Hey coach worshippers...

#101
#101
I'm starting to come around, maybe the coaches should log on after midnight. We can do this.
 
#102
#102
I've said this in other threads I liken this season to 2010. Like 2010 we'll get our clocks cleaned by UGA and have our first glimpse of Ferg who even if mistake prone will breathe new life into the offense. After the meltdown at the end of the game plus the picks today I doubt Worley has many friends in the locker room.
 
#103
#103
kiddiedoc said:
Which leads some sensible fans to wonder why we can't get a mobile QB in the game. The only answer I can come up with is that the freshmen just can't run the offense yet. There's no way they have a lesser arm.
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I think Butch is nervous of the politics with that move. He's being slowly boxed into that as his only option though.
 
#104
#104
DD4ME said:
I've said this in other threads I liken this season to 2010. Like 2010 we'll get our clocks cleaned by UGA and have our first glimpse of Ferg who even if mistake prone will breathe new life into the offense. After the meltdown at the end of the game plus the picks today I doubt Worley has many friends in the locker room.
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Why does everyone want Ferg when Dobbs is the dual threat that fits the read option the best?
 
#105
#105
DD4ME said:
If Worley even sniffs pressure he's worm burning it or worse.
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I'm sure I'll take heat for this, but it almost seems like he's a little afraid to step into his throws and take a hit. I see him do it some, but it also seems like he throws off his back foot a lot, at least he did early on. I'm not sure if he did today or not It until I watch the replay.
 
#106
#106
oregonvol said:
Bull$#!% is right.

Where am I spinning anything?

You're spinning by saying that I said that coaching is the only reason the team is where it is right now. Where did I ever say that?

What I am saying is that the coaches should be held accountable. And I say this in response to all of the "You have to give them until 2016 to show progress!" and "If you're upset with today's performance you're crazy!" statements that are filling the board.
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Speak plainly, what do You mean when you say "should be held accountable "
Regardless of your lack of information as to what it is your demanding, CBJ is responsible for this team.
He has made that clear in his press coverage.
Would it make you happy if he jumped on a sword and tanked the rest of the season.
Drop all the recruiting progress and say he is not able to coach for UT.
What do you want from this man?
To my knowledge you haven't provided any thing constructive.
I think everyone get that you are upset ... it is ok to be upset.
What's it going to take to make YOU happy..
Its all about you right now...
Do you need a belly rub..
Would you like some coco..
How about some nice new team to cheer for ..
I hear Bama is looking hard up for offense now... maybe you could take your special fan skills to there team. Your encouraging words may be just the spark they need to fix the problems they are having with their coaching.
Yep, sounds like Saben needs to be "held accountable"
Go hold Saben ...
 
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#107
#107
kiddiedoc said:
This should be required reading before starting a new thread. See how easy this is? We figured it out.
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Except that it isn't true. You could possibly say that the personnel have not been integrated into his system yet... but he's recruiting basically the same kind of players he has. All of the QB's including the 2 he signed plus Peterman who he recruited at Cincy are pro-style QB's. While you might could say one is more mobile than another... none are going to make you think of Cam Newton.

There are issues. Some of them are player development. Some are scheme. Some are playcalling. Some are depth. Some are experience. And a few are talent.

It is JONES' responsibility to pull all of that together. All these threads and comments about one player or group or another "sucking" are flat out ignorant. The ironclad condemnations of coaches or players are ignorant.

People are looking for negatives and MOST posters here are finding those negatives where they CHOOSE to. If they are skeptical of the staff... they find things to pick at in their performance. If they want to believe the staff is "great"... then they nitpick the players to death. If they hate Worley then they find reasons to blame him. The OL? Some blame them.

I thought the coaching in the Oregon and UF game was poor. I did not think that today. There were some things like a failure to make sufficient adjustment on D... but overall I thought it was a well planned and well called game.

There were some major mistakes but there were also some well played games by players. Worley made some mistakes but he also made some of his best throws of the year. Croom is becoming a stud and the most reliable target. Pig and North need to get MUCH better. Josh Smith made great play on his TD then dropped a critical 3rd down pass that hit him square in the chest.

You could go through every player and group and find good and bad.... but at the end of the day they won. Should have won by 3 or 4 TD's... but they won.
 
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Stumbleandfumble said:
Why does everyone want Ferg when Dobbs is the dual threat that fits the read option the best?
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Because word from former players and media that are close to the program see Fergie as the front-runner. Since I have no access to practice, I have to take their word.
 
#109
#109
Freak said:
I'm sure I'll take heat for this, but it almost seems like he's a little afraid to step into his throws and take a hit. I see him do it some, but it also seems like he throws off his back foot a lot, at least he did early on. I'm not sure if he did today or not It until I watch the replay.
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Not from me, I agree. Simms in that regard was an ever loving warrior. He held the ball and took sacks unneccesarily but the guy wouldn't shy from contact. We have the opposite in Worley. He rushes and chunks the ball and the turf in his rush not to be sacked.
 
#110
#110
Stumbleandfumble said:
Honestly I don't see how starting Dobbs would be any worse than Worley and from the highlights I have watched of Dobbs he comes from a read option offense so he already understands it to an extent.
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None of us really know. Butch sees him every day I imagine, and for some reason feels he isn't ready. If nothing else Worley has done a pretty good job of being a field general.
 
#111
#111
kiddiedoc said:
Because word from former players and media that are close to the program see Fergie as the front-runner. Since I have no access to practice, I have to take their word.
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Having the best arm doesn't always make them the best option. Just ask Florida about Teblow and Texas about knee was down and was a forward lateral Vince Young.
 
#112
#112
Stumbleandfumble said:
Why does everyone want Ferg when Dobbs is the dual threat that fits the read option the best?
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Cuz Fergie is a baller....kid is fearless...has a tattoo on his chest that says "AIN'T" and on his back says "SCURRRED" and let me tell you it is way more bad ass than Bray's 4 star doozy he got on his back :yes:
 
#113
#113
Freak said:
None of us really know. Butch sees him every day I imagine, and for some reason feels he isn't ready. If nothing else Worley has done a pretty good job of being a field general.
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Which held, until today. Bad picks against USA=skepticism going into October.
 
#114
#114
sjt18 said:
Except that it isn't true. You could possibly say that the personnel have not been integrated into his system yet... but he's recruiting basically the same kind of players he has. All of the QB's including the 2 he signed plus Peterman who he recruited at Cincy are pro-style QB's. While you might could say one is more mobile than another... none are going to make you think of Cam Newton.

There are issues. Some of them are player development. Some are scheme. Some are playcalling. Some are depth. Some are experience. And a few are talent.

It is JONES' responsibility to pull all of that together. All these threads and comments about one player or group or another "sucking" are flat out ignorant. The ironclad condemnations of coaches or players are ignorant.

People are looking for negatives and MOST posters here are finding those negatives where they CHOOSE to. If they are skeptical of the staff... they find things to pick at in their performance. If they want to believe the staff is "great"... then they nitpick the players to death. If they hate Worley then they find reasons to blame him. The OL? Some blame them.

I thought the coaching in the Oregon and UF game was poor. I did not think that today. There were some things like a failure to make sufficient adjustment on D... but overall I thought it was a well planned and well called game.

There were some major mistakes but there were also some well played games by players. Worley made some mistakes but he also made some of his best throws of the year. Croom is becoming a stud and the most reliable target. Pig and North need to get MUCH better. Josh Smith made great play on his TD then dropped a critical 3rd down pass that hit him square in the chest.

You could go through every player and group and find good and bad.... but at the end of the day they won. Should have won by 3 or 4 TD's... but they won.
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We are dieing a death of 1000 cuts but the nick to the femoral artery is Worley. He's the most critical piece to the puzzle and has had more glaring and repetitive struggles than anyone.
 
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#115
#115
Freak said:
None of us really know. Butch sees him every day I imagine, and for some reason feels he isn't ready. If nothing else Worley has done a pretty good job of being a field general.
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He's efficient but not effective
 
#118
#118
Stumbleandfumble said:
Why does everyone want Ferg when Dobbs is the dual threat that fits the read option the best?
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Ferguson is a winner and has the best arm on the team according to reports. And those who watch practice almost unanimously say he has performed better than Dobbs. That's about all we know.
 
#119
#119
DD4ME said:
I've said this in other threads I liken this season to 2010. Like 2010 we'll get our clocks cleaned by UGA and have our first glimpse of Ferg who even if mistake prone will breathe new life into the offense. After the meltdown at the end of the game plus the picks today I doubt Worley has many friends in the locker room.
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I don't think we will see either freshman qb this year without a injury to worley. He will play both next year in game situations get the one that plays better in game and stick with him. The other will transfer.
 
#120
#120
Stumbleandfumble said:
Having the best arm doesn't always make them the best option. Just ask Florida about Teblow and Texas about knee was down and was a forward lateral Vince Young.
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And neither does having the best legs, whichever quarterback on our roster that may be.
 
#121
#121
I watched it again and did not see Worley throw off of his back foot. He actually looked better the 2nd time around. If the WR's were improving as fast as he is... the passing game would begin to be a real asset.
 
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#123
#123
oregonvol said:
I keep seeing you guys whine about all the "crazy" "irrational" fans who dare to hold the coaches accountable for the performance of the team. So, I was wondering if you geniuses could tell me what other major college football programs' fans would be happy with the coaching staff after narrowly avoiding a loss to S. Alabama?

Go on, I'm really curious.
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Who did Saban lose to in his first year at Bama?



Until we lose to a team we should beat, i'll be happy.
 
#125
#125
sjt18 said:
I watched it again and did not see Worley throw off of his back foot. He actually looked better the 2nd time around. If the WR's were improving as fast as he is... the passing game would begin to be a real asset.
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So it's the receivers faults that passes are sailing over their heads by feet, and landing yards behind them?
 
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