If Barnes retires when ZZ is done ......

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Anti-shunshinepumper said:
I'm exactly sure I just said dropped charges didn't necessarily mean he was innocent.

"Wasn't much doubt"...apparently there was enough doubt that they didn't believe they could convince a jury he was guilty.
They almost always charge someone in a domestic situation like that because of how the laws are. Many, many times they end up getting dropped.
I will say I find it hard to believe he just up and decided he was going to try and strangle his wife to death.
His story is she was the aggressor and striking him, so he tried to restrain he by her wrists and she tried kicking him in the balls.
If this is true ( and it could be, we weren't there), it could explain a lot in regards. I have personally seen women attack men and then call the police on them and say they attacked them.

If a woman is attacking me and trying to kick me in the balls, it's possible I might have to "lay a hand on her" to get her to stop.
If I had to do that it wouldn't mean I was necessarily in the wrong/an abuser.
But again, I ( we) wasn't there to know the 100% truth of the situation. I hate to think tho if his story was true and something like that happened to me, that there would be people treating me as a a convicted felon and calling me a 'woman beater". Let alone lobbying for me to not get a job.
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Cool, you have your view and I have mine. (Though Im not sure where they bite marks factor into self defense, and I’d also just get out of the house if a woman was kicking me) In any event, I’ve been told I won’t be missed so it’s really not a big deal if I have a problem with it. It will never happen so it’s really a waste of time discussing it further.
 
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OrangeInKy said:
Cool, you have your view and I have mine. (Though Im not sure where they bite marks factor into self defense, and I’d also just get out of the house if a woman was kicking me) In any event, I’ve been told I won’t be missed so it’s really not a big deal if I have a problem with it. It will never happen so it’s really a waste of time discussing it further.
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All good. You certainly titled to your opinion.
I wasn't even really trying to change it. Just playing a little devil's advocate from a point of experience.
Bite marks were a little weird, tho. Maybe they into some no so traditional stuff in the bedroom.
Maybe he was on some bath salts and decided to just take a bite out of her. 🤷‍♂️
I'd probably leave too, but I will say one time I had a really feisty girlfriend with superhuman strength come after me with a flashlight. I had to put the wrist cuffs on her or I wasn't making it our of the room without an injury.
 
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SGMVols said:
He had 6 years here and never came close.
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I’m not with those on here wanting a Pearl/UT reunion by any means (I’m just fine with him staying at Auburn lol), but your post makes no sense. Not only DID he come close (Elite 8, one basket shy of Final 4, I would argue is pretty close), he’s also the only coach to get us that close to begin with.

Barnes is a fantastic coach, and I hope we get a few more seasons with him. Pearl is a solid coach as well, but those in here wanting him to come back, need to move on. Most people clamoring about Pearl in general in here, need to move on.
 
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Danny White will hire a young up and comer whose teams score points. How do I know this? Because that's what Danny White does.

Then our fans will bitch and moan because we didn't hire someone who is "proven," as if that equates to being the best hire for Tennessee, because most are ignorant. Then the hire will succeed. Because, again, Danny White.
 
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NighthawkVol said:
Danny White will hire a young up and comer whose teams score points. How do I know this? Because that's what Danny White does.

Then our fans will bitch and moan because we didn't hire someone who is "proven," as if that equates to being the best hire for Tennessee, because most are ignorant. Then the hire will succeed. Because, again, Danny White.
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Join me on the Gerlufsen or McCollum train.

McCollum may be a tougher pull since he’s from Iowa, may not want to live home.
 
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TrippieRedd said:
Join me on the Gerlufsen or McCollum train.

McCollum may be a tougher pull since he’s from Iowa, may not want to live home.
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Oh I like McCollum a lot. The only part of his profile that doesn't fit the DW model is that he's not a high scoring coach. His teams seem more defensive oriented (which I'm fine with). But his national championships at SD State are impressive and fit the DW profile. Wouldn't be mad at Gerlufsen, either.

Ultimately, I trust our AD to make the right hire. I just hope he is the AD when Barnes retires.
 
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Your posting rights should be revoked forever for evening thinking about the name Mike White. That's terrible.

Based on Danny White's hiring history it wouldn't be any of these names. Probably a young up and comer that likes a lot of offense.
 
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Legion of Doom said:
McDermott does seem like a good fit and Smart as well.
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I almost included McDermott on my initial list, but at age 60, does he want to move into a meat grinder conference like the SEC in an area of the country he's never lived, much less coached?

Like Shaka Smart, we could easily double his salary, but would theat money be enough? He's from Iowa and has never lived, played, or coached outside of Iowa, North Dakota or Nebraska. Seems like he's comfortable there in that small area of the country, and at his age, is he looking for a radical change? Money talks, but not everyone listens.

To me, Shaka is the much better bet if we want to swing big, which is why I had him at the top of my list. @Stoerner Fumbles confirmed there is a relationship between him and Danny White, so when the time comes, I won't be surprised to see Smart at, or near the top of of the list.
 
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87Vol said:
We should go get Chris Beard, Ole Miss's coach and make him turn us down. If he won't come, then other good options would be (in order of preference):

1. Mark Byington from Vandy
2. T.J. Otzelberger from Iowa State
3. Chris Jans from Miss. State
4. Patrick Kelsey from Louisville
6. Mike White from Georgia


We can outbid any of those schools. We have better facilities and a better chance of success and a higher ceiling as a program than any of them as well.

Thoughts?
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Looks like to me you only watch SEC ball. You know there are other coaches out there other than SEC guys.
 
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I agree...I think most of us are thinking with the past experiences in mind where we were on our heels the entire hiring process (never purchase a new car when you MUST have a car i guess 🤷‍♂️) ...and with DW he's proven several times to have an innate ability to hire competent people. In fact,...I would not be surprised if DW has already had conversations with some coaches already because, after all, Rick won't coach forever.... Also I too feel like CRB has elevated the program to another level. CLEARLY....coaching basketball in the SEC will be a great challenge for any coach and some coaches LOVE THAT KIND OF CHALLENGE!
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My guess is that it’ll be nobody we can think of. See DWs track record. He goes all in on making someone unknown the next big thing.
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Golfprovol said:
In 1997, while coaching the New Jersey Nets, Calipari directed profanities at Star-Ledger sports reporter Dan Garcia and referred to him as a "Mexican idiot"
He got sued for 5mil.

He said that Camby, who had problems with academics, had turned it all around and made the “Athletic Director’s Academic Dean’s List.” this is completely made up and doesn't even exist.

Gets UMass on a NCAA violation and bolts before it is enforced. Knew the probation was coming and wins forfeited.

The Derek Rose issue at Memphis. Got him accepted into Memphis knowing someone else took his ACT.

The statement about all coaches knowing what goes on around their campus, but trying to deny knowing about Camby and Rose and all the other issues.

Plus he acts like a goon on the sideline.
So yeah, he is kinda classless.
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Maybe you should let Rick know.
 
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chuckiepoo said:
Exactly why would you insert this nugget of extreme speculation into an already charged discussion? Wasn’t Danny White recently extended with a raise making him the highest paid AD in the SEC?
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Easy, Turbo. I wasn’t implying anything. I’m guessing he will be. But nobody knows the future. Barnes might coach till he’s 80.
 
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Anti-shunshinepumper said:
I'm not saying I want Chris Beard as a coach, but those charges were dropped. It's similar to the Flordia coach situation, if the case against someone is dropped or can't be proved I don't know what gives anyone the right to necessarily deem someone guilty.
That doesn't necessarily mean they are innocent, just that they get the benefit of the doubt because we weren't there to know the necessary truth of the matter.
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As an attorney, the charges being dismissed are great for him in the justice system. But it absolutely can be used by employers to determine someone’s character and whether or not they are fit to be employed.
 
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NighthawkVol said:
Danny White will hire a young up and comer whose teams score points. How do I know this? Because that's what Danny White does.

Then our fans will bitch and moan because we didn't hire someone who is "proven," as if that equates to being the best hire for Tennessee, because most are ignorant. Then the hire will succeed. Because, again, Danny White.
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Yes, he stated that position clearly on the K. Caldwell hire. He likes offense in all sports. And odds are it will probably not be a long time proven coach when the time comes. A lot of LV fans moaned and groaned over Caldwell but looks like DW knew what he was doing.
 
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Some of the folks slobbering over T J Otzelberger are the same ones that complain about Coach Barnes in March... Newsflash: He's not even made it past the Sweet 16!
 
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Also some of you all need to tamper your expectations because we will certainly go the mid-major up and comer route (and that's okay.) It's the way of college basketball unless you go after someone who was proven, but has baggage (Pearl and Beard.) Or you go with a former player, but I can't think of a former player that's currently coaching in some capacity?

UK went with a former player that has been a HC, but was unproven bc he hadn't won a NCAA tourney game.
Duke went with a former player that's never been a HC.
UNC went with a former player that's never been a HC.
 
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