Game Thread Lady Vols vs South Carolina

#451
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I wonder who is watching Courtney Williams of USF? That's a star player who coach knows is his star and he lets her play her game and the rest of the players rally around her which in tune makes them/the team looks better
 
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armchair said:
Let me clarify one point about DeShields: I have no problem with her "doing her thing" if her thing is playing good basketball--making shots and making good passes-- and being an enthusiastic leader of the team. She has done her "thing" in most games this year, contrary to what lindsay says--and her thing has been bad---very poor shooting and lots of turnovers. If doing your "thing" is 5-15 shooting and 7 TOs, then the coaches are not going to let you continue to do your thing. That is why DeShields no longer starts.

Is she the most talented offensive player we have? In terms of her skill set, absolutely. We need her to be active and take shots and make passes--but we need good results. It's all about results. You have to make shots, you have to make good passes and not turnovers, you have to work hard on defense, and you have to make good decisions. In the third quarter, she makes a basket and than commits an absolutely stupid foul at the midcourt line, her third, and has to sit down. She's been going that kind of "thing" all year. DD seems soft to me--no mental toughness. We have so totally lost our mental toughness. We don't have it in our coaches and we don't have it in our players. A player like Diana Taurasi would laugh at DD---difference between a great player and totally tough vs. someone who is not. No smarts, no toughness: Welcome to UT basketball.
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Amazing how Diamond shoots 7-17, scores 21 points, and yet this loss is her fault for not doing more.

Khadija Sessions, not known for her offense, was a better PG than Jordan, Andraya, and Te'a COMBINED...but it's Diamond's fault?

If Diamond had quality teammates, she wouldn't feel the need to do everything herself. Bashaara and Mercedes are her only teammates that have been even remotely consistent this year. Say what you will about the team and coaching, but those three have been the by far the best players for the team.
 
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armchair said:
Let me clarify one point about DeShields: I have no problem with her "doing her thing" if her thing is playing good basketball--making shots and making good passes-- and being an enthusiastic leader of the team. She has done her "thing" in most games this year, contrary to what lindsay says--and her thing has been bad---very poor shooting and lots of turnovers. If doing your "thing" is 5-15 shooting and 7 TOs, then the coaches are not going to let you continue to do your thing. That is why DeShields no longer starts.

Is she the most talented offensive player we have? In terms of her skill set, absolutely. We need her to be active and take shots and make passes--but we need good results. It's all about results. You have to make shots, you have to make good passes and not turnovers, you have to work hard on defense, and you have to make good decisions. In the third quarter, she makes a basket and than commits an absolutely stupid foul at the midcourt line, her third, and has to sit down. She's been going that kind of "thing" all year. DD seems soft to me--no mental toughness. We have so totally lost our mental toughness. We don't have it in our coaches and we don't have it in our players. A player like Diana Taurasi would laugh at DD---difference between a great player and totally tough vs. someone who is not. No smarts, no toughness: Welcome to UT basketball.
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You make valid points. I think if Tennessee ran an offense and practiced offensive execution, players would know when to take good shots and where to be at on the court during each possession.
 
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armchair said:
Let me clarify one point about DeShields: I have no problem with her "doing her thing" if her thing is playing good basketball--making shots and making good passes-- and being an enthusiastic leader of the team. She has done her "thing" in most games this year, contrary to what lindsay says--and her thing has been bad---very poor shooting and lots of turnovers. If doing your "thing" is 5-15 shooting and 7 TOs, then the coaches are not going to let you continue to do your thing. That is why DeShields no longer starts.

Is she the most talented offensive player we have? In terms of her skill set, absolutely. We need her to be active and take shots and make passes--but we need good results. It's all about results. You have to make shots, you have to make good passes and not turnovers, you have to work hard on defense, and you have to make good decisions. In the third quarter, she makes a basket and than commits an absolutely stupid foul at the midcourt line, her third, and has to sit down. She's been going that kind of "thing" all year. DD seems soft to me--no mental toughness. We have so totally lost our mental toughness. We don't have it in our coaches and we don't have it in our players. A player like Diana Taurasi would laugh at DD---difference between a great player and totally tough vs. someone who is not. No smarts, no toughness: Welcome to UT basketball.
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Diamond pouts too much and hangs her head when she makes mistakes. I can understand that, but everybody makes mistakes, even the great ones. However she did that at UNC as well, but she was amazing there. I don't know what's going on with her at Tenn., unless it's the coach. I've seen her look not exactly pleased with Warlick in some huddles. After this game, I bet she wished she'd transferred to SC, I know I would. I think their system is better for her than the Lady Vols.
 
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WVU05UT09 said:
Does anyone know if the @delinodeshields Twitter account is really him? If so the wall appears to be coming down.
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Yeah that's him haha


My guess for this off season truly guesses

Diamond leaves to go play pro ball

Nared transfers back to the state of Oregon to play OSU maybe

Dunbar transfers back to a midwest school

Middleton transfers home to MTSU (Becomes a stud)

Jones- Gives up playing basketball...starts her work life since she has already graduated

I could also see MeMe transfer to MTSU would not surprise me
 
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It does seem like we're at the point where we either stop the bleeding or take a bad turn for the worse.
 
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I am very worried about everyone this team possible transferring, we might just have a team full of walkons next season.
 
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LadyVol1908 said:
Some guy on Facebook just said that there are two underclassmen that played tonight that won't be here next year (didn't name them).....I know it's just rumors but I wouldn't doubt it!
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I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't Cooper, DeShields and maybe Dunbar. Could you blame any of them? I know Cooper is very close to her father. He coached Diamond and Te'a in AAU. They look way better than how they look now. I know he can't be happy.
 
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Vols4life said:
Yeah that's him haha


My guess for this off season truly guesses

Diamond leaves to go play pro ball

Nared transfers back to the state of Oregon to play OSU maybe

Dunbar transfers back to a midwest school

Middleton transfers home to MTSU (Becomes a stud)

Jones- Gives up playing basketball...starts her work life since she has already graduated

I could also see MeMe transfer to MTSU would not surprise me
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If Diamond leaves Te'a leaves also
 
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I remember Holly making a comment a couple of years ago and looking back on it, it really underscores why this team is so inept on offense. She said something to the effect of players coming out of high school are really mainly focused on their offensive game and much less focused on the defensive part of it and she has to spend most of her time teaching them how to play defense. Makes me wonder if she just doesn't even bother coaching any kind of offensive scheme or plays and just sticks with defense. She's already admitted a few times that they don't even practice any kind of offense.
 
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Coffy73 said:
Diamond pouts too much and hangs her head when she makes mistakes. I can understand that, but everybody makes mistakes, even the great ones. However she did that at UNC as well, but she was amazing there. I don't know what's going on with her at Tenn., unless it's the coach. I've seen her look not exactly pleased with Warlick in some huddles. After this game, I bet she wished she'd transferred to SC, I know I would. I think their system is better for her than the Lady Vols.
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I bet you Kaela Davis and family is somewhere smiling. SC will be even better next season with the addition of Davis and Gray.
 
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boxerpupsrcool said:
That is his real account, I follow him on twitter. That's the first I've seen him unload on holly like that, not that she doesn't deserve it. he makes good points, which is what a bunch of us have already noticed for awhile now and it's also what the recruits are noticing
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We don't have any recruits. It's sad
 
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VOL720 said:
I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't Cooper, DeShields and maybe Dunbar. Could you blame any of them? I know Cooper is very close to her father. He coached Diamond and Te'a in AAU. They look way better than how they look now. I know he can't be happy.
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It won't be Carter or Reynolds, because they will get the lion's share of minutes no matter how little they contribute to the team.

This team will never be a top 10 team when their starting backcourt is worse than 90% of the teams they play. Everyone knew that they would be the weak link of the team, yet, they are the backcourt players that are getting the most minutes.
 
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Russell played 37 minutes tonight, score 5 points. Someone started another thread and made the point that she is playing too many minutes. I think it's true--she does not have the stamina or the talent to play 27 minutes, much less 37.

Nia Moore, FYI, played 6 minutes and had 4 points.

Last game we all saw Nared's potential to be a good/very good player. Tonight we saw what she's been most of the year--not very good. 4 turnovers and 2 points. Does not yet have an offensive identity, which applies to just about all of our players.
 
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They just said at half-time of the South Florida/Louisville game that South Carolina is the First team since Auburn in the 1980's to beat Tennessee there straight games. The changing of the guard seems to be almost complete.
 
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#469
Bye bye AP 25! Wilson owned Mercedes tonight....played her like a fiddle. Dunbar.....don't even get me started on that tragedy. For God's sake, Holly has got to go! This is getting embarrassing!
 
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If Diamond does transfer, does she have to sit out another year?? I just don't see her wanting to sit another year..Maybe she does go pro....
 
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boxerpupsrcool said:
I remember Holly making a comment a couple of years ago and looking back on it, it really underscores why this team is so inept on offense. She said something to the effect of players coming out of high school are really mainly focused on their offensive game and much less focused on the defensive part of it and she has to spend most of her time teaching them how to play defense. Makes me wonder if she just doesn't even bother coaching any kind of offensive scheme or plays and just sticks with defense. She's already admitted a few times that they don't even practice any kind of offense.
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Holly is only quoting what Pat Summitt has said for years. I don't even watch her interviews or post game pressers because it leaves you scratching your head. She is clueless and I hope this is her last season.
 
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volmania8 said:
They just said at half-time of the South Florida/Louisville game that South Carolina is the First team since Auburn in the 1980's to beat Tennessee there straight games. The changing of the guard seems to be almost complete.
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I think that train has come and gone. Unless they do something big in the NCAA tournament, there is a high likelihood that they will be unranked at the start of next season. If they are unranked with Graves, they will be considered even weaker without her next season.
 
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boxerpupsrcool said:
If Diamond does transfer, does she have to sit out another year?? I just don't see her wanting to sit another year..Maybe she does go pro....
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I would just do like Epiphany Prince and just go pro. She's got the skills and I just don't think Tenn. is a good place for her, mentally and development wise. I wouldn't want to go somewhere else and sit out another year.
 
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