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#101
#101
nbakerld said:
How do you define Christians? I define them as people who believe Christ to be the son of God and savior of the world. I don't think it requires anything else. What do you think?
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Christ himself was a Jew. Elijah and others may have prophesied his birth and that he's the son of god, but that in no way makes them Christians.
 
#103
#103
nbakerld said:
What makes a Christian?
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I believe the standard is 1) getting "saved" by accepting Christ into your heart and acknowledging that he died on the Cross for your sins and was then resurrected. 2) being Baptized.

for further details, you should probably ask a Christian.
 
#104
#104
MG1968 said:
I believe the standard is 1) getting "saved" by accepting Christ into your heart and acknowledging that he died on the Cross for your sins and was then resurrected. 2) being Baptized.

for further details, you should probably ask a Christian.
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Baptizm isn't a requirement according to the Christians I've asked, so I'm pretty sure it's just the faith part...which qualifies Elijah.
 
#114
#114
T-TownVol said:
wrong, unbelievers in that day tried to claim that
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In Malachi the prophesy states that Elijah will return before the Lord comes. I thought Christians claimed John the Baptist was Elijah to reconcile their Bible history with the prophesy.
 
#115
#115
MG1968 said:
so Jews go to hell?
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current or back then?
current - if they never acknowledge Jesus as their savior, and this is according to the Bible and not me, no they are not saved
back then - no clue

simply being born Jewish will not get you into Heaven according to the New Testament
 
#116
#116
nbakerld said:
In Malachi the prophesy states that Elijah will return before the Lord comes. I thought Christians claimed John the Baptist was Elijah to reconcile their Bible history with the prophesy.
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nope, but it makes a good story....a Google search will bring up threads that say that he was, but he was not
 
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#118
#118
T-TownVol said:
current or back then?
current - if they never acknowledge Jesus as their savior, and this is according to the Bible and not me, no they are not saved
back then - no clue

simply being born Jewish will not get you into Heaven according to the New Testament
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so there is a distinction between the "word of God" in the Old and New Testaments?

just wondering since baker made the claim that Christians teach violence and used verses from the Book of Kings to justify his position
 
#119
#119
MG1968 said:
so there is a distinction between the "word of God" in the Old and New Testaments?

just wondering since baker made the claim that Christians teach violence and used verses from the Book of Kings to justify his position
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there is a difference in the plan of salvation from the Old to New, the word of God is the word of God, violence was a part of the Old Covenent, is absolutely not part of the New Covenent
 
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