ESPN now making fun of us

#51
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First it was Chris Fowler and the mule comment. Then, over the years, they have made it major headlines out of something minor such as the "cheating scandle", blasted TN and kept the news popping about Fulmer and the Alabama saga-really played up that win in 05 and every team they feature that has played us they ALWAYS show that teams highlights against us. Now, this morning they were actually chuckling when talking about Gruden and the Tennessee fan base constantly talking his name and basically said Gruden coming here is a pipe dream!
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That would be because IT IS :yes: Not sure where everybody gets their info but Gruden is not going to be our coach, Granted I would love to have him here and am as big a Grudenite as any but realistically he is not coming here....UT fans are really setting themselves up for ridicule by being so obsessive about him.
 
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I agree with much of this except the assumption that UT can just go get whoever they want. Why is this assumed? Most of the elite players are going to leave for the NFL, UT plays Alabama,FLorida and Oregon on the road next year. The fanbase has proven with Fulmer and Dooley(deserved) that they will flip on a coach immediately. Im not sure the smartest coaches want to deal with that unless they get the kind of control it sounds like Hart will not give up.

ESPN is the one that looks bad. Before the first ball is ever kicked, they are picking a Heisman Winner and a National Champion. How many of these have they actually been correct on? Not too many. I was looking through Athlon's, Lindy's and Phil Steele(who by the way, I have regarded as the worst pre-season mag the past few years but have recently found him to be the most credible) Out of those three, Phil Steele is the only one who mentions Johnny Manziel. ESPN is a firetruckin' joke. They know it, we know it but for some reason, the big money doesn't have a clue. Let ESPN make the jokes, laugh at our expense and talk down to the fan base. Remember these times, and then, when Gameday comes around, put it on a poster and hold it up. There are ways to get back at these networks.

As Vols fans, the list of coaches you need to stay away from are Golden, Patterson, Briles (4 years ago you didn't have a clue who this cat was), Bob Stoops, and Charlie Strong. You can criticize all you want for this list but think about each and every name I just listed and give me 5 good reasons, without doing an internet search, as to why you would want any of them. Charlie Strong is a good coach at the level he is coaching at, but what makes you think he can replicate that in the SEC? Bob Stoops cannot win the big games any longer. He has target rich Texas, Oklahoma and the surrounding states and only recruits head cases at key positions. Art Briles...Not going into it. Patterson? He has a gimicky offense that may work for a minute in the SEC, but, it wouldn't last. Yes, he has won some big games, but when you play someone once in a bowl game and they don't expect your game plan, it will work. In the SEC, that will work week one, maybe week two, but week three, your a$$ is grass. The productivity will drop into the abyss and you will be calling for his head by week 7. This is the nature of the SEC. The running game is key, great defense is key and a balanced game plan is the key to winning. I know what has worked in the past with some teams, but when SEC teams figure out the unbalanced approach, teams adjust accordingly and win that battle.

The next question is: Who do you want? You want a coach that will be committed to the program for a number of years and a proven winner. What makes the Vols think they can't have anybody they want? If you want Gruden, then you will have Gruden. If you want a Brian Kelly, you will have a Brian Kelly (maybe not this year). If Hart is too stupid to set the standards high, you will always fall Dooley short. Don't go after a mid-major guy...this only worked out for Meyer and Kelly in recent years. Kevin Sumlin is having some short term success but as soon as the teams in the conference do their homework on Manziel, he will not be a factor. I saw someone mention Manny Diaz. This guy is off the charts but he has not had a good season with his defense this year. Is he an up and comer? Absolutely, but do you give him the keys to an elite program at this stage? Hell no. Kirby Smart? Yeah, on the surface, he appears to be a defensive mastermind, but none of us know how much control he has over the defense. We know that Saban is a control freak and with that said, he probably doesn't let these guys make serious calls on the field. His coordinators act as advisors, not coaches. Be careful what you wish for. You can look at a guy on paper and think he is the key to success, but in reality he is the main ingredient for failure.
 
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Troll because its a new account or I make sense and you do not like that?

New account....that comment....

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That would be because IT IS :yes: Not sure where everybody gets their info but Gruden is not going to be our coach, Granted I would love to have him here and am as big a Grudenite as any but realistically he is not coming here....UT fans are really setting themselves up for ridicule by being so obsessive about him.

WONT YOU BE IN FOR A RUDE SUPRISE!! LOL:eek:lol::pepper:
 
#56
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Ok, put on your tin foil hats.

Part of the TV deal ESPN made with the SEC, included the University of Tennessee further falling down the SEC pecking order.

ESPN does hate UT. Ever since we fired Johnny Majors.
 
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I agree with much of this except the assumption that UT can just go get whoever they want. Why is this assumed? Most of the elite players are going to leave for the NFL, UT plays Alabama,FLorida and Oregon on the road next year. The fanbase has proven with Fulmer and Dooley(deserved) that they will flip on a coach immediately. Im not sure the smartest coaches want to deal with that unless they get the kind of control it sounds like Hart will not give up.

As an Irish fan and Vol fan, I think UT can have whoever they want and just because the last few years has been dreadful doesn't mean that you can't have that great coach. After Alabama's coaching missteps, did you think they would land Saban? The only difference between TN and Bama are some National Titles...many of which, they don't even really have but it looks good on their Jeep wheel covers and T-shirts. The Vols are one of THE most storied programs in College Football history! Don't take away from that. They deserve to have the best coach because the fan base is one of the greatest.
 
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It is a pipe dream. They should be laughing at us.

It's almost as funny as throwing gatorade on Cheney after beating that stout Kentucky team to finish 5-7....surprised they haven't been showing that replay. They probably can't pay enough for Jefferson Pilot footage..:no:
 
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If you are so stupid that you think Golden will be lucky for Tennessee, then I bet you thought Dooloey was good for us too because they are basically the same person. Losers, both of them losers. What makes you think that all of a sudden coming to UT will make him a winner?

Golden may not be the right guy but he has proven more than Dooley had.

Golden turned Temple around. He was 27-34 there but improved every year. Averaging just under 7 wins per year isn't all that impressive unless you consider they won 27 games in the 13 years prior to his taking the job there. The 4 games he won in his first year there were as many as they had won in the previous 4 years combined.

I am not supporting anyone. Whoever UT gets will have pluses and minuses. I will try to be realistic about both. But Golden does not look like a "loser". Miami isn't exactly a choice job right now. He has pretty much the same circumstances with less talent that Kiffin has at USCe... and the same record this year.


I still wouldn't call UT "lucky" to get him. UT deserves a top shelf coach... maybe not some of the fans here... but Vols do.
 
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Chris Fowler has become a joke, a sort of caricature of himself. I don't think any self-respecting fan of college football takes that clown seriously.



edit: I say "has become" because, I'm sure at some point in his life (i.e. shortly after he was born), there was a chance that he wasn't a joke. All downhill from there.

He really is a joke...Everytime I see his ugly face, I think of the "trailer trash" remark...All of his so-called "apologizing" never affected me at all....
 
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I agree with much of this except the assumption that UT can just go get whoever they want. Why is this assumed? Most of the elite players are going to leave for the NFL, UT plays Alabama,FLorida and Oregon on the road next year. The fanbase has proven with Fulmer and Dooley(deserved) that they will flip on a coach immediately.
Fulmer deserved to be fired MORE than Dooley... and Dooley DID deserve to be fired. Fulmer is primarily responsible for creating this mess. It was his lack of discipline, sense of entitlement, and laziness that first ran the program into the ditch. Dooley just wasn't good enough to get it out of the ditch.

No coach worth the money is going to run from a difficult schedule or the players who might leave. They may and should be concerned about UT's recruiting liabilities but other than that it is a top tier program in every other facet.
Im not sure the smartest coaches want to deal with that unless they get the kind of control it sounds like Hart will not give up.
But somehow it was better when Dooley took the job with a completely decimated roster? If the job cannot command a great coach now then why are people so hateful toward Dooley for not being up to the task after taking over a train wreck?
 
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I dont think espn hate us.The Vols have been exceptionally bad recently and until we work our way back to respectability espn will continue to pick fun at our expense.As much as i dislike the negative crap espn says about the Vols,it is deserving of the product put on the field.Lets all hope as Vol fans Hart does his job and gets a proven winner,...not a proven losing coach,to bring us back to relevance.My vote is Gruden,..i know its a long shot but i think the way he can relate to kids,the recruits will flock here.Great personality goes a long way making the right impression.My second pick is Petrino.No i dont like him as a person,..but as a coach,..hell yeah.Just make sure Hart puts a 10 million dollar buyout clause and no "extra curricular" activities clause or he pays the school 10 million and we will be back on top in a hurry.Just my 2 cents :)
 
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First it was Chris Fowler and the mule comment. Then, over the years, they have made it major headlines out of something minor such as the "cheating scandle", blasted TN and kept the news popping about Fulmer and the Alabama saga-really played up that win in 05 and every team they feature that has played us they ALWAYS show that teams highlights against us. Now, this morning they were actually chuckling when talking about Gruden and the Tennessee fan base constantly talking his name and basically said Gruden coming here is a pipe dream!
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Probably because Gruden IS a pipedream
 
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Troll because its a new account or I make sense and you do not like that?

I am calling you a troll because you are saying we will be lucky enough to get Al Golden. Plus you are a newbie....sounds trollish to say that....it is what it is.
 
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#65
My feelings are super hurt. ESPN if you are reading this I hate you and I'm not sitting next to you at lunch tomorrow!!!
 
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#67
Don't forget that we were removed from the College Gameday theme song and even the video. I only watch ESPN, because they broadcast so many games.

I won't go as far as to say they hate us, but the evidence is there. I, too, have noticed the Team X vs Vols highlights. They even use opponent's highlights from games that we won. I don't care if ESPN hates us, but, if they do the feeling is mutual.

ESPN are the ultimate bandwagon jumpers. They cling on to whoever's hot at the time. They'll drop a team like a bad habit if they start losing just like they did us!
 
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Here we go again with the ESPN conspiracy theory. We have given them zero reason to respect us lately.
 
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Fulmer deserved to be fired MORE than Dooley... and Dooley DID deserve to be fired. Fulmer is primarily responsible for creating this mess. It was his lack of discipline, sense of entitlement, and laziness that first ran the program into the ditch. Dooley just wasn't good enough to get it out of the ditch.

No coach worth the money is going to run from a difficult schedule or the players who might leave. They may and should be concerned about UT's recruiting liabilities but other than that it is a top tier program in every other facet. But somehow it was better when Dooley took the job with a completely decimated roster? If the job cannot command a great coach now then why are people so hateful toward Dooley for not being up to the task after taking over a train wreck?


How did Fulmer get lazy? The guy just hired the wrong offensive coach and got fired for it before he could make a change. His recruiting classes were fine before he got fired. Usually top 10 in the country. The bad year in 08' he was fired. Don't act like he was a bad coach. And yes, the reason he is not coaching now is because schools don't like his age, and he was getting paid by us, not because he sucks.
 
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Al who? No heard of him. He carrys no prudentials for big time proven coach. Listen if tenn does not hire a proven i repeat a proven winning coach tenn will be set back another 10 years. This is a very serios situation..

Are you saying that he has no insurance?
 
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It is comical to really believe that Gruden is going to coach at a collegiate level. I hope most fans are not the unrealistic clowns that post on this site so they are not crushed when Tennessee is lucky enough to get someone like Al Golden.

If we are lucky enough to get Al Golden we'll be lucky enough to stay at the bottom of the SEC.....so much for being Lucky
 

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