Holy Trinity Discussion

[Vol8188]

I'm the ignorant one? You have to be trolling.

No matter what he sees the answer is always “black”. Even when he sees South Americans

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

it's pretty nuts to ignore how her actual hair looked as a mummy and assume a carving of her is a more accurate depiction.

Mummies are dead remains that have been exposed to the elements for thousands of years. Hardly reliable indicators of how the person looked while living. The way Queen Tiye was depicted while she was alive is far more predictive of what she looked like. Nonetheless it's really yalls ignorance of black hair that has yall confused.

When black people untwist our braids the hair can look straight for a period of time before it returns to its natural rigidity. Same thing happens when we apply water. If you were to take black hair when it's in a straightened state and you apply oils and butter then you can get something like this from afro textured hair.









I know black hair is confusing to non-black people but our hair can transform into many different states based on how wet or dry it is. Also dependant on your curl pattern. If you have a loose curl pattern like the black woman above you can see how her hair can look straight like Queen Tiye in one photo and curly in the next. Also give those curls a few more days without water and oil and they can be brushed up into an afro.

To a non-black person Queen Tiye's hair might look non-African when it's straightened. But to a black person we know that her hair is black cause we can get the same texture when our braids are out.

 

[volinbham]

Mummies are dead remains that have been exposed to the elements for thousands of years. Hardly reliable indicators of how the person looked while living. The way Queen Tiye was depicted while she was alive is far more predictive of what she looked like. Nonetheless it's really yalls ignorance of black hair that has yall confused.

When black people untwist our braids the hair can look straight for a period of time before it returns to its natural rigidity. Same thing happens when we apply water. If you were to take black hair when it's in a straightened state and you apply oils and butter then you can get something like this from afro textured hair.


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I know black hair is confusing to non-black people but our hair can transform into many different states based on how wet or dry it is. Also dependant on your curl pattern. If you have a loose curl pattern like the black woman above you can see how her hair can look straight like Queen Tiye in one photo and curly in the next. Also give those curls a few more days without water and oil and they can be brushed up into an afro.

To a non-black person Queen Tiye's hair might look non-African when it's straightened. But to a black person we know that her hair is black cause we can get the same texture when our braids are out.

definitely trolling - mummies are "hardly reliable indicators of how someone looked" but a carving is. got it.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

I'm the ignorant one? You have to be trolling.

If you think that hair texture on Queen Tiye can't become an Afro then yeah you're ignorant of black hair. That's called a twist out. If you twist out braided hair it can look straight.

Ancient Egyptian mummies typically had their hair in braids like this.





Twist out them braids and the hair will look straight. When alive the hair would curl back up after a while. Obviously once you die your hair isn't going to behave like it did when you were alive.

Queen Tiye hair looks like the hair you find on black women all over East and Central Africa.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

definitely trolling - mummies are "hardly reliable indicators of how someone looked" but a carving is. got it.

Dead remains are not as accurate as living portraits. With that said, your main argument is her hair texture. And I've already proven that hair texture is common among black women in her region. Also it shows your ignorance of black hair if you don't know how our hair can transform based on when we apply water and oil versus when it's dry versus when it's been in braids and twisted out.

Any black person can get straight looking hair after we unbraid our hair and apply a wet agent like oil or water. My hair looks straight everytime after a shower. But give it a few hours with no oil applied and I get a curly Afro. Give it a few days of no oil or water and the curls become nappy.

That's just the nature of black hair. It's more versatile than caucasian hair which does not change as dynamically based on dryness levels.

 

[Vol8188]

They had braids! Obviously black!

 

[volinbham]

Dead remains are not as accurate as living portraits. With that said, your main is her hair texture. And I've already proven that hair texture is common among black women in her region. Also it shows your ignorance of black hair if you don't know how our hair can transform based on when we apply water and oil versus when it's dry versus when it's been in braids and twisted out.

Any black person can get straight looking hair after we unbraid our hair and apply a wet agent like oil or water. My hair looks straight everytime after a shower. But give it a few hours with no oil applied and I get a curly Afro. Give it a few days of no oil or water and the curls become nappy.

That's just the nature of black hair. It's more versatile than caucasian hair which does not change as dynamically based on dryness levels.

you haven't "proven" anything and it's ludicrous to compare temporary look of hair after unbraiding or showering to mummified remains.

the carving isn't a living portrait and clearly portraits are not always accurate

believe what you want but don't confuse that with either fact or a convincing argument that your belief is correct

 

[volinbham]

They had braids! Obviously black!

the pictures I've seen of the mummified hair is not in braids

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

it's pretty nuts to ignore how her actual hair looked as a mummy and assume a carving of her is a more accurate depiction.

I'm not ignoring it. I'm just telling you how black people can get straight looking hair like that but still have an Afro like the one in her actual statues when she was alive. It's your ignorance of black hair that makes you assume the mummy can't be the same woman as the one with the afro in the statue. I'm saying it's the same woman in both cases. Her hair when she was alive was dynamic like most black people where our hair can change texture based on wetness and dryness levels. However, after she died her hair obviously wasn't dynamic anymore. Hence why it keep the state it was in after the braids were removed.

This black woman has the similar hair texture to Queen Tiye.




Give this type of hair some water and few hours of dryness and you can get this.





Give that texture a few days to dry out and you can comb it into a large bushy afro. That's how Queen Tiye's hair would have behaved when she was alive. Yall are just caught up on it being in a straightened state cause yall ain't black and don't know about the dynamic nature of black hair when it's alive.

 

[Orangeslice13]

That's because the Nubians aren't connected to the Bible and Jesus as closely as Ancient Egypt.

We’re talking about accepted history not the Bible.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I'm the ignorant one? You have to be trolling.

Has to be a troll.

 

[hog88]

Has to be a troll.

He’s not a troll.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

They had braids! Obviously black!

The only cultures with traditions of hair braiding are cultures with black hair textures like those in Africa and the Pacific Islands.

The reason only black people historically braided our hair is because our natural hair grows upwards. All other races have have hair that grows downwards. So the only way for black people to wear our hair down is by braiding our hair or twisting into locks. Caucasians don't need to braid their hair cause your hair naturally grows downwards.

For example if I grow my hair out it'll never fall below my neck. It's just gonna grow into a large bushy afro like Colin Kaepernick. The only way for me to get long hair that falls below my neck is to twist it into locks or to braid it. Black people like having long hair which is why braids and locks have been a part of every black culture on earth since the beginning.

 

[Orangeslice13]

He’s not a troll.

I know another guy who believes the garbage he spews.
He’s an unfortunately not smart fellow. Maybe this guy is stupid too

 

[Vol8188]

The only cultures with traditions of hair braiding are cultures with black hair textures like those in Africa and the Pacific Islands.

The reason only black people historically braided our hair is because our natural hair grows upwards. All other races have have hair that grows downwards. So the only way for black people to wear our hair down is by braiding our hair or twisting into locks. Caucasians don't need to braid their hair cause your hair naturally grows downwards.

For example if I grow my hair out it'll never fall below my neck. It's just gonna grow into a large bushy afro like Colin Kaepernick. The only way for me to get long hair that falls below my neck is to twist it into locks or to braid it. Black people like having long hair which is why braids and locks have been a part of every black culture on earth since the beginning.

You realize Vikings braided their hair right? Are you about to tell me in your mind the Vikings were also black?

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

you haven't "proven" anything and it's ludicrous to compare temporary look of hair after unbraiding or showering to mummified remains.

These contemporary looks are based on traditions passed down over the centuries in Africa. Just look at this image of men in modern day Ethiopia twisting their hair in the same style as that depicted on the walls of Ancient Egypt thousands of years ago.















The only people with hair like the Ancient Egyptians are black people. And we've been doing these hairstyles for millenia. Even waves are not a contemporary style but go all the way back to Ancient Egypt.




Black people have been having the same hairstyles since the beginning.

 

[Orangeslice13]

This is some Alex Jones level stupidity

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

the pictures I've seen of the mummified hair is not in braids

Most are in braids like these.











Queen Tiye's hair was probably untwisted right after she died and had resins or other agents applied to it so it held its form. And after she died the hair doesn't curl back up to it's original curl pattern hence why it still looks straight.

If you guys knew anything about black hair you wouldn't be confused or surprised by this. But it's ignorance of the dynamic nature of black hair that got yall thinking Queen Tiye couldn't have been a black woman and have hair like that.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

This is some Alex Jones level stupidity

So showing you Ancient Egyptian murals depicting the same hair styling techniques as modern Africans is "stupidity"?



Don't blame me cause the Ancient Egyptians left detailed accounts of how they styled their hair and the fact modern day Africans do the same thing.

 

[Orangeslice13]

So showing you Ancient Egyptian murals depicting the same hair styling techniques as modern Africans is "stupidity"?

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Don't blame me cause the Ancient Egyptians left detailed accounts of how they styled their hair and the fact modern day Africans do the same thing.

Just pick and choose the 5% you can twist to fit your agenda and ignore the 95% that doesn’t

 

[Orangeslice13]

I do like the pictures of mummies with European hair that has decorative braids sewn in.

 

[hndog609]

I know another guy who believes the garbage he spews.
He’s an unfortunately not smart fellow. Maybe this guy is stupid too

He's not stupid, he's ideologically captured. This is greatly facilitated by how he approaches things not even related to this topic. His football evaluations have demonstrated this too many times to count. He settles on some idea he likes and will ride that bad boy into the ground. It's simply how his mind works.

 

[Vol8188]

Only black cultures have traditions of braiding their hair.

That’s a real claim by D4H.

The Vikings are now black

 

[VOLS INC.]

You realize Vikings braided their hair right? Are you about to tell me in your mind the Vikings were also black?

The Vikings were black. We have proof. Here are a few of their descendants. Notice not only the bone structure but the texture and style of their hair. And of course they label themselves Vikings on their battle dress, similar to their ancestors.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

You realize Vikings braided their hair right? Are you about to tell me in your mind the Vikings were also black?

Did the Vikings have afros as well? Cause braids aren't the only black hairstyle that was common in Ancient Egypt. I'm actually glad the topic of hair has come up because that's probably the best proof there is that the Ancient Egyptians were black people.
The most common hairstyle in Ancient Egypt after twists and braids was the Afro.







Here's a modern African with the same Afro hairstyle.




In fact, the oldest Afro combs in history were also discovered in Ancient Egypt.




So it's not just braids. All varieties of black hairstyles were common in Ancient Egypt.