Herman Cain

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#453
Mark Block just went all in on blaming the Rick Perry campaign. This is nuts. It's not about who leaked the story anymore.
 
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#456
I am not circling the wagons per se. If the man is truly guilty of what he has been charged with, he will not get my vote period. General or Primary. However, I have yet to hear any substantial accusations, let alone evidence anything happened. I do believe this whole situation has been grossly mishandled by their campaign, primarily because we are dealing with people who are not professional politicians. If this was done by a fellow Republican, then we have no hope. At the end of the day we are supposed to be on the same side here, and this just reeks. You beat your Primary opponents on ideals, not trumped up charges you hope sticks.

And I am going to ask this again to the people posting the Yes/No picture of Ron Paul: When and how did Cain, Romney, and anyone else in this race not in Congress/Senate/White House have the ability to vote yes on any of those issues? I'm not saying Paul would be a bad direction at all, but this superiority complex his followers have is a bit off putting to me. They say if it's not Paul then they aren't voting, and we are in serious trouble if people do that. Like it or not, this is a two party system. And vote your ideals in the Primary but then vote who best lines up afterwards. And I'm sorry if you are a Paul supporter, I just do not see how a Democrat, especially one in the vein of Obama would be more appealing than any of the Republicans who emerge from this.
 
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#460
The problem is that when people hear "lobbyist" they only think of large industry. There are plenty of lobbyists out there providing access and a voice for people that otherwise wouldn't have it.
 
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Gramps said:
Not the same thing.
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Its exactly the same thing. The only difference is that there is strength in numbers. The more people who contact their rep the more effective the contact is. Logistically, it is easier to band together and send someone to do all the talking for us.
 
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This story just keeps getting better . . .
A friend of the Cain campaign believes a National Restaurant Association (NRA) employee out of the Chicago office leaked the story to the Perry campaign via information and influence from Mayor Rahm Emanuel's office.
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RespectTradition said:
Its exactly the same thing. The only difference is that there is strength in numbers. The more people who contact their rep the more effective the contact is. Logistically, it is easier to band together and send someone to do all the talking for us.
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The different is the $$$
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Gramps said:
The different is the $$$
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Do you think it is wrong to donate to a candidate that supports issues important to you?

If you donate $100 to a candidate and bob does and bill does, then $300 was donated. Does it matter that you and bill and bob pool your money and write one check?
 
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Cain has bungled this but the AP story about an anonymous woman who says she "considered" filing charges against him is simply ludicrous. Is this what we've come to? Why on earth would the AP run that story?
 
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therealUT said:
Truth has no race; "sexual harassment" is not a "sex scandal" it is an offense against another person. A "sex scandal" is having a mistress. These are distinct at the foundations.
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Exactly, sexual harassment takes place in the workplace.
 
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GAVol said:
This story just keeps getting better . . .
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Now I might just buy that.

Remember that these same scurrilous sewer rat
scum now making the attack on Cain are the same
ones used by the tooth fairy mayor of Chicago to
launch his attack on Sarah Palin and you might
think it was successful at least in weak minds the
regurgitae the lurid lies of the left but Herman came
prepared.

He said when he announced his campaign that
he expected a 'hi-tech' lynching just like
Justice Clarence Thomas.

"The witnesses for the state, with the exception of
the sheriff of Maycomb County, have presented
themselves to you gentlemen, to this court, in the
cynical confidence that their testimony would not be
doubted, confident that you gentlemen would go along
with them on the assumption – the evil assumption –
that all Negroes lie, that all Negroes are basically
immoral beings, that all Negro men are not to be
trusted around our women, an assumption one
associates with minds of their caliber."

From the novel 'To Kill a Mocking Bird',
by Harper Lee

Cain will weather the ****storm just fine.
 
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Progressives have no room to talk about the Cain
non-scandal.

Having a mistress? Didn't that start with FDR, and
Hitlery channels Elanor, go figure, no wonder she
is married to a serial rapist.

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Then there was the 'Lion of the senate' a progressive
who drove off a bridge drunk with a young girl
impregnated by him while was living as a married man
and left her to drown while swimming away for his
own safety.

One of their candidates in the last presidential
election denied that he was hiding an out of wedlock
child by one of his secretairies until he couldn't
deny it anymore.

Then of course there is the prominent progressive
congressman whose livein boyfriend was running
a male prostitute ring out of the congressman's
apartment.

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#469
volinbham said:
Cain has bungled this but the AP story about an anonymous woman who says she "considered" filing charges against him is simply ludicrous. Is this what we've come to? Why on earth would the AP run that story?
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ask threrealUT
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gsvol said:
cain2012.jpg



Progressives have no room to talk about the Cain
non-scandal.

Having a mistress? Didn't that start with FDR, and
Hitlery channels Elanor, go figure, no wonder she
is married to a serial rapist.

0123fdrB1.jpg


Then there was the 'Lion of the senate' a progressive
who drove off a bridge drunk with a young girl
impregnated by him while was living as a married man
and left her to drown while swimming away for his
own safety.

One of their candidates in the last presidential
election denied that he was hiding an out of wedlock
child by one of his secretairies until he couldn't
deny it anymore.

Then of course there is the prominent progressive
congressman whose livein boyfriend was running
a male prostitute ring out of the congressman's
apartment.

179406.jpg
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This is rich, GS. As I understand your view, since there have been Democratic politicians who have committed worse offenses, no one should be bothered by any offenses from Republican politicians. Great principle you are standing on.

Ironically, this is the same principle you stand on with regard to Christianity: since, in your opinion, Muslim atrocities are more severe and more widespread than Christian atrocities, no one should be bothered by any Christian atrocities.
 
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I'm not sure the harassment even matters anymore. I think it says a lot that Cain is surrounding himself with advisers that are this tone deaf.
 
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therealUT said:
Truth has no race; "sexual harassment" is not a "sex scandal" it is an offense against another person. A "sex scandal" is having a mistress. These are distinct at the foundations.
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Sadly, it looks like a pattern is developing that will likely end Cain's run. Unlike liberals who like you will excuse the behavior of those who will advance their agenda... conservatives will withdraw their support from him.

If he is guilty and this does not go away soon... it will be just as offensive to conservatives that he was violating the trust of his wife as the particulars of an Sexual Harassment allegation.

But where were you with the "truth has no race" when Obama was getting a pass?

FTR, MANY things Clinton did far surpassed sexual harassment or "having a mistress". Broderick credibly accused him of attempted rape. Paula Jones' allegations were beyond simple sexual harassment. Even the woman who helped out him concerning Monica was subjected to retaliation which is an egregious form of sexual harassment.... but Clinton's apologist on the left never waivered no matter how hypocritical his actions forced them to be.
 
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therealUT said:
This is rich, GS. As I understand your view, since there have been Democratic politicians who have committed worse offenses, no one should be bothered by any offenses from Republican politicians. Great principle you are standing on.
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Not GS... but if Cain is guilty then he should... and probably will pay a price. He isn't a liberal running to get liberal votes. His best hope at this point is to come completely clean, admit whatever wrong he did, and hope that he can recover.

It would be important to those of us who would like to vote for him to know the exact nature of the encounters.

If he were a liberal black politician, the media would have already come to the rescue accusing everyone including the women of racism and not understanding the cultural nature of the language used by black men. If you don't think this would have been excused and swept under the rug.... you are out of your mind.

It is just very offensive to watch this unfold when the left circled the wagons to protect Clinton from a lifelong pattern of sexual misconduct.

Ironically, this is the same principle you stand on with regard to Christianity: since, in your opinion, Muslim atrocities are more severe and more widespread than Christian atrocities, no one should be bothered by any Christian atrocities.
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Again, not him, but the more "biblically fundamental" a Christian is... the more "Christian" they are... the less likely they would ever use violence as a means of advancing their religion. The more "fundamental" a Muslim is... the more they read/accept the Quran literally... the more likely they are to use violence or force to advance Islam.

You can turn a blind eye if you like. But look across the spectrum of Muslim majority nations and compare them to nations with a Protestant majority.

Furthermore, the greatest opposition to violence in the name of Christ will come from Christians. In fact, you will get near universal condemnations from across the Christian spectrum. The same cannot be said for Islamic violence.
 
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#474
Pretty sure I'm gonna make a damn big stink if my neighbor starts killing in the name of christ...and i'm not christian.
 
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Gramps said:
Lobbyist are not necessary.
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Unless we multiply the number of representatives by about 3 or 4... some form of organized expression will be necessary.

OTOH, if we reduced the federal gov't to its constitutional size and scope... lobbyists would have very little to lobby for.
 
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