First They Came for the Confederate Statues, Then they came for the...

[BigOrangeTrain]

"Sanitizing history" is pretending the Confederacy was a glorious movement worthy of statues, conveniently created right around the same time as the KKK and Jim Crow

Slavery, the KKK and Jim Crow all share something in common. Can you guess what?

 

[luthervol]

Slavery, the KKK and Jim Crow all share something in common. Can you guess what?

Things embraced by the conservative ideology of the time?

What do I win?

 

[FLVOL_79]

Things embraced by the conservative ideology of the time?

What do I win?

Nice try at deflection. The correct answer Luda is Democrats.

If your party is so obsessed with those statues and "White supremacy" you probably need to start with coming to terms with your own party and its hate history Hell, at least the Nazi party pretty much disappeared after their beating...

Next you should probably flip the main circuit breaker to your house. That would be a giant finger wag in the face of "White supremacy".

 

[FLVOL_79]

They probably don't vote but if they did it would almost certainly be blue. Just like every white supremacist racist would almost certainly vote red. We all know this.

I love how you people are trying to normalize White supremacists, like they are actually a thing. They aren't. The real "White supremacists" that have you cowering in cuckold fear don't exist in large numbers at all. You'll be ok.


Make sure to post some news articles about White supremacist racists looting and committing crimes during and after a natural disaster since they are such a huge problem right now. lol:

Oh and voting..how much of the prison population votes blue?...there seems to be a correlation there but I can't quite put my finger on it yet...:whistling:

 

[AirVol]

Free stuff unguarded!

Rescueing Jordan's are a thing with black folks.

 

[luthervol]

Nice try at deflection. The correct answer Luda is Democrats.

If your party is so obsessed with those statues and "White supremacy" you probably need to start with coming to terms with your own party and its hate history Hell, at least the Nazi party pretty much disappeared after their beating...

Next you should probably flip the main circuit breaker to your house. That would be a giant finger wag in the face of "White supremacy".

That's such a juvenile argument. Those were conservative ideologies that at one time had a home in the democratic party. That equivalent mindset today makes up the foundation of the republican party. Trying to portray it any differently just serves to show either a gross lack of understanding or complete dis ingeniousness.

Everybody has their own interpretation of what constitutes racism and you hover precariously close to the line of my interpretation. I try to give you the benefit of doubt but you make that increasingly difficult.

 

[luthervol]

I love how you people are trying to normalize White supremacists, like they are actually a thing. They aren't. The real "White supremacists" that have you cowering in cuckold fear don't exist in large numbers at all. You'll be ok.


Make sure to post some news articles about White supremacist racists looting and committing crimes during and after a natural disaster since they are such a huge problem right now. lol:

Oh and voting..how much of the prison population votes blue?...there seems to be a correlation there but I can't quite put my finger on it yet...:whistling:

Who is trying to normalize white supremacists? Quite the opposite.

The red voting looters are stilling pigs that escaped when the fence blew down, corn from a neighbor's crop, or the lawn couch that floated away from the trailer park. They're not as likely to be caught on tape by a news crew because they are so far removed from mainstream society.

What are the voting tendencies of the prison population? I'm guessing you have no idea, and your history with deductive reasoning skills gives one pause.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Things embraced by the conservative ideology of the time?

What do I win?

Nope. You are wrong as usual.

 

[FLVOL_79]

That's such a juvenile argument. Those were conservative ideologies that at one time had a home in the democratic party. That equivalent mindset today makes up the foundation of the republican party. Trying to portray it any differently just serves to show either a gross lack of understanding or complete dis ingeniousness.

Everybody has their own interpretation of what constitutes racism and you hover precariously close to the line of my interpretation. I try to give you the benefit of doubt but you make that increasingly difficult.

Probably the dumbest thing I've seen posted here since the last Highchair thread creation. You have the nerve to say someone else is disingenuous after typing that nonsense? :crazy: Maybe you should have some more coffee before posting in the morning...

So is that how you reconcile your parties history of hate and crimes against humanity? That the "ideology" just wafted over to the other party after, what...Johnson? No..Carter? Clinton? Obama. Yeah..After Obama right? Even if that was remotely based in reality the violent history of the Democrat party doesn't retroactively change to another party home slice.

Hell, thats like Manning going to Denver and then Denver being awarded the 2007 Superbowl...thats not how it works.

Until you guys can reconcile with your own parties history of hate, terror, and violence you'll always be full of hate. Stop the hate Luther. Love Trumps Hate!

And their own definition of racism? What other aspects of hate can we have our own definitions of? Rape? Battery? Pedophilia? Murda? :no:






:birgits_giggle:

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

They probably don't vote but if they did it would almost certainly be blue. Just like every white supremacist racist would almost certainly vote red. We all know this.

And just like every black racist would vote blue. We all know this.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Who is trying to normalize white supremacists? Quite the opposite.

The red voting looters are stilling pigs that escaped when the fence blew down, corn from a neighbor's crop, or the lawn couch that floated away from the trailer park. They're not as likely to be caught on tape by a news crew because they are so far removed from mainstream society.

What are the voting tendencies of the prison population? I'm guessing you have no idea, and your history with deductive reasoning skills gives one pause.

Lol. What the f###ing F###?

Yes. White Republicans only live on farms or in trailer parks..hahaha lol: lol:. Have you and Armchair been getting together on the weekends and spit balling loony ideas over a few dozen Zimas?

Why do I get this vibe you might not have stepped outside your house in the past 20-30 years...





Wait a second....are you medicated Armchair?? Is this like a Dr Jeckly/Mr.Hyde posting scenario rooted in mood stabilizers and non quantifiable amounts of self guilt?

 

[joevol320]

Bunch of kids riling up trouble. We've seen this movie a thousand times. Get over yourself. The fake hysteria from the right that this is some real threat to rewrite history is just terri-stupid.

Hey fool, those kids will be local, state, leaders someday. Just like yours sixties anti-American generation did. Except much worse

 

[joevol320]

Who is trying to normalize white supremacists? Quite the opposite.

The red voting looters are stilling pigs that escaped when the fence blew down, corn from a neighbor's crop, or the lawn couch that floated away from the trailer park. They're not as likely to be caught on tape by a news crew because they are so far removed from mainstream society.

What are the voting tendencies of the prison population? I'm guessing you have no idea, and your history with deductive reasoning skills gives one pause.

Luther, your moronic posts continue to impress

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Hey fool, those kids will be local, state, leaders someday. Just like yours sixties anti-American generation did. Except much worse

Lol. The hippies were the problem.

 

[zeppelin128]

The Civil War was absolutely about slavery, namely the balance of free and slave states represented in the Federal government. The South feared losing economic power and property, which were slave based plantations. To say it didn't come up until Lincoln made the Proclaimation is rewriting history.

The problem with Confederate statues is multi-fold:

1. They were mostly erected from the 1920s to the 1950s as an intimidation tool during Jim Crow. Same with the Confederate flag, which saw a resurgence of popularity during the same time period.

2. The idea of romanticizing the Old South also occurred during this time. The notion of the Lost Cause became prevalent in the South, especially among Southern historians, as a way to regain honor, further Jim Crow legislation, and simply attempt to rewrite history into the idea of the proud Southern man fighting for states' rights, which also played into the political trends at the time in the South. The idea of the Lost Cause still exists today in the South, as can be seen in this thread. It even plays into Republican politics, i.e. greater State control at the expense of the Federal government. Slavery is glossed over as a minor issue in the Lost Cause narrative, which is completely false.

3. The statues exist not to honor men, but to honor the Lost Cause. This is why they should be removed. They are rewritten history in stone.

4. The Confederacy, after all, was treason. Do we honor treason?

It isn't about rewriting history, it is about correcting it. There will be no widespread run on other historical statues. That is a ploy by the Right to further divide with fear-mongering scare tactics.

 

[FLVOL_79]

The Civil War was absolutely about slavery, namely the balance of free and slave states represented in the Federal government. The South feared losing economic power and property, which were slave based plantations. To say it didn't come up until Lincoln made the Proclaimation is rewriting history.

The problem with Confederate statues is multi-fold:

1. They were mostly erected from the 1920s to the 1950s as an intimidation tool during Jim Crow. Same with the Confederate flag, which saw a resurgence of popularity during the same time period.

2. The idea of romanticizing the Old South also occurred during this time. The notion of the Lost Cause became prevalent in the South, especially among Southern historians, as a way to regain honor, further Jim Crow legislation, and simply attempt to rewrite history into the idea of the proud Southern man fighting for states' rights, which also played into the political trends at the time in the South. The idea of the Lost Cause still exists today in the South, as can be seen in this thread. It even plays into Republican politics, i.e. greater State control at the expense of the Federal government. Slavery is glossed over as a minor issue in the Lost Cause narrative, which is completely false.

3. The statues exist not to honor men, but to honor the Lost Cause. This is why they should be removed. They are rewritten history in stone.

4. The Confederacy, after all, was treason. Do we honor treason?

It isn't about rewriting history, it is about correcting it. There will be no widespread run on other historical statues. That is a ploy by the Right to further divide with fear-mongering scare tactics.

Ask Obama.

 

[hog88]

The Civil War was absolutely about slavery, namely the balance of free and slave states represented in the Federal government. The South feared losing economic power and property, which were slave based plantations. To say it didn't come up until Lincoln made the Proclaimation is rewriting history.

The problem with Confederate statues is multi-fold:

1. They were mostly erected from the 1920s to the 1950s as an intimidation tool during Jim Crow. Same with the Confederate flag, which saw a resurgence of popularity during the same time period.

2. The idea of romanticizing the Old South also occurred during this time. The notion of the Lost Cause became prevalent in the South, especially among Southern historians, as a way to regain honor, further Jim Crow legislation, and simply attempt to rewrite history into the idea of the proud Southern man fighting for states' rights, which also played into the political trends at the time in the South. The idea of the Lost Cause still exists today in the South, as can be seen in this thread. It even plays into Republican politics, i.e. greater State control at the expense of the Federal government. Slavery is glossed over as a minor issue in the Lost Cause narrative, which is completely false.

3. The statues exist not to honor men, but to honor the Lost Cause. This is why they should be removed. They are rewritten history in stone.

4. The Confederacy, after all, was treason. Do we honor treason?

It isn't about rewriting history, it is about correcting it. There will be no widespread run on other historical statues. That is a ploy by the Right to further divide with fear-mongering scare tactics.

Actually the north feared that an increase in slave holding state representatives would end the unfair and disproportionate taxation and trade policies the south was subject to.

 

[AM64]

Ask Obama.

Sounds like he did ask Obama - at least about the rest of the drivel.

 

[AM64]

Actually the north feared that an increase in slave holding state representatives would end the unfair and disproportionate taxation and trade policies the south was subject to.

Yep, and some northern states were the first to consider secession and an alliance with Canada. The liberal interpretation of fact and history is a very tortured path through the world of sanity and reason.

 

[lawgator1]

Hey fool, those kids will be local, state, leaders someday. Just like yours sixties anti-American generation did. Except much worse

 

[midnight orange]

The Civil War was absolutely about slavery, namely the balance of free and slave states represented in the Federal government. The South feared losing economic power and property, which were slave based plantations. To say it didn't come up until Lincoln made the Proclaimation is rewriting history.

The problem with Confederate statues is multi-fold:

1. They were mostly erected from the 1920s to the 1950s as an intimidation tool during Jim Crow. Same with the Confederate flag, which saw a resurgence of popularity during the same time period.

2. The idea of romanticizing the Old South also occurred during this time. The notion of the Lost Cause became prevalent in the South, especially among Southern historians, as a way to regain honor, further Jim Crow legislation, and simply attempt to rewrite history into the idea of the proud Southern man fighting for states' rights, which also played into the political trends at the time in the South. The idea of the Lost Cause still exists today in the South, as can be seen in this thread. It even plays into Republican politics, i.e. greater State control at the expense of the Federal government. Slavery is glossed over as a minor issue in the Lost Cause narrative, which is completely false.

3. The statues exist not to honor men, but to honor the Lost Cause. This is why they should be removed. They are rewritten history in stone.

4. The Confederacy, after all, was treason. Do we honor treason?

It isn't about rewriting history, it is about correcting it. There will be no widespread run on other historical statues. That is a ploy by the Right to further divide with fear-mongering scare tactics.

Yes and no. Slavery was probably the number one reason some states seceded. (Others seceded after Ft. Sumter. The north invaded the south over tax collections. The north and Mr.Lincoln didn't care about slavery. Lincoln was against popular sovereignty only because slave states had more power due to the 3/5 voter for slaves. Lincoln would be considered today a white supremacist. Lincoln was never morally opposed to slavery. Also four slave states remained in the union (Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky, and Missouri).

 

[UT_Dutchman]

She's so hot!

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

She's so hot!

Especially in Book of Eli

 

[Grand Vol]

Then they came for the schools...

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/edu...mpuses-require-research-possible-name-changes

Dallas ISD is researching the histories of Ben Franklin, Sam Houston, Thomas Jefferson and 17 other historical figures, looking into whether their connections with slavery or the Confederacy should prompt reconsideration of their names on DISD campuses.

Last Thursday, DISD administration recommended changing the names of four schools honoring Confederate generals: Stonewall Jackson, Robert E. Lee, Albert Sidney Johnston and William L. Cabell elementary schools. During that discussion, it was mentioned that there is a much broader list of at least 21 names that bear further investigation, if trustees were compelled to do so.

"This was just a very quick review of looking at the biographies of the individuals," DISD chief of school leadership Stephanie Elizalde told trustees on Sept. 14. "And if there was any association with Confederacy — not making a judgment for or against — just if we saw Confederacy named in it, we then highlighted it. We are now in the process of doing a second [look]."

The Dallas Morning News has obtained a copy of that list, which includes Texas revolutionaries and founders such as Sam Houston, James Bowie and William Travis, U.S. presidents Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, and Dallas pioneers James Gaston and William Brown Miller.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Then they came for the schools...

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/edu...mpuses-require-research-possible-name-changes

Benjamin Franklin?......this ridiculous **** is out of control...we're heading rapidly down the path towards president Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho