Dooley sucks (merged)

#151
#151
yes 17-20 is bad. will you be happy with 17-20, 3 years from now? didnt think so. we can hate this hire but still support the vols, its not either or. i think i can speak for everyone who is a vols fan and hates this hire, WE HOPE WE ARE WRONG, WE HOPE WE EAT CROW, but it doesnt look good. and he "won" the presser, big deal, we were saying that 14 months ago also.
 
#152
#152
wvVol said:
Actually he didn't.

First, he actually stayed more than one year.

Second, his move was clearly a step up, while Kiffin moved from one storied program to another.

Third, he has was much more respectful to everyone in the process.
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Not to mention that Dooley actually built something substantial there(in comparison to what they had before he came) before he left. Kiffin did not.
 
#153
#153
majic73 said:
17-20 is not a myopic view...it is a fact based indicator. Yup , he was in a competative conference without a lot of talent on his team. Do you suppose he is coming to the same situation only at a higher level of the game ?

His lack of experience in big time football and his lack of stand alone recruiting are indicators as well . (Stand alone recruiting meaning his only verified success has come when he worked for saban ...who has always recruited well with or without dooley)

I would just look at the indicators . Risky hire to say the least.
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Well said.

orangepeel said:
Out of all the college coaches from the last hire,Kelly is the one I think we really screwed up on now that I look back. I just don't think Wittingham is interested in coming here,but that's just me thinking out loud.
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That was Hamilton's colossol f up IMO, choosing to hire Kiffin over Kelly. He's never going to recover from that. This last hire was desperation. Wittingham turned UT down too.
 
#154
#154
Yeah, we said the same thing about "the-one-we-cannot-name's" record, and then all of a sudden, everyone is on the Train....

Why don't you take a little time, look at La Tech's schedule (not too many cupcakes) and margin of wins/losses, as well as injuries?

I think Dooley will be great in the long run! I'm behind you CDD!!

GO VOLS!!
 
#155
#155
Derek Dooley is Lane Kiffin with a set of morals. Both of their head coaching records would indicate that neither might be quailified, yet their work load under superior coaches and the fact they were a part of NC teams at other schools is part of the equation here. The man KNOWS how to recruit the SEC as well, and has formed more connections, IMO, in the SEC than Lane ever did. Let the guy do his thing for about 3 years, then pass judgment, IMO.
 
#156
#156
To vols fan,

For my first post as a newly appointed UT fan I have to defend the Hiring of Dooley as the UT coach.

Im an alum of La Tech. For people to not like Dooley as a hire and using his 3 year record as your basis is just plain ridiculus. La Tech did not put any money into there athleteic programs until Dooley was hired. Small schools to balance the budget had to play all the sec/big 12 schools to help maintain there operating budget. Dooley coming to UT and there abundance of money and very loyal fan base will make Dooley shine in the near future.

Do people know that when Dooley was at LSU with Saban, Dooley reccommended two of the hottest young coaches to Saban. THose two coaches were Muschamp and Smart. Dooley can see talent in coaches as well and players. If Dooley followed Saban to ALA and not take the La Tech HC job he wouldve been a very highly sought of asst. coach by this time.

Btw: the only way La Tech could afford to hire someone like Dooley was too make him AD and Head coach.

I like the new UT coach and feel if all "loyal and dedicated" UT fans would not talk so much trash about the pick and support him he will turn the UT program around to be top notch and competitive nationally in the years too come. I also believe he will be a lifer at UT. He will not ditch UT for Georgia.

vol tech
 
#157
#157
I said it it another thread and it may have been posted here already to but oh well. Yes his record is crappy compared to what we want/expect BUT I'm pretty sure Tennessee brings in much better talent than LA Tech so cut the guy some slack. I'd much rather have Dooley, than the AF coach or Cutt. so for those of you bashing OUR new coach why don't you follow Lane to Crap-10.
 
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#160
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#161
#161
The majority of people who say Dooley sucks are around the age of 12 of football fans who know nothing about football. Many people are passing judgement on a coach you have never seen coach before. When was the last La. Tech you watched? Exactly you didn't. Every year they play 4-5 teams that are far superior to them which is typically an automatic loss.

You could argue the last jerk that left was a worst hire upon first look. No college head coaching experience, only a couple years as OC, just finished adding to a dismal NFL record, and came with a letter of no recommendation from his former employer. The only difference was his daddy came.

IMO Dooley will be a VOL for a long time, and take us back to the way the VOLS are supposed to be.

Every big time coach was once where Dooley is. A fan base who had no clue who he was, and then he got his big break and now he is one of the best. Some of you guys are terrible fans, and you cheer for Tennessee like Kiffin coached it, only as long as you get what you want and need out of it.

Go cheer for Southern Cal then. You seem to be more like their type.
 
#162
#162
VolTech said:
To vols fan,

For my first post as a newly appointed UT fan I have to defend the Hiring of Dooley as the UT coach.

Im an alum of La Tech. For people to not like Dooley as a hire and using his 3 year record as your basis is just plain ridiculus. La Tech did not put any money into there athleteic programs until Dooley was hired. Small schools to balance the budget had to play all the sec/big 12 schools to help maintain there operating budget. Dooley coming to UT and there abundance of money and very loyal fan base will make Dooley shine in the near future.

Do people know that when Dooley was at LSU with Saban, Dooley reccommended two of the hottest young coaches to Saban. THose two coaches were Muschamp and Smart. Dooley can see talent in coaches as well and players. If Dooley followed Saban to ALA and not take the La Tech HC job he wouldve been a very highly sought of asst. coach by this time.

Btw: the only way La Tech could afford to hire someone like Dooley was too make him AD and Head coach.

I like the new UT coach and feel if all "loyal and dedicated" UT fans would not talk so much trash about the pick and support him he will turn the UT program around to be top notch and competitive nationally in the years too come. I also believe he will be a lifer at UT. He will not ditch UT for Georgia.

vol tech
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I agree with everything in your post except the Georgia thing. If Richt leaves, I believe that Dooley would jump at the chance to coach the Dawgs, if offered. He grew up in Athens, went to law school there, was his dad's shadow through his formative years. He'll be loyal to UT with any other school except UGA.
 
#163
#163
UGADawg4Life said:
I agree with everything in your post except the Georgia thing. If Richt leaves, I believe that Dooley would jump at the chance to coach the Dawgs, if offered. He grew up in Athens, went to law school there, was his dad's shadow through his formative years. He'll be loyal to UT with any other school except UGA.
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You Georgia fans are probably very happy right now.
 
#164
#164
Much better hire than Lil Lane. I think that if Dooley is given the time (4-5 years) that it takes to show what he can do and is well supported by UT's AD, Administration and fans he will succeed at a very high level consistently and will stay for the long haul.

Is there some risk of failure associated with this hire? Yes, but that's always the case. Jumping to the conclusion that UT made a second rate hire based on his W-L record at La Tech is just wrong. People who know what it takes to be a very good and ultimately great HC at UT in the SEC and know Derek Dooley also know that this is an excellent fit/hire for UT.
 
#165
#165
vol_in_il said:
I couldn't get on due to work circumstances for most of the day today

but 17-20 is his record, and Hambone is hiring him at UT

what a letdown

I love the Vols, and I'm sick to my stomach right now
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Did you say the same thing about Lanes 5-15 record...if not STHU
 
#167
#167
vol_in_il said:
I couldn't get on due to work circumstances for most of the day today

but 17-20 is his record, and Hambone is hiring him at UT

what a letdown

I love the Vols, and I'm sick to my stomach right now
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I'm not particularly excited about this hire at the moment either, but I get the feeling you wouldn't be happy with anyone not named Fulmer.
 
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#171
UGADawg4Life said:
I agree with everything in your post except the Georgia thing. If Richt leaves, I believe that Dooley would jump at the chance to coach the Dawgs, if offered. He grew up in Athens, went to law school there, was his dad's shadow through his formative years. He'll be loyal to UT with any other school except UGA.
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I respectfully have to deny that feeling.

First off Richt is not going anywhere for a long time. A very long time. I believe his job is secure for the rest of his career. Dooley really cares about his perception to the public and the respect he gets for his family. He will not leave UT just too take the Ga. job unless UT fires him and that job was open.

Following in his legendary fathers footsteps would be a challenge and an additional burden he doesnt want to endure. It would be disastorous if he failed at UGA destroying some of the Dooley tradition his father built at UGA.
 
#172
#172
vol_in_il said:
I couldn't get on due to work circumstances for most of the day today

but 17-20 is his record, and Hambone is hiring him at UT

what a letdown

I love the Vols, and I'm sick to my stomach right now
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i won't go that far, but i really don't like the hire.
 
#173
#173
Volgrad98 said:
Not to mention that Dooley actually built something substantial there(in comparison to what they had before he came) before he left. Kiffin did not.
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why do I keep hearing he built something at la tech, the 3 years before he arrived they were 6-6, 7-4, 3-10... upon his arrival they went 5-7, 8-5, 4-8 so in a 3 year span he only won 1 game more. So if he would have lost 1 more game last year would they had fired him like the last coach?
 
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#174
core545 said:
why do I keep hearing he built something at la tech, the 3 years before he arrived they were 6-6, 7-4, 3-10... upon his arrival they went 5-7, 8-5, 4-8 so in a 3 year span he only won 1 game more. So if he would have lost 1 more game last year would they had fired him like the last coach?
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Kiffin wasn't anything better? At least Dooley has integrity and values. I mean La Tech isn't the easiest place to coach. So winning a bowl game there is pretty impressive IMO
 
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#175
Tidal Surge said:
Much better hire than Lil Lane. I think that if Dooley is given the time (4-5 years) that it takes to show what he can do and is well supported by UT's AD, Administration and fans he will succeed at a very high level consistently and will stay for the long haul.

Is there some risk of failure associated with this hire? Yes, but that's always the case. Jumping to the conclusion that UT made a second rate hire based on his W-L record at La Tech is just wrong. People who know what it takes to be a very good and ultimately great HC at UT in the SEC and know Derek Dooley also know that this is an excellent fit/hire for UT.
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As much as I hate to say this, this Bama fan is by far more logical than the majority of the VOL fans posting on here. It is refreshing to get a rational point of view as opposed to "Dooley sucks". What is next, "Coach Dooley is gay!", maybe throw a few momma jokes in there to look a tad bit more immature. I to hope he gets the support he deserves!
 
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