Did Butch Jones do a good job coaching this season?

Did Butch Jones do a good job coaching UT in the 2013 season?

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#76
#76
For the turnaround in academic performance and reduction in off the field issues alone I am going to say yes. While his final record doesn't say he did a good job, when you consider how positively brutal our schedule was this year and the lack of talent and depth on this roster, I would say CBJ did about as good a job as you could have expected.
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
I think this is a tough poll.

If "coaching" is simply game time / game week then the answer is No. This staff left a lot of opportunities on the field. I'm willing to chalk it up to Year One and not knowing the team and the team not knowing them.

However, 80% of college football is won in the off-season where Butch is flat going Gruden and killing it. Collegiate "coaching" includes recruiting, and it is Fulmer-hot right now.
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I don't think Gruden would have done better than Jones in this 2nd class.

This is the best recruiting performance I have seen at UT since at least Fulmer's peak days. There was an article posted in the recruiting forum today about a JUCO named Reed that recently committed to Bama. It mentioned the kid's mom preferring UT. If Jones is beating Saban around the coffee table and especially with Saban's recent success... that's pretty stout.
 
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sjt18 said:
I don't think Gruden would have done better than Jones in this 2nd class.

This is the best recruiting performance I have seen at UT since at least Fulmer's peak days. There was an article posted today about a JUCO named Reed that recently committed to Bama in the recruiting forum. It mentioned the kid's mom preferring UT. If Jones is beating Saban around the coffee table and especially with Saban's recent success... that's pretty stout.
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Gruden would definitely retire St Nick or send him to Austin, stat (just another reason to have hired him).

I agree though - no one can complain about BuJo and his domination of the off-season.
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
Gruden would definitely retire St Nick or send him to Austin, stat (just another reason to have hired him).

I agree though - no one can complain about BuJo and his domination of the off-season.
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I like Gruden, but what evidence is there that he would've done anything this past year? There's no way he would've beaten Saban this year or next IMHO. What evidence is there?

Not saying that I wouldn't have loved him being hired.... but he was never coming to UT and if he had, he has no experience as a collegiate head coach.... how do we know his NFL experience would've translated? Not saying it wouldn't have, but there's no way to know.
 
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fade route said:
You are confusing being happy with 5-7 and happy with coaching. Of course nobody is happy with going 5-7, but al in all, most people as evidenced by your poll, still think he did a pretty good job coaching. Not sure any other coach would have fared much better with this team.
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Arkansas had a better schedule and a worse record. Florida had a SLIGHTLY easier schedule, and finished worse than us. Honestly, I'm happy that this recruiting class is coming in. Dooley took a team with an offense that's killing it in the NFL this year and STILL only won 5 games. Butch took a lot less talent and matched it, and should have beaten it had we caught a break. I don't know why people have to come on here and complain about Butch EVERY day, but let em. They aren't changing my opinion on it, or anyone else's for that matter, so I'm fine with them wasting their time.
 
#83
#83
We beat a top 15 team (South Carolina) and basically beat Georgia. We should have had Vandy, but we just didn't execute enough. I think Butch did a great job with what he had. Worley got hurt, so we had to rely on a true freshman to beat Missouri and Auburn, which wasn't going to happen. He also did a good job in maintaining the team's focus. There was not one game where we just gave up, unlike Dooley's teams did. Especially when it came to the Kentucky game, I was honestly surprised we beat them. I literally thought the same thing would've happened when Dooley was here 2 years ago when we went into Lexington knowing we weren't going to a bowl and loss. Butch is recruiting top notch players, and for right now, that's where it all starts. You can't win big if you don't recruit well. It's going to take time. I have faith in Butch that he will get us back to where we once so rightfully stood
 
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fade route said:
You are confusing being happy with 5-7 and happy with coaching. Of course nobody is happy with going 5-7, but al in all, most people as evidenced by your poll, still think he did a pretty good job coaching. Not sure any other coach would have fared much better with this team.
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The funny thing about all of this garbage is no one had a clue what Lane Kiffin could do as a head coach but didn't care because of the recruiting and trash talking....but he was a salesman and everyone bought in because of his energy and promises.

Butch has a proven winning record of being a HC and winning his given conferences.....yet everyone is doubting him regardless of all the NFL offensive talent this team lost and lack of depth on both sides of the ball.
Butch would've lost 4 games total this year....maybe 3 with the roster Dooley had last season....with or without Bray IMHO.

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#85
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Did he do a good job? I wouldn't say that, so I voted No.

But I wouldn't say he did a bad job either. It was just average.
 
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#86
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We certainly didn't outperform. But we didn't terribly under-perform either. Kind of went as expected.
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
Gruden would definitely retire St Nick or send him to Austin, stat (just another reason to have hired him).

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Not so fast my friend....

Sometimes pro coaches do well and sometimes they don't. Carroll prior to USC was a good but not great NFL coach who excelled in college.

Sherman was a pretty comparable coach to Gruden and couldn't cut it at TAM in the Big 12.

Saban is the gold standard of college coaches right now and wasn't a very good NFL coach. Petrino and Spurrier likewise.


The coaching is different and NFL coaches do nothing comparable to recruiting.
 
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golfballs said:
We certainly didn't outperform. But we didn't terribly under-perform either. Kind of went as expected.
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Good thing we didn't get Pete Carroll....or Urban Meyer....or Bob Stoops...or Bobby Petrino....because when they sucked this season with this roster some on here would be...

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DERELICK_MY_VOLS said:
The funny thing about all of this garbage is no one had a clue what Lane Kiffin could do as a head coach but didn't care because of the recruiting and trash talking....but he was a salesman and everyone bought in because of his energy and promises.
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I didn't care for much of what he did to get attention. The recruiting looked much better than it was.

I knew he had no loyalty to UT but was told by some here it didn't matter if he brought in good players and won a championship within 3 years.

Butch has a proven winning record of being a HC and winning his given conferences.....yet everyone is doubting him regardless of all the NFL offensive talent this team lost and lack of depth on both sides of the ball.
Butch would've lost 4 games total this year....maybe 3 with the roster Dooley had last season....with or without Bray IMHO.
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The '12 Vol roster was a 10+ win roster. No one thought the '13 roster was. The doubt comes in because he took a potential 7 win roster and won 5... or six if you go with the majority of expectations before the season. Yeah, most didn't predict Mizzou or Auburn to be as good as they were... but how many knew UGA and UF would be as bad as they were?

There are few coaching performances that I have ever seen that rival how bad Dooley and gang were in that last year. But saying Jones wasn't "that bad" really doesn't prove very much.
 
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We had four games no coach couldve won, four games no coach shouldve lost and four games the coach couldve made a difference. We were 1-3 in those 4 games. The Butch defenders accepting 5 wins point out nobody expected Missouri and Auburn to be that good well I dont think many expected Florida and Georgia to be that bad (mostly because of injuries). If our coach had won 1 of those games we'd be bowl elgible, 2 and we'd have been ranked, all 3 and we'd be 8-4 and there wouldnt be much of a debate. I cant stand the guy in Nashville but I think he'd have won 3 maybe 4.
 
#92
#92
CBJ and company did all right,nothing spectacular,it showed that CBJ wasn't use to the SEC in his coaching this year,but he has time to adjust to it and has a great recruiting class coming in,like others have said,he needs time to get acclimated to the SEC and get a better roster on the field
 
#93
#93
I voted "NO."

I also would have voted "NO" if the question had asked if he did a bad job.

He did a job. He didn't fail, he didn't succeed. The jury is still out. I saw a lot of positives. I didn't see some things I wanted to see. Not bad; not good.
 
#94
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Yes ran his play book with players that did not fit the system. Beat a ranked team, beat a rival in the sec, scared a shart out of Georgia, stayed on the recruiting trail and brought a top notch recruit after every loss, time are a changing on rocky top.
 
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golfballs said:
saw this on sale this morning in the columbus airport.

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I flew out of Columbus in October. The Buckeye Cafe had a picture of Jesse Owens on the wall, and, I kid you not, I heard a few people ask if it was Eddie George.

In addition, and I think it is time to admit this, Volnation. I was in Tennessee during football season for the first time since the Fulmer years for the South Carolina game.

Clearly I am the talisman determining the fate of our Volunteers.
 
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wolfe said:
Heard the same crap when Dooley was here - everyone blaming Kiffin. Jones did a horrible job of coaching this year.
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if you would like to my first post on the thread, my answer was no, to rather or not he did good coaching job. I was stating those things to explain why I still have hope for him and the staff even though I don't think they coached well overall this season.
 
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JonGrudensAgent said:
Thanks for clearing that up. I hadn't heard that Dooley had instilled a losing mentality around the program.
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was stating that as my reason for having hope. Many people don't get that, and had unrealistic expectations. I thought that was obvious on Volnation. Furthermore, my post wasn't simply that Dooley instilled a losing mentality. It was more about the ramifications of that and how difficult it can be to overcome in year 1(hence the report about a player saying he had enough with 3 games left in season).
 
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sjt18 said:
No. Four blowouts and a Vandy loss simply cannot be erased by two good games vs UGa and USC. Tangible evidence of player improvement over the course of the season is difficult to find... regression is not very hard to find.

Neither back up QB who played was prepared.

This is not saying they "can't coach" or "won't". This is simply recognizing the fact that the coaching performance in THIS season was not good.
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If those 4 blowouts were to average teams then maybe your argument would have some validity. But when your a first year HC in the situation Butch was in and got blown out by 4 top ten teams, that's a whole different story.

Jones did a good job this year. We had some injuries and played a lot of young players but this team showed progress from last year. Of course you are entitled to your negative opinion.
 
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sjt18 said:
No. Four blowouts and a Vandy loss simply cannot be erased by two good games vs UGa and USC. Tangible evidence of player improvement over the course of the season is difficult to find... regression is not very hard to find.

Neither back up QB who played was prepared.

This is not saying they "can't coach" or "won't". This is simply recognizing the fact that the coaching performance in THIS season was not good.
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Disagree!!!
 
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