Did Butch Jones do a good job coaching this season?

[3rd_and_Jancek]

I thought the coaching this year was very average.The lack of improvement was more than a little disappointing. The SC win was huge but the loss to Vandy at home was embarrassing. Butch seems to be improving the talent with a great job of recruiting but the coaching has to improve as well.

 

[LotteryPick]

I did not expect to beat Oregon, Bama, or Auburn. I didn't expect them to lay down in the first quarter either.

Getting stomped and "laying down" are not synonymous here.

That's what happens when one team is drastically better than the other.

 

[apsuVol92]

the only thing i saw was a couple of situations of bad play calling. idk if butch had anything to do with that situation but then again.. your players make you succeed as a coach and we lack talent/depth at some positions. butch gets it though. go volsssssss

 

[zjcvols]

No. Four blowouts and a Vandy loss simply cannot be erased by two good games vs UGa and USC. Tangible evidence of player improvement over the course of the season is difficult to find... regression is not very hard to find.

Neither back up QB who played was prepared.

This is not saying they "can't coach" or "won't". This is simply recognizing the fact that the coaching performance in THIS season was not good.

I've disagreed with you on most fronts but you are correct here.

The goal was a bowl game. UT didn't get to a bowl. Year one was, sadly, a failure.

 

[zjcvols]

I think the poll would have been better if it was on a grading scale. Its not simple yes or no.

A 90-100
B 80-90
C 75-80
D 70-75
F 0-70

85 for Austin Peay
85 for Western Kentucky
75 for Oregon
70 for Florida
60 for South Alabama
90 for Georgia
95 for South Carolina
70 for Alabama
65 for Missouri
70 for Auburn
50 for Vandy
80 for Kentucky

98 for Recruiting
100 for Public Relations(including media, bringing back players, energy in the program)

So with the way I graded each game(which is based on my opinion only) Jones scored an overall 78 or C. Not bad for the schedule he had to play and it being his first year.

Hopefully he makes it into the 80's next year

Good breakdown.

 

[zjcvols]

Honestly, I don't believe Butch will win titles with Jancek as DC.

Other than Vandy, Bajakin did fine.

 

[governmentmule]

Honestly, I don't believe Butch will win titles with Jancek as DC.

Other than Vandy, Bajakin did fine.

time will tell,i feel he will have to make some adjustments to his assistants,he does seem to be a very loyal coach,i don't think he will change anything this coming year,but there should be jobs on the chopping block according to how it goes after next year

 

[sjt18]

If those 4 blowouts were to average teams then maybe your argument would have some validity. But when your a first year HC in the situation Butch was in and got blown out by 4 top ten teams, that's a whole different story.

No. It isn't. Dooley played Oregon and Bama close for a half. Kiffin found a way to frustrate Bama and UF and keep mismatches close.

Oregon was beaten twice by Stanford and ASU. ASU is not a team with elite talent all over the place. WSU, Utah, and Oregon State who are also not just loaded with great talent also gave them much better games than UT did. I could point out similar things about all 4 of those teams.... lesser teams that at least competed somewhat.

Jones did a good job this year. We had some injuries and played a lot of young players but this team showed progress from last year. Of course you are entitled to your negative opinion.

My opinion isn't "negative"... it is just honest. Five wins with a bad loss to an inferior team in terms of talent is NOT a good job. Again, it is not the end of the story and may very well be the valley before the climb to the mountain top... but don't pretend that dog doo is a Tootsie Roll.

 

[HARTUPM]

Early in the season the QB situation was really a no win situation for CBJ.... Worley looked horrible early on, Peterman ended up being a train wreck, and we all knew it would be meltdown city if CBJ voluntarily burned a Freshman QB's redshirt (which he obviously was forced to due to injuries).

With that being said, I still stand by that a .500 or better winning record would have been a good job in year one, considering the schedule. He had to beat Vandy and get to a bowl game, and he could not get it done.

 

[sjt18]

Early in the season the QB situation was really a no win situation for CBJ.... Worley looked horrible early on, Peterman ended up being a train wreck, and we all knew it would be meltdown city if CBJ voluntarily burned a Freshman QB's redshirt (which he obviously was forced to due to injuries).

With that being said, I still stand by that a .500 or better winning record would have been a good job in year one, considering the schedule. He had to beat Vandy and get to a bowl game, and he could not get it done.

Well then... you must really hate the Vols then, huh?:whistling:

 

[photovol]

Butch would probably receive a B+ if judged by other SEC coaches

 

[bpalmer28]

The 2013 team was better than the 2012 team, despite having to replace an NFL QB, an NFL TE, and 2 NFL WRs. That's saying something.

We were 1 of only 2 teams to beat South Carolina this year. That's also saying something.

I am disappointed that we lost to Vandy... but they beat Georgia and Florida, so they must be pretty good.

Looking back on the season, Butch was able to pull a big upset and avoid being upset. Therefore, he did a good job.

 

[oregonvol]

Looking back on the season, Butch was able to pull a big upset and avoid being upset. Therefore, he did a good job.

How on earth did you figure that? We were favored to win the Vanderbilt game.

 

[Sandvol]

Butch would probably receive a B+ if judged by other SEC coaches

I'm always suspicious when other SEC coaches are commending our coach. The only coach they haven't commended the last few years was Bruce Pearl (and Kiffin) and he kicked everybody's arse.

P.S.-I want a coach that everybody hates like James Franklin.

 

[oregonvol]

I'm always suspicious when other SEC coaches are commending our coach. The only coach they haven't commended the last few years was Bruce Pearl (and Kiffin) and he kicked everybody's arse.

P.S.-I want a coach that everybody hates like James Franklin.

Yep. Saban thought Dooley was doing an amazing job here.

 

[Sandvol]

The 2013 team was better than the 2012 team, despite having to replace an NFL QB, an NFL TE, and 2 NFL WRs. That's saying something.

We were 1 of only 2 teams to beat South Carolina this year. That's also saying something.

I am disappointed that we lost to Vandy... but they beat Georgia and Florida, so they must be pretty good.

Looking back on the season, Butch was able to pull a big upset and avoid being upset. Therefore, he did a good job.

Slightly better but I don't think it is difficult for anyone to coach better than the staff we had last year and that still doesn't make him a good coach especially when your special team has an NCAA record established against it late in the season.

 

[sjt18]

Butch would probably receive a B+ if judged by other SEC coaches

Please explain. Honestly I don't see Saban, Pinkel, Franklin, Muschamp, or Malzahn giving him anything in that neighborhood.

 

[Sandvol]

Please explain. Honestly I don't see Saban, Pinkel, Franklin, Muschamp, or Malzahn giving him anything in that neighborhood.

Oh, I think they all might if they don't perceive him as a threat.

 

[sjt18]

The 2013 team was better than the 2012 team, despite having to replace an NFL QB, an NFL TE, and 2 NFL WRs. That's saying something.

Same record. UT avg'd 23.8 ppg vs 36.2 in '12. UT allowed 29.0 ppg vs 35.7 The '12 Vols avg margin of loss was 7.8 pts. In '13, it was 21.6 pts (probably a record but I haven't looked it up).

Granted that the Vols lost some great talent on O... but I'm not sure where you get that it was a better team.

We were 1 of only 2 teams to beat South Carolina this year. That's also saying something.

And lost to Vandy... were one of only 4 wins by a TERRIBLE UF team....

I am disappointed that we lost to Vandy... but they beat Georgia and Florida, so they must be pretty good.

UF had their worst season in 3 decades. UGA was missing virtually all of their best players on O by then. Vandy was not a good team nor were UGA when they played Vandy or UF at any point during the season.

Looking back on the season, Butch was able to pull a big upset and avoid being upset. Therefore, he did a good job.

Losing to Vandy was a worse loss than beating USCe was a great win.

 

[Sandvol]

Same record. UT avg'd 23.8 ppg vs 36.2 in '12. UT allowed 29.0 ppg vs 35.7 The '12 Vols avg margin of loss was 7.8 pts. In '13, it was 21.6 pts (probably a record but I haven't looked it up).

Granted that the Vols lost some great talent on O... but I'm not sure where you get that it was a better team.

And lost to Vandy... were one of only 4 wins by a TERRIBLE UF team....

UF had their worst season in 3 decades. UGA was missing virtually all of their best players on O by then. Vandy was not a good team nor were UGA when they played Vandy or UF at any point during the season.



Losing to Vandy was a worse loss than beating USCe was a great win.

Touche!

 

[alltimevol2331]

No. It isn't. Dooley played Oregon and Bama close for a half. Kiffin found a way to frustrate Bama and UF and keep mismatches close.

Oregon was beaten twice by Stanford and ASU. ASU is not a team with elite talent all over the place. WSU, Utah, and Oregon State who are also not just loaded with great talent also gave them much better games than UT did. I could point out similar things about all 4 of those teams.... lesser teams that at least competed somewhat.

My opinion isn't "negative"... it is just honest. Five wins with a bad loss to an inferior team in terms of talent is NOT a good job. Again, it is not the end of the story and may very well be the valley before the climb to the mountain top... but don't pretend that dog doo is a Tootsie Roll.

Every team that the Vols lost to had better talent. However, they beat one with more talent S. Carolina.

 

[alltimevol2331]

How on earth did you figure that? We were favored to win the Vanderbilt game.

Should have never been favored in the Vandy game.

 

[3rd_and_Jancek]

Should have never been favored in the Vandy game.

Vandy had more talent than us? Ok, one question. Are you wearing a helmet right now?

 

[ice]

but I am not going to judge him until he has his own recruits on the field for at least two years.
By then, we should expect noticeable improvement.

 

[alltimevol2331]

Vandy had more talent than us? Ok, one question. Are you wearing a helmet right now?

Not sure how old you guys on here are but I can tell you all of you something. I started going to UT games in 1978 for the next 18 years I never missed a game (home or away). In 96 my wife and I had our first child so I missed three games until my daughter was born. After that I went to every game up to 2006. During that time I saw some great players and great teams. Right now I rank this teams talent with the late 70's talent that struggled to beat anyone. There is not a single team or year since that time has this UT team been so bad and very little talent as they are now. Even the 88 5-6 had a lot of talent just a lot of bad luck to start the season. As that team finished 11-1 the next season.