Hey coach worshippers...

[Stumbleandfumble]

Welp Kiffen is getting his ass stomped so I can go to bed happy looking forward to the Titans game. Goonight all and thanks for the welcome, Freak.

 

[Freak]

Welp Kiffen is getting his ass stomped so I can go to bed happy looking forward to the Titans game. Goonight all and thanks for the welcome, Freak.

Glad to have you. Post often. :hi:

 

[petebee50]

Has anyone thought about offering Gruden the job? Just wondering.

Enough with the f***ing gruden crap! Get over it he aint coming and if he did he'd be the next to go . I'm sick of the name. If you can't be patient and let jones turn us around, I hear theres plenty of room on bammers bandwagon. So shut up or GO AWAY!!!

 

[Freak]

Enough with the f***ing gruden crap! Get over it he aint coming and if he did he'd be the next to go . I'm sick of the name. If you can't be patient and let jones turn us around, I hear theres plenty of room on bammers bandwagon. So shut up or GO AWAY!!!

Rough day?

 

[tnprogrammer]

We were all smart enough to expect this during this year. You apparently thought we were going to win the national championship this year.

I keep seeing you guys whine about all the "crazy" "irrational" fans who dare to hold the coaches accountable for the performance of the team. So, I was wondering if you geniuses could tell me what other major college football programs' fans would be happy with the coaching staff after narrowly avoiding a loss to S. Alabama?

Go on, I'm really curious.

 

[mkh423]

We were all smart enough to expect this during this year. You apparently thought we were going to win the national championship this year.

But oscar meyer has health problems and went undefeated his first year at osu. It can be done with that tough schedule they have.





Sarcasm here

 

[allvol9]

Yes we had a rough 2nd half today....but we won....it could have been worse. My day is however now complete. Kiffin lost again and all is suddenly well.

 

[Eddie Vol Halen]

A reasonable criticism would be why we run the option when (until a couple of plays today) there really is no "option" for Worley to keep the ball. Otherwise, it's just a really slow-to-develop run play (which negates the advantage of our big OL).

I think if we lined up in the I-formation we compete with Oregon by controlling the clock and we beat Florida.

It seems we've done a classic Clawfense mistake and tried to insert a whole new offense in Year One.

Right now, we are hoping the hard-headedness of Butch and Co will pay dividends in 2014 and beyond. His record suggests it will, and hopefully the players coming in will be able to execute it faster.

In 2013 though, it looks like it cost us a big win against a big rival, clearly doesn't play to the strengths of the personnel available, and has made us less competitive in games that, admittedly, we expected to lose anyway.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

I keep seeing you guys whine about all the "crazy" "irrational" fans who dare to hold the coaches accountable for the performance of the team. So, I was wondering if you geniuses could tell me what other major college football programs' fans would be happy with the coaching staff after narrowly avoiding a loss to S. Alabama?

Go on, I'm really curious.

Some people can see the whole picture of what was and what is. Then not go after the coach or team with unrestrained zest with torches and pitch forks. You see, your dismal pina colanda would taste better with Jack Daniels No. 7 or Prichard's Doubled Barreled instead of Absolut.

 

[kiddiedoc]

If he plays the way he did today minus a couple of bad decisions, cleans up the problem with the short passing routes, gets help from the receivers, gets improved protection, continues to get run game support.... UT will win 8 IMO... how's that?

That's a lot of "ifs," but your optimism is refreshing (or overserved, one).

 

[Doyle Hargraves]

I keep seeing you guys whine about all the "crazy" "irrational" fans who dare to hold the coaches accountable for the performance of the team. So, I was wondering if you geniuses could tell me what other major college football programs' fans would be happy with the coaching staff after narrowly avoiding a loss to S. Alabama?

Go on, I'm really curious.

I'm not happy with the situation this team is in or the closeness of the game yesterday. Hell, no one really is happy about it. The fact that many of the impatient bastards refuse to acknowledge is what a clusterfawk of a place this program has been lowered to. There is no doubt that we should have "out talented" USA yesterday, but that talent we have has been riddled with the cancer of losing the past few years. They don't know what it's like to be a winner or what it takes. Tennessee's problem goes way beyond X's and O's. It has just as much to do with revamping their entire mentality. The only things that will achieve this is time and the addition of new talent. Take a look at our recruiting class. Butch is handling the talent part. It's up to us to handle the time.
If you find yourself incapable of giving it time, then that is up to you. Will Butch be the answer? I don't know, but you have to give him more than five games to accomplish the goal. If you can't do that then perhaps you don't have the stomach for a major rebuilding process and you would be better off supporting an established program like bama or Oregon.

 

[EZE]

Nobody's happy, but we are dealing with the hand we have been dealt. It's delusional to call for a coaching change, at this point. The sane crowd knows that we have to ride out the year, hope that the recruiting class stays committed, and that the system starts to click next year.

What, exactly, do the nay-sayers suggest? I have yet to hear any reasonable suggestion.

Agree. Butch Jones did not ride this program down to this level. It took eight years and Fulmer, Kiffin and Dooley to do that. I will reserve judgment on Butch until around this point next season. If we don't see a markedly bettere team by that point, then I will be worried.

What it takes eight years to bring down...is not going to be magically fixed overnight.

 

[deaconkane]

Call me crazy or delusional....but I don't think so. We just always play our best against Ga. Yes, we have the potential to be blown away....but I think it will be a tight game. I think the Vols play the best game to date. And man will they ever have to. I guess it just goes back to me hating GA so much!

Not even close. Another Oregón type beatdown. But its ok, we will be alot better in 3-4 years. Lol

 

[BigOrange15]

I keep seeing you guys whine about all the "crazy" "irrational" fans who dare to hold the coaches accountable for the performance of the team. So, I was wondering if you geniuses could tell me what other major college football programs' fans would be happy with the coaching staff after narrowly avoiding a loss to S. Alabama?

Go on, I'm really curious.

That's called asking the wrong question. Post less.

 

[Volfan2012]

Kiffin fired last night so he is available again. He and Dooley are the reasons were where we are right now. Jones has the reigns but he is dealing with what came before he got here. We have to suffer another season or two because of the two guys mentioned above. Look at recruiting were on our way back it takes players and Jones will get them.

 

[volspeach]

If "fans" get this pissed after a win, imagine how angry they'll be after the next 3 losses...

GO VOLS..
GO BIG ORANGE .. :rock:

 

[oregonvol]

I thought we answered your question. Personally I don't believe any staff would be happy with our second half performance today, including ours. Are you suggesting our coaches are out driving around in a limo tonight, patting themselves on the back for a great coaching job tonight? The know we played poorly in the second half, but I bet they were thrilled to escape with a win.

Does that answer your question?

No. It does not answer my question. Please read my first post. My question was, what other fanbase of a major college program would be happy with their coaching staff after narrowly beating South Alabama?

I didn't ask how the coaching staff feels about it.

Most of the posts on here are whining about anyone being upset about the game or having a single negative thought about our coach. I was wondering what other fanbases meet these people's lofty standards for how to react (or rather how to just blame the players) when your team looks inept.

You don't see any improvement at all with this team?

Aside from the secondary (which has made some impressive strides), no I don't.

 

[Ten_Titans]

The results themselves have been bad, but who cares. We kind of expected that.

What I, and most of the people here, we're hoping to see this year was an improvement in team attitude and scheme. Both of which fall on the coaching.

Attitude has been great. They fight every play.

Scheme, however, has been dreadful.

When the commentator (granted, a Heisman winner) tells you over the air that you are lined up wrong, that is a problem. And it has nothing to do with the lack of talent.

Aside from that, I am not ready to off myself over this like most the forum. It is hard to play with under coached guys who you didn't recruit.

It truly is year 0 unfortunately.

 

[JimVol]

So a new SEC coach is not allowed to make mistakes?

Has CBJ made them? Yes...he has. He is human. Not a machine.

Is he doing OTJ training? Sadly, I think he is. SEC and big boy football is a different animal. I think he will get there.

But he said it yesterday on the jumbotron... "Are we there yet? Not even close!"

We have a good coach, he has proven that he can coach championship teams at a lower level. It will take a while for him to become a great coach. I hate saying that, I want instant results as much as any other person... But we didn't get here overnight and we won't return to greatness overnight.

Thanks,

Jim

 

[Pig Skin]

I keep seeing guys whine about winning the game today (yesterday). Get your head out of your f%$&##g ass and let's move on to the beatdown we'll take from UGA.

Fify.

 

[Freak]

No. It does not answer my question. Please read my first post. My question was, what other fanbase of a major college program would be happy with their coaching staff after narrowly beating South Alabama?

I didn't ask how the coaching staff feels about it.

Most of the posts on here are whining about anyone being upset about the game or having a single negative thought about our coach. I was wondering what other fanbases meet these people's lofty standards for how to react (or rather how to just blame the players) when your team looks inept.

Aside from the secondary (which has made some impressive strides), no I don't.

I've said over and over I don't think anyone in our fan base is happy with that second half, and I don't think any other fan base would be either. Is this your biggest question after last night; if other fan bases would be happy?

Do you think fans of other programs who still support their players and coach after five games are referred to as "coach worshippers" by a segment of the their fanbase?

Most people aren't whining about having a negative thought. Have you looked through the thread on the first page of this forum alone? If you are referencing someone specific, why don't you ask them instead of using sweeping generalizations?

I think I can point to several areas which I believe are improved, but it doesn't seem like you want to discuss anything besides a few people whining about those whining, so I'm moving on. :hi:

 

[Boca Vol]

It's funny that the posters that took a wait and see attitude in the off-season were called nega-vols, trolls, whatever.

Now, the ones that went full Butch are now using terms like "Year 0" and "the cupboard is bare". "You can't expect Butch to win with this roster."

So which is it? Fans typically swing way too far from the middle (positive or negative), especially in the off-season.

UT is 3-2 which was expected. What wasn't expected is UT looking lost on the field. Personally, I thought Butch's discipline would keep this team in some games with the potential for an upset. That simply hasn't happened.

I was sitting in the stands at UF at halftime with UT trailing 17-7 thinking maybe there was 15% chance UT could pull out that win. It's frustrating as a fan to feel that your team has little to no shot when they're only down 10. That's what I had hoped would change under Butch and, so far, it hasn't.

 

[KBVol]

If "fans" get this pissed after a win, imagine how angry they'll be after the next 3 losses...

I think it's all about expectations 4... I was disappointed we lost to Florida but didn't expect to win there. I'm honestly more disappointed with the effort, specifically the 2nd half, vs a bad SunBelt team, than I was vs Fla, or how much I expect to be after the 3 losses certainly coming the 3 next games.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

I keep seeing you guys whine about all the "crazy" "irrational" fans who dare to hold the coaches accountable for the performance of the team. So, I was wondering if you geniuses could tell me what other major college football programs' fans would be happy with the coaching staff after narrowly avoiding a loss to S. Alabama?

Go on, I'm really curious.

Curious. I would say you don't have a very good knowledge of football.

 

[Freak]

It's funny that the posters that took a wait and see attitude in the off-season were called nega-vols, trolls, whatever.

Now, the ones that went full Butch are now using terms like "Year 0" and "the cupboard is bare". "You can't expect Butch to win with this roster."

So which is it? Fans typically swing way too far from the middle (positive or negative), especially in the off-season.

UT is 3-2 which was expected. What wasn't expected is UT looking lost on the field. Personally, I thought Butch's discipline would keep this team in some games with the potential for an upset. That simply hasn't happened.

I was sitting in the stands at UF at halftime with UT trailing 17-7 thinking maybe there was 15% chance UT could pull out that win. It's frustrating as a fan to feel that your team has little to no shot when they're only down 10. That's what I had hoped would change under Butch and, so far, it hasn't.

I think a wait-and-see approach is very fair. And I think it still applies after game five. It sounds like you've moved from wait and see to a negative outlook because we weren't in the Oregon and Florida games with "the potential for an upset".

I was in those same stands at halftime was was sick about that first half. It was a bad decision to start Peterman and our staff cost us points in that first half. We should have taken a field goal when in range instead of forcing a pass on third down (which I believe resulted in a turnover) and I disagreed with the decision to put Peterman in a passing situation on 3rd and long inside of our ten yard line, which also cost us points.

I almost feel like if we get blown out, we're outclassed but if we compete then we let one get away.

I personally don't have any issues with criticism of this staff or certain player performances. I took a little issue with this thread because the OP wants to complain about whining, by whining, and calling everyone "coach worshippers". I'd just like to discuss specifics and figure out the reasoning behind those who are still in full support and those we are waning a bit after what we saw yesterday.

:hi: