Herman Cain

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GAVol said:
...and now a former NRA employee - now a Perry pollster - is corroborating Cain's behavior. My question is why did it take this far into the campaign for all of these people to get an attack of morality? Cain has been at the top or headed in that direction for a couple of months now.
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It takes time to get good dirt.
 
#428
#428
GAVol said:
...and now a former NRA employee - now a Perry pollster - is corroborating Cain's behavior. My question is why did it take this far into the campaign for all of these people to get an attack of morality? Cain has been at the top or headed in that direction for a couple of months now.
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I disagree that it's been a couple of months now. Perry was on top for a bit after he entered the campaign, but he hasn't been in the race for long. He didn't think he'd lose this much ground so quickly.
 
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#429
GAVol said:
If the harassment was truly as widespread as is being portrayed and a co-worker is working for a rival candidate, I can't imagine that's true.
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And time for organizing and delivering the smear?

I think it happened when they realized he may be more than another GOP flash in the pan, and that his own particular brand of bat**** crazy wouldn't drive people off, like Bachmann's did.
 
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GAVol said:
...and now a former NRA employee - now a Perry pollster - is corroborating Cain's behavior. My question is why did it take this far into the campaign for all of these people to get an attack of morality? Cain has been at the top or headed in that direction for a couple of months now.
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A perry pollster? You don't say?
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#431
Looks like the gloves are off and Cain is blaming Perry . . .

In the summer of 2003, Cain recalls briefing Anderson—his general campaign consultant at the time—that sexual harassment claims were brought against him while he was chairman of the National Restaurant Association from 1996 to 1999.

“I told my wife about this in 1999 and I’ve got nothing to hide,” Cain told me Wednesday. “When I sat down with my general campaign consultant Kurt Anderson in a private room in our campaign offices in 2003 we discussed opposition research on me. It was a typical campaign conversation. I told him that there was only one case, one set of charges, one woman while I was at the National Restaurant Association. Those charges were baseless, but I thought he needed to know about them. I don’t recall anyone else being in the room when I told him.” ...

Aside from knowing about the alleged sexual harassment accusations, Cain campaign officials point to the timing of Anderson’s hiring by Perry as evidence of his involvement. The campaign announced Anderson’s role on October 24, just a week before Politico broke the story.

Does he regret telling Anderson about it? “I don’t regret it at all,” Cain says. “The guy who was supposed to help with strategy should know everything. I put it on the table right from the get go. I wasn’t trying to hide it.”
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#432
Jeb Bush has got to be thinking "If only I had a different last name..."
 
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GAVol said:
Jeb Bush has got to be thinking "If only I had a different last name..."
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Just run as Beb Jush. Nobody will know.

As for Cain, I ultimately don't think this will be his downfall if he doesn't get the nod. Clinton made it through a similar ordeal in 92, and besides, it seems like much of the GOP base is wrapped up in a category 5 Hermancain.
 
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Cain is coming off as an epic amateur in all of this. Directly blaming Perry is something you either leak or have a surrogate do for you.
 
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#437
He's not a professional politician. I don't hold that against him.
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GAVol said:
Cain is coming off as an epic amateur in all of this. Directly blaming Perry is something you either leak or have a surrogate do for you.
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I can see why you would say this, but I like it. He's trying to position himself as something different, so why not break a few of the unwritten rules?
 
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HSVol said:
I can see why you would say this, but I like it. He's trying to position himself as something different, so why not break a few of the unwritten rules?
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Unfortunately, being defensive and panicking are pretty much universal rules you don't want to break. And this is coming from somebody that likes the guy.
 
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GAVol said:
Unfortunately, being defensive and panicking are pretty much universal rules you don't want to break. And this is coming from somebody that likes the guy.
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Well, it's a bit late for him to NOT be defensive, right? If he had handled the initial response better, maybe it wouldn't have come to this.

However, I really don't believe that this would've gone away regardless of his initial response. The way the political cycle goes, the issue has to be beaten to a pulp before it goes away, even if it's handled perfectly.

The thing is that this is just the beginning of it, unfortunately. Wait until these women show their faces.

So, whatever. He's just going to have to deal with it. Let's just hope we don't hear the term "Long Dong Silver" this time. That was particularly aggregious! :birgits_giggle:
 
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