Dobbs needs to be the starter

#76
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VOLorNuttin said:
...for this offense to really thrive. Under normal circumstances, I'd go with seniority/experience....and thus Worley, but Dobbs lets this offense open up, full-throttle.

Was reading this article, by Fox Sports, about Freshmen who could contend for the Heisman.
Cory McCartney: Frosh Perspective: First-year players that could vie for Heisman Trophy | FOX Sports

LSU's Fournette was one of them; Hurd was another. But the problem here is, not only do we have a new front 5 on the OL, but playing Worley allows defenses to really key in on Hurd.

Dobbs is our best chance to keep defenses honest, off balance and always guessing. So, if all things are relatively equal among the QB's, in the passing game....Dobbs has to be the starter.

The way I look at it is this...Dobbs, hands down, looked the best in the Spring. Did he separate himself in practice, before that? Probably not. But, again, in a game environment, he easily looked the best. Give him the starting nod, and if he struggles a lot, then you can put Worley or Peterman in.
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Says the armchair coach who has watched zero practices....
 
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Not that I disagree but Worley is our best chance to get to a bowl, redshirt dobbs is probably the plan.

Having said that Im not sure he will be here beyond his Jr season, kids smart and most likely graduate and move.
 
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ItsAllVols said:
Not that I disagree but Worley is our best chance to get to a bowl, redshirt dobbs is probably the plan.

Having said that Im not sure he will be here beyond his Jr season, kids smart and most likely graduate and move.
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I would bet he stays all four years. Probably does grad school for his senior year.
 
#80
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Convert Hurd to a QB. Talk about respecting the QBs ability to run if Hurd could throw! Afterall he is too tall to be a real RB (that is a joke btw), but would be perfect as a passer and runner.

I'm not really serious, but it is cool to fantasize about it. Hell, look at Nick Marshall.

Then throw in AJ in the beast package when we are inside the 5yd line with Hurd as Tailback.

There is a reason I am not a college football coach... but dreaming is fun.
 
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Power T-Rev said:
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Can't help butt feel this post was made by an elementary school kid on recess. Or at least a person with the mind of one.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
...for this offense to really thrive. Under normal circumstances, I'd go with seniority/experience....and thus Worley, but Dobbs lets this offense open up, full-throttle.

Was reading this article, by Fox Sports, about Freshmen who could contend for the Heisman.
Cory McCartney: Frosh Perspective: First-year players that could vie for Heisman Trophy | FOX Sports

LSU's Fournette was one of them; Hurd was another. But the problem here is, not only do we have a new front 5 on the OL, but playing Worley allows defenses to really key in on Hurd.

Dobbs is our best chance to keep defenses honest, off balance and always guessing. So, if all things are relatively equal among the QB's, in the passing game....Dobbs has to be the starter.

The way I look at it is this...Dobbs, hands down, looked the best in the Spring. Did he separate himself in practice, before that? Probably not. But, again, in a game environment, he easily looked the best. Give him the starting nod, and if he struggles a lot, then you can put Worley or Peterman in.
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Alot of people are giving this guy heck he dont deserve. from a fan prospective it was nice someone run at the QB position, but the problem was he was inexperienced and made amateur decisions. IF he can grow from that he would easily start over Worley. If he can complete 50% of his passes I would start him over Worley. Lets not forget although Worley helped us win "1" big game there are definitely more games in his career right now that point the other way to the "L" column, that left us feeling like we had absolutely no chance. To think that Worley has a ton of room for improvement is absolutely unrealistic being a senior but he could improve some this season. Dobbs on the other hand got ruled out last by many fans last he because he performed poorly as a true freshman at the most easily seen position on the field and TV with 3-4 years to grow and develop. If Dobbs comes around by this time next year he will be undeniable.

There were plenty of games last year where everybody on the field was screwing up, wrong routes, lazy O-line, dropped passes, along with Freshman QB mistakes, and being down most of the season every game doesnt help any(thats why we 5-7). he used his feet alot to get us a set of 4 more downs so our team could have a shot. NOT saying he's the answer or that he has the arm to be our 1st string, but I'm pulling for him to make a case next year.

Personally, I hope its planned. That the coaches are going with seniority and experience in this developmental year and that Dobbs gets some mechanics down over the course of the coming season and off season. If Dobbs comes out and performs like a QB throwing wise with his wheels and with the WRU and a experienced Oline next year we are developing that could allow us to see an offense that we UT fans have been longing for, for a LONG time.

You fans that wrote his career off completely over last year pitty you. and fans that act like Volornuttin doesnt get an opinion pitty you also. make an analysis dont say something that puts your IQ in the negative
 
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volfanhill said:
Still trying to figure out why people think Dobbs is a great runner?
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Perhaps it has to do with him being the only UT qb in recent memory that has ripped off huge gains by running. I can think of three plays off the top of my head where he outran or Juked and jived his way through the defense to pick up huge chunks of yardage.
 
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this gentlemen is what is tough about college football. By all rights the kid stepped up last season and was forced into a position he probably wasn't quite ready for, but took it like a man and did the best he could. Unfortunately the best man has to take the field and he just simply is not performing in camp to be the starter as of now.
There are many that will disagree, but even though Worley will be the starter, if I had my choice, Dobbs would be backup simply because he has the SEC experience in his back pocket that Peterman simply does not have. I like our chances with Dobbs over Peterman in a backup roll any day.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
This offense is generally predicated on the Read Option, even though they have shown they can adapt it. With Worley, teams can discount him as a legit running threat. We saw last year. He's good for maybe one run all game long. Knowing that, and knowing he doesn't have much mobility, DE's can crash down 100% of the time on the runner, and the whole front 7 can focus on the TB.

He might be slightly more consistent in the passing game, in practice, but unless there is a big gap between them, I hope CBJ give Dobbs the job.
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1. We don't run that much read option. The coaches are going to adapt the offense to fit the personnel on the field. We have good RBs and great WRs...why do we need the QB to run?

2. Worley is more mobile than most give him credit for. If the DEs are crashing down 100% of the time like you claim, there will be plenty of room for him to run.
 
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I feel like we'll all be surprised with the improvements that Worley has made this offseason. Sounds like peterman is pushing him and competition will make them both better. I'm not biased towards any of the qbs. I just want whoever gives us the bast chance to win, win the job. With the weapons we have at receiver, the best passer should and will win the job.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
1. We don't run that much read option. The coaches are going to adapt the offense to fit the personnel on the field. We have good RBs and great WRs...why do we need the QB to run?

2. Worley is more mobile than most give him credit for. If the DEs are crashing down 100% of the time like you claim, there will be plenty of room for him to run.
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1. Well we have little experience on the line, so Im anticipating as anyone should because sacks are bound to happen a little more this year that Worley is going to get smacked in the mouth a little more often this year, when a mobile QB would be gaining 0-10 yards on a busted play.

2. Yes, he may be. The fact of the matter was that last year even CBJ wanted to see Worley tuck and run every now and then but he just wouldnt except once in a blue moon, and sometimes it ACTUALLY worked. Could improve in this area.

All fans are reaching for answers to have a winning season lets all respect that for a few minutes. (NOT @ you Ktown)
 
#92
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Other_Guy said:
I will puke in my mouth if Dobbs starts. He was awful and apparently still is. You wanted attention you got it.
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Well you just might end up eating a humble pie with regurgitated topping. Post video please. Nobody on this forum knows nothing. Talking heads on radio know nothing. Everybody talks like they're Coach Jones co-joined twin and therefore know everything he is thinking, every decision he has made but has not announced, and then they disregard everything he has actually said. What he has said is that the offense will be fast with a variety of options. Worley gives us exactly one option. The stiff behind center. Opposing defenses know this and can spend an entire week concentrating on this major fact alone and know they will come away with a win. They know that Worley, without the help of a magical fairy-dust, is not going to throw consistent laser-like passes in quick time, and that there is not enough experience up front to protect while he dithers. I am not CBJ's co-joined twin, so unlike other posters here, I do not know what he is thinking and who the starter will be. But being a reasonable man, I feel it safe to assume that he might consider having someone behind center who might be a little predictable for opposing defenses. That is what his stated mindset of a variety of options is. :hi:
 
#93
#93
Dobbs has had the worst camp out of all the QBs. So yes, by all means...make him the starter. It's only logical.

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utvols74 said:
OP, I agree with your notion about a mobile QB. I've been saying since Favre was with the Packers that football is moving toward mobile QBs who offer a threat that pocket QBs can't. You simply give an offense another weapon when the QB can scramble for 10 yards.

Ironically, UT proved this back in the 70s with Condredge Holloway. Schuler's soph campaign proved that point again and we won a NC with Tee Martin (who scrambled some).

We need to decide what we are....a pro-style system or a read-option-run system. If we're read option, Dobbs/Petterman are the front runners. Pro-style is probably Worley.

Point - I don't think we can be "both" with the experience level of this squad and perhaps never at all. Indecision on this question IMHO will only lead to on-field confusion with ineffectual execution and disappointed fans.
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What were Dobbs' rushing stats last year?

Throws to runs percentage?

Wins?
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Perhaps it has to do with him being the only UT qb in recent memory that has ripped off huge gains by running. I can think of three plays off the top of my head where he outran or Juked and jived his way through the defense to pick up huge chunks of yardage.
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How many games did we win due to said runs?
 
#96
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trampas2bad said:
Well you just might end up eating a humble pie with regurgitated topping. Post video please. Nobody on this forum knows nothing. Talking heads on radio know nothing. Everybody talks like they're Coach Jones co-joined twin and therefore know everything he is thinking, every decision he has made but has not announced, and then they disregard everything he has actually said. What he has said is that the offense will be fast with a variety of options. Worley gives us exactly one option. The stiff behind center. Opposing defenses know this and can spend an entire week concentrating on this major fact alone and know they will come away with a win. They know that Worley, without the help of a magical fairy-dust, is not going to throw consistent laser-like passes in quick time, and that there is not enough experience up front to protect while he dithers. I am not CBJ's co-joined twin, so unlike other posters here, I do not know what he is thinking and who the starter will be. But being a reasonable man, I feel it safe to assume that he might consider having someone behind center who might be a little predictable for opposing defenses. That is what his stated mindset of a variety of options is. :hi:
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Most of those "talking heads" have been attending practices

They have all made remarks of Dobbs' inaccurate passing and how Worley and Peterman are preforming better than him

But by all means, disregard facts
 
#99
#99
If Dobbs is our QB, we will be looking at a 4 win season at best.

Contrary to the OP, he did not have a good spring. He did have a very good spring game, but he struggled the rest of the spring prior to that game.

Dobbs has reportedly regressed in regards to his passing skills this summer camp. We do not run the triple option and our offense requires an accurate passer who can get the ball into the hands of the playmakers. He has not done an adequate job of that since he has been at UT.
 
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Dobbs is not going to be the starter. Worley is going to get the job. He already had it before he got hurt last year, so there's really no reason for anyone to think he won't get it back. Wouldn't surprise me to see Dobbs run several plays a game though. I think he will be used in packages. This could give some defenses some problems. He does add another dimension to the offense so I think we'll see him. I just wouldn't hold my breath on him being the starter.
 
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