For the complaining fans...

#101
#101
UT IE 95 said:
I called coach out for sitting on the bench like an assistant. It's nice to see him up, working the sideline giving instruction. But regardless of how he worked the sideline yesterday, how does that make me wrong for pointing out a lack of it weeks ago? Failed call-out thread? Nice.
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He's been off the bench far more than he has sit there. That's a fact

You're wrong in that you made a knee-jerk assessment based on something you saw over one game.
 
#102
#102
OrangeBalls said:
Because I think it's absurd to say Martin's supposed increased intensity on the sideline is the reason the team is playing better. It has more to do with them getting his system and learning to play together than Martin standing on the sideline being a cheerleader. I like a coach to get into it, but if he has done his job in practice, it doesn't matter how he acts on the sideline. As long as he adjusts during the game and has the team prepared is what matters.
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I haven't seen anyone say it was THE reason. I just see a couple of you arguing that it's not, THE reason.

Anyway. No big deal.
 
#103
#103
calban said:
And maybe he's one of those few gifted coaches that knows how to start his team peaking at the right time of the year by increasing his intensity on the sideline.
If some say he's more intense, I'll accept it.
Maybe they're just showing him on camera more now. What ever is happening, it's working.
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Bingo!

whatever ccm is doing the last 3 games, and whatever trae, skylar, jordan and kenny have been eating the last 3 games, keep it up. dont change a thing.
 
#104
#104
Also, don't forget that we have beaten Auburn, UGA and USCjr along with Fla. 3 of those are bottom feeders and Fla doesn't play a lick of defense. If we can play well against Ark and at Bama and LSU then we'll know if the team has taken the next step. This is still a fairly inexperienced team that is still learning along the way. Don't be surprised if they drop one they shouldn't in the last few weeks.
 
#105
#105
Spartacavolus said:
I haven't seen anyone say it was THE reason. I just see a couple of you arguing that it's not, THE reason.

Anyway. No big deal.
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I don't ever think it's the reason. A coach can motivate his team, but they still have to buy in and execute the game plan. I wondered how these players would respond to a guy as low key as Martin when they had a guy that was a ball of energy like Pearl. If they were unmotivated, he could usually get them motivated. So far, the guys seem to have bought in. Maybe it'll change in a few years when some of them settle in and the newness wears off and they know how he is and he'll have to do something to motivate them. Hopefully, by then our talent level will have increased.
 
#106
#106
This talk about CM and how animated he has been throughout the year is interesting. To me I see it this way. IF CM has gotten more animated during recent games the reason would be this IMO:

He realized that earlier in the year that the kids didn't completely understand or trust in what he was selling. IMO he had to talk softly in some ways to insure that the kids stayed the course. He now feels that they can handle a little more "coaching" because they have tasted some success.

All good coaches know when they can step on the gas peddle and when they need to be more relaxed. IMO we have seen that this year.
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#107
#107
I sat behind the game for Chattanooga. He was always talking, always into the game.

I don't buy this. Coach Martin looks the same from the first game. Except with an occasional fist bump or two more. That's about it. So maybe he's a tad bit more intense.

But IE basically saying all Martin did was sit on his ass did nothing is absolutely stupid, as he implied.
 
#108
#108
2ironVol said:
He's been off the bench far more than he has sit there. That's a fact

You're wrong in that you made a knee-jerk assessment based on something you saw over one game.
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One game? My anger peaked at the midpoint of the season against Memphis when we got laughed at and punched in the mouth and did nothing. Martin sat on the bench and watched our team get embarrassed.

A tussle broke out and Pastner was sprinting off the sideline. Martin wasn't even on his feet.

Martin has been a sit and watch coach. The game against Florida was easily the most active I've seen him in coaching the guys up possession by possession.
 
#109
#109
UT IE 95 said:
One game? My anger peaked at the midpoint of the season against Memphis when we got laughed at and punched in the mouth and did nothing. Martin sat on the bench and watched our team get embarrassed.

A tussle broke out and Pastner was sprinting off the sideline. Martin wasn't even on his feet.

Martin has been a sit and watch coach. The game against Florida was easily the most active I've seen him in coaching the guys up possession by possession.
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Memphis....

Same game you claimed "goodbye cuonzo" right?
 
#110
#110
bleedingTNorange said:
Memphis....

Same game you claimed "goodbye cuonzo" right?
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The exact one. If the product and results didn't change Martin should have been fired after the season. As a UT fan and alumnus, the Memphis game was an embarrassment cherry on top of the other bad loses and ridiculous coaching decisions.

College basketball isn't a "let's give him time" sport. It's a results now sport. That is tough for the Martin blind-backers to understand, but it is what it is. I'm glad the team is starting to play better and finding an identity. The days of letting a coach flounder for years is over at UT, we should expect more.
 
#111
#111
UT IE 95 said:
The exact one. If the product and results didn't change Martin should have been fired after the season. As a UT fan and alumnus, the Memphis game was an embarrassment cherry on top of the other bad loses and ridiculous coaching decisions.

College basketball isn't a "let's give him time" sport. It's a results now sport. That is tough for the Martin blind-backers to understand, but it is what it is. I'm glad the team is starting to play better and finding an identity. The days of letting a coach flounder for years is over at UT, we should expect more.
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So, after about halfway through the season, you think a fair assessment could already be made? Again, that's absurd just like your fire Cuonzo thread.

Be honest. You live in Memphis and knew you were going to catch sh*t from Tiger High fans about the loss to Tiger High so you were angry and lashed out.

Thank God you don't make decisions in the AD.
 
#112
#112
UT IE 95 said:
The exact one. If the product and results didn't change Martin should have been fired after the season. As a UT fan and alumnus, the Memphis game was an embarrassment cherry on top of the other bad loses and ridiculous coaching decisions.

College basketball isn't a "let's give him time" sport. It's a results now sport. That is tough for the Martin blind-backers to understand, but it is what it is. I'm glad the team is starting to play better and finding an identity. The days of letting a coach flounder for years is over at UT, we should expect more.
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So should we have fired pearl immediately after he lost to a d2 team in Indianapolis? I'll take the Memphis loss ANYDAY before losing to a good HS team, that is EMBARASSING.

You give the guy a chance before you jump and say goodbye. Atleast give him till the end of the season before calling for his head, if you'd have done that you wouldn't be saying goodbye cuonzo would you?
 
#113
#113
OrangeBalls said:
So, after about halfway through the season, you think a fair assessment could already be made? Again, that's absurd just like your fire Cuonzo thread.

Be honest. You live in Memphis and knew you were going to catch sh*t from Tiger High fans about the loss to Tiger High so you were angry and lashed out.

Thank God you don't make decisions in the AD.
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If we took this guys method of hiring/firing coaches we would be paying out to so many coaches it wouldn't be funny. One they had a bad loss by mid season they'd be out the door?

Funny thing I remember coach k having some ugly losses in his first years, even had a losing record in his first 3 years at duke. Good thing he's not the ad there, coach k would have been gone a long time ago.
 
#114
#114
Is there an ignore thread function for mobile devices? I can find it on my PC but not my phone.
 
#116
#116
UT IE 95 said:
One game? My anger peaked at the midpoint of the season against Memphis when we got laughed at and punched in the mouth and did nothing. Martin sat on the bench and watched our team get embarrassed.

A tussle broke out and Pastner was sprinting off the sideline. Martin wasn't even on his feet.

Martin has been a sit and watch coach. The game against Florida was easily the most active I've seen him in coaching the guys up possession by possession.
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Jeff van gundy hung onto alonzos leg like a humping dog. So what if CM had a tame reaction to a fracus. That would actually be considered a positive by many people. He didn't need to get involved and didn't.
You are correct in your assessment of his recent coaching adjustments.
 
#117
#117
OrangeBalls said:
So, after about halfway through the season, you think a fair assessment could already be made? Again, that's absurd just like your fire Cuonzo thread.

Be honest. You live in Memphis and knew you were going to catch sh*t from Tiger High fans about the loss to Tiger High so you were angry and lashed out.

Thank God you don't make decisions in the AD.
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The problem wasn't that we lost to Memphis. It was the team quitting that was the problem.
 
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#118
#118
bleedingTNorange said:
So should we have fired pearl immediately after he lost to a d2 team in Indianapolis? I'll take the Memphis loss ANYDAY before losing to a good HS team, that is EMBARASSING.

You give the guy a chance before you jump and say goodbye. Atleast give him till the end of the season before calling for his head, if you'd have done that you wouldn't be saying goodbye cuonzo would you?
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I'm not sure of your point. Pearl was fired.

If the first 15 games are a sample of the product, the assessment would be it sucked. Cut your loses and move on rather than wait for Buzz ball 2.0.

Martin has taken a more aggressive role with managing the game. The results are better. I hope the improvements continue. I'm not convinced, but it's hard to argue against the winning streak.
 
#119
#119
UT IE 95 said:
I'm not sure of your point. Pearl was fired.

If the first 15 games are a sample of the product, the assessment would be it sucked. Cut your loses and move on rather than wait for Buzz ball 2.0.

Martin has taken a more aggressive role with managing the game. The results are better. I hope the improvements continue. I'm not convinced, but it's hard to argue against the winning streak.
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you had said you would have fired martin after the loss to memphis. so by that same theory, im saying you would have fired pearl immediately after the emabarassing loss that we suffered against indianapolis.

if it was up to you, you would have wanted martin fired after the memphis game and not have even gave him a shot to get to where they are now.

yet now you are saying you cant argue with the result of the current winning streak.

do you see what im saying. you have got to give a coach more than 15 games to implement a system and show what he can do. if we judged every coach by their first 15 games, we would never keep anybody.

i dont even see how that is realistic of you to say, that after 15 games you would have ousted martin. you have got to have some patience, im not asking that after 3 or 4 years you remain complacent, but damn give the guy til atleast the end of the season to prove himself.
 
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#120
#120
UT IE 95 said:
The exact one. If the product and results didn't change Martin should have been fired after the season. As a UT fan and alumnus, the Memphis game was an embarrassment cherry on top of the other bad loses and ridiculous coaching decisions.

College basketball isn't a "let's give him time" sport. It's a results now sport. That is tough for the Martin blind-backers to understand, but it is what it is. I'm glad the team is starting to play better and finding an identity. The days of letting a coach flounder for years is over at UT, we should expect more.
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Dear. God.
 
#122
#122
i am really curious who this guy would actually accept as a coach, and would keep here?

i dont know anyone who fits this guys description. wanting NO bad losses in the first 15 games, seriously?

never wants to see a team quit on the floor, if they do the coach should be fired!
 
#123
#123
bleedingTNorange said:
i am really curious who this guy would actually accept as a coach, and would keep here?

i dont know anyone who fits this guys description. wanting NO bad losses in the first 15 games, seriously?

never wants to see a team quit on the floor, if they do the coach should be fired!
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I'll never accept a team quitting. Period.
 
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