat doubtful until actual results emerge on the field. That's the unfortunate result of Phillip Fulmer's decent into mediocrity over the last few years of his tenure, Lane Kiffin's buffoonery in his disastrous one year on the job, and Derek Dooley's absolute incompetence.

Someday, our Volunteers will be back to the top! We've got the best fans in the world! Go Big Orange!!!!
 
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#272
#272
We did make some strides I.E. recruiting and beating a good team in SCAR. Can't really blame him for playing Dobbs due to injuries at QB. Need to see more strides next year with sustained recruiting, PLAYCALLING, better defense etc. overall the only complaint I have is the entire offensive game plan against vandy. Tis all!
 
#273
#273
Got whipped by 5 true top ten teams

Lost two extremely close ones that could've gone either way to UGA & Vandy

Then there was the Florida/Peterman experiment

We got a top 3 class coming in that could potentially replace 40% of the current roster with top talent

Definitely don't think we've fallen back, but from a perception standpoint, I do wish we were going to a bowl. If we had had just one less top ten team or could've pulled out one of the close ones let's me know we're really close; and the recruiting class is how you get over the hump and on to better things.
 
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#274
#274
CBJs first year is like a glazed donut. Lots of good things happening off the field but still a hole on the field. I believe Butch will fill in the middle within 2 years and it has been comforting not seeing UT on the ESPN ticker for stupid and selfish acts by players.
 
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#275
#275
I'm encouraged but at the same time disappointed in the losses to GA & Vandy. Esp Vandy since we thought we had it won. This recruiting class is unbelievable & I'm anxious to see them take the field next year. We are moving in the right direction with CBJ. I hope we keep our staff together & end up in the Top 5 on signing day. I don't think too many schools could go 5-7, 7-6, 6-7, 5-7, 5-7, 5-7 in the last 6 years & sign a top class but it looks like UT is going to do just that. Couldn't be happier with bUTch!
 
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