Gatlinburg Being Evacuated

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salutethehill said:
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Nice!
 
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VolnJC said:
It's devastating but it could have been so much worse without the rain and the hard work of the first responders...it could have literally been leveled

Alright, gang- I just got out of Gatlinburg about 20 minutes ago. Aquarium is safe. Looks like it will stay that way. Park Vista and Arrowmont (short of 3 buildings on the back side of campus that were destroyed) are untouched- I'll attach proof of life. I'm not sure who's putting word out that Ober is a total loss.. it's a total miss. So much so, they eventually opened up to take folks in, which greatly alleviated the number of people we had to try to navigate down Ski mtn road. Chalet Village, however- I'd say is 90-95% gone, once you start up Cliff Branch and beyond. Cobbly Nob has really taken it on the chin, too. I snapped what I could- if I haven't mentioned a particular area, I honestly have no idea what the status is.
Really hope the reports thus far of zero fatalities is accurate. If true, that's seriously a miracle in and of itself.

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Where I spent my honeymoon first time...parents live 10 miles from there. Grand parents 20 miles.wow
 
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SigSaurP228 said:
We did. It helped tremendously. Our first good soaking rain since 07/05.

Things are looking up.
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It's still raining hard here in N Knox County. I hope you guys see what we're getting. I wonder if there will be enough to totally extinguish the flames?

Looking at radar it appears much more on the way. Seems to be sliding east.
 
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If it rains like it has in Oak Ridge most of the morning I'd have to think the worry would shift from fire to mudslides and flooding.

Hopefully its enough to finish off any hot spots but not enough to cause other issues.


Side note, the rumors people keep spreading about this drive me insane. Guy at work showed me a picture of some ambulances lined up and swears they are hushing up "dozens and dozens" of fatalities. Who even starts that nonsense?
 
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I'm assuming the city is still basically shut down? I have a cabin rented this weekend but I have no idea if it's is intact or not. I don't want to be an ass and keep bugging the rental company. I know they have a lot going on personal and business wise. I do however want to know if we are still expected to come or if we will get reimbursed.
 
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TDTennessee said:
I'm assuming the city is still basically shut down? I have a cabin rented this weekend but I have no idea if it's is intact or not. I don't want to be an ass and keep bugging the rental company. I know they have a lot going on personal and business wise. I do however want to know if we are still expected to come or if we will get reimbursed.
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Does not seem unreasonable IMO. Not sure you will still want to go though given the circumstances.
 
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BruiserVol said:
I'm a firefighter/emr in middle tn. We haven't been called yet but have been told we are more than likely being sent out soon to relieve some of the crews there.
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I am too, been told the same thing. I've had a bag packed for the last 24 hours.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Will this rain not be enough to totally extinguish all the fires?
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Rain will definitely help prevent spread. What is already on fire will most likely continue to burn, and can creep. The radiant heat from the edges can dry out unburned fuel in front of it.

For fire to be extinguished, the gallons per minute (of water) must overwhelm the BTUs of the fire.

In other words, big fire needs big water.

Hope that helps explain.
 
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AndyW said:
Rain will definitely help prevent spread. What is already on fire will most likely continue to burn, and can creep. The radiant heat from the edges can dry out unburned fuel in front of it.

For fire to be extinguished, the gallons per minute (of water) must overwhelm the BTUs of the fire.

In other words, big fire needs big water.

Hope that helps explain.
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Not only that but there may be power lines down on some of those tiny mountain roads...I remember, back when I did house inspections on the side, coming around the corner after a storm up there and driving over a downed line..thought for sure that I was dead.
 
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TDTennessee said:
I'm assuming the city is still basically shut down? I have a cabin rented this weekend but I have no idea if it's is intact or not. I don't want to be an ass and keep bugging the rental company. I know they have a lot going on personal and business wise. I do however want to know if we are still expected to come or if we will get reimbursed.
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Good luck, but I wouldn't plan on making it. And this is a complete guess of what is about to happen, but after the fires are extinguished, more than likely there will have to be a search for victims/bodies through the debris of the houses, cabins, structures, and even the woods, etc. And someone correct me if I'm wrong, but when the USAR teams go in and search, I think it had to be gone over 3 times for FEMA to say it's been searched/checked off. This is a long way from being over, imo.
 
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jhamilton1208 said:
Good luck, but I wouldn't plan on making it. And this is a complete guess of what is about to happen, but after the fires are extinguished, more than likely there will have to be a search for victims/bodies through the debris of the houses, cabins, structures, and even the woods, etc. And someone correct me if I'm wrong, but when the USAR teams go in and search, I think it had to be gone over 3 times for FEMA to say it's been searched/checked off. This is a long way from being over, imo.
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Would this be like shutting down Gatlinburg for over a month? wonder how many hotels aren't damaged physically but have severe smoke damage from the wildfire. this will have a major impact for awhile. If lots of those hotels are down for awhile. thats lots of conventions that have to be canceled and everything. wonder if the state will step in with major resources financially for those families who have lost everything
 
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TDTennessee said:
I'm assuming the city is still basically shut down? I have a cabin rented this weekend but I have no idea if it's is intact or not. I don't want to be an ass and keep bugging the rental company. I know they have a lot going on personal and business wise. I do however want to know if we are still expected to come or if we will get reimbursed.
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What cabin rental company?
 
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RollinVol said:
Would this be like shutting down Gatlinburg for over a month? wonder how many hotels aren't damaged physically but have severe smoke damage from the wildfire. this will have a major impact for awhile. If lots of those hotels are down for awhile. thats lots of conventions that have to be canceled and everything. wonder if the state will step in with major resources financially for those families who have lost everything
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I don't think it will be "shut down" for a month, but there's going to be a lot going on. As far as specifics, no clue. Outside looking in so to speak.
 
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The trend that I have seen cabin rental company wise lately is to push things of on Trip insurance which is a scam in and of itself.

If it were me I would call my credit card company see if they have travel protection. Depending on the rental company two of the large ones up here no longer give refunds.
 
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AndyW said:
Rain will definitely help prevent spread. What is already on fire will most likely continue to burn, and can creep. The radiant heat from the edges can dry out unburned fuel in front of it.

For fire to be extinguished, the gallons per minute (of water) must overwhelm the BTUs of the fire.

In other words, big fire needs big water.

Hope that helps explain.
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So a rain this significant will not be enough to totally put the fires out? If so, wow.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
He says see my list and types N.V which has to be Nevada.

Im like you something isn't right here. I have a friend in the Knoxville FBI office I will give a call to tomorrow.
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I just read both of the persons' comments below the article and the results of the research you and VolAllen did - I agree - something isn't right. I'm glad you have a friend in the FBI office you can report this to.
 
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SmokinBob said:
I just read both of the persons' comments below the article and the results of the research y'all did - I agree - something isn't right. I'm glad you have a friend in the FBI office you can report this to.
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I haven't had time this morning to dig deeper, but I probably will tonight. That person knows something, I just want to know who that person is. I bet Cindee Mayfield knows who it is...
 
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VolAllen said:
I haven't had time this morning to dig deeper, but I probably will tonight. That person knows something, I just want to know who that person is. I bet Cindee Mayfield knows who it is...
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I found numerous stories about her taking children and even read the comments at the bottom of the stories and never came across someone not using their name or spelling like that.

My Knoxville guy is on vacation but as soon as I get everything in one place wrote down im just calling the Mendocino police office directly.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
So a rain this significant will not be enough to totally put the fires out? If so, wow.
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Without being there to see it with my own eyes, I can't really tell. It depends on how hot the fires are burning. Winds are also a major factor.

I have fought many structure fires in pouring rain/storms that precipitation made no difference whatsoever. The amount of heat they generate is too much for rain to overcome.

Significant rainfall will definitely help prevent spread, but extinguishment is another story.
 
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