Grand jury seated and investigating Trump

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clarksvol00 said:
He's claimed he's been through an IRS audit, but this is New York, there could be different issues. From what I've seen this could be related to deflating the value of property for state property tax and insurance purposes while inflating the value for banking/loan purposes. If this is true, it could be a state issue. I'm not saying it did or didn't happen, but that's the distinction. The bank and insurance fraud could be federal issues, but that doesn't mean there aren't state issues as well.
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If Trump is dumb enough to be caught on record directing his people to lie to the banks then his ass will roast. Doubt he was that dumb. He may have said things like "get the deal done no matter what." But that not illegal.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I read an article earlier that he has basically been under continual audit for years. That is the basis for my comment.

And yes. It is absolutely banana republic to go after a political rival solely on political motivation. I don’t care that the rival is Trump but he is the target patsy for these political prosecutions. These were all previously reviewed issues that were reopened in 2018 by the state of NY to get around the federal tax records not being released. It’s laughable to claim it’s anything other than political.
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Your two paragraphs conflict.

He has been under audits for years.
But also it's only because of his politics.....
 
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volfanhill said:
If Trump is dumb enough to be caught on record directing his people to lie to the banks then his ass will roast. Doubt he was that dumb. He may have said things like "get the deal done no matter what." But that not illegal.
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You're right to some extent, but I'm speculating on what the charges might be to start with. We also have no idea what he may or might not have signed regarding valuations, etc in the loan process as CEO of the Trump Organizarion.
 
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LouderVol said:
Your two paragraphs conflict.

He has been under audits for years.
But also it's only because of his politics.....
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No... I read comments that he had ongoing audits that was one story. This all started in 2018 as an end around the federal taxes not being released.
 
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volfanhill said:
If Trump is dumb enough to be caught on record directing his people to lie to the banks then his ass will roast. Doubt he was that dumb. He may have said things like "get the deal done no matter what." But that not illegal.
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On that I agree. I’d he was a stupid criminal fry him that’s natural selection.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
Not sure. Don't care right now. There are no posts of mine that suggest otherwise. His tax returns to the IRS and financial statements to the banks need to coincide with one another or there will be some issues
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I’m sure you’ve got him this time. If not there’s always next time. Then next time. Then...
 
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clarksvol00 said:
You're right to some extent, but I'm speculating on what the charges might be to start with. We also have no idea what he may or might not have signed regarding valuations, etc in the loan process as CEO of the Trump Organizarion.
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He didn't sign a thing with regard to loan documents I can promise you that. I have no problem with people being held accountable for what they do. And if Trump and co broke the law then so be it. I have a serious problem with solely politically motivated investigations. That's a far bigger issue then what Trump may or may not have done. And I know the Dems will cry hard when the tables are turned. Which they will be bc that's how all of this works.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
No it isn’t however the bank did issue the loan. Why was it suddenly important in 2018?
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A crime is a crime that can be prosecuted until the statute of limitations runs. Sometimes new evidence comes to light. I think there were some accusations from former Trump associates at some point in the last few years.

 
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volfanhill said:
He didn't sign a thing with regard to loan documents I can promise you that. I have no problem with people being held accountable for what they do. And if Trump and co broke the law then so be it. I have a serious problem with solely politically motivated investigations. That's a far bigger issue then what Trump may or may not have done. And I know the Dems will cry hard when the tables are turned. Which they will be bc that's how all of this works.
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I'll take your word for it.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
A crime is a crime that can be prosecuted until the statute of limitations runs. Sometimes new evidence comes to light. I think there were some accusations from former Trump associates at some point in the last few years.

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So... you’ve got him now?
 
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IMO the worst the Trump crime family will face if found guilty would be a fines and restitution plus interest. Unless...........unless they have something on Weisselberg and he has flipped.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
A crime is a crime that can be prosecuted until the statute of limitations runs. Sometimes new evidence comes to light. I think there were some accusations from former Trump associates at some point in the last few years.

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a like for the Lebowski reference
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Give me a break. A supposed patriot who wants to make America great and his base loves him because he puts "America first" that allegedly dodged paying millions upon millions in taxes he owed to that very same country. Yeah we all speed and park illegally sometimes but this is not that level of a crime. If true.
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wait - the TDS folks told me he wasn't really rich but somehow he owe "millions upon millions" in taxes?

please make up your mind on your line of attack
 
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So we’re cool with Clinton raping women but Trump didn’t pay enough taxes?
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I guess I’d cry too if I were you with that 🤷‍♂️

I said earlier if he was a stupid criminal and falsified records fry him. You think he was stupid enough to do that?
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On one hand you say "if he did it, fry him" on the other you seem to be crying about the fact that he keeps getting investigated while deflecting that the banks are really the culpable parties for allowing it. Your arguments are getting bulldozed because they lack consistency, pick a lane.
 
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I feel like I said this a lot during the whitewater investigation, the “lock her up” chants and the Russian investigation....nothing is going to happen. This is political abuse of power .....again
(Y’all remember that accusation, right?)
 
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Some will not be happy until DT is in prison or his grave.
Me thinks he will die of old age around 92 while he continues to live in their heads.
 
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