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#103
#103
g8terh8ter_eric said:
So, draw it out in crayon since I don't get it.
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John Lynch was good at stopping the run. Being a hard hitter doesn't necessarily mean you can play the run, it just means you can level a guy. Berry proved he was a guy you could rely on to take one side of the field away in the run game. He'd already proven his worth in pass defense. Now he's the total package. Ed Reed outfielder if needed. John Lynch run-stuffer if needed. Showing off another dimension of his game didn't hurt his draft stock.
 
#104
#104
zjcvols said:
He was saying that Berry showed he can play the John Lynch-type safety, someone who can play near the LOS and that Monte helped him become a better player because of that, and that he can handle those responsibilities.
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He did that his sophomore year. Monte didn't reinvent Berry.
 
#105
#105
g8terh8ter_eric said:
He did that his sophomore year.
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Not really, no. He did it some, but not nearly as often. A big part of that was that it wasn't needed as often, but still.

And who the hell cares if he did, anyway? Does that mean he sucks as a coach because he came in and took a player that was already great and didn't drastically reinvent him? The dude won the damn Thorpe Award.
 
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#106
does anybody have any updates about us talking to usc players.just wondering brother in law say's we have according to vol quest.just wondering
 
#107
#107
kptvol said:
John Lynch was good at stopping the run. Being a hard hitter doesn't necessarily mean you can play the run, it just means you can level a guy. Berry proved he was a guy you could rely on to take one side of the field away in the run game. He'd already proven his worth in pass defense. Now he's the total package. Ed Reed outfielder if needed. John Lynch run-stuffer if needed. Showing off another dimension of his game didn't hurt his draft stock.
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Of course it didn't hurt, but doing it all the time took away a dimension of our defense in the process. Again, Monte didn't reinvent Berry into this run-stuffing Safety. He was already good at that, it was just his focus last year.
 
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#109
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Of course it didn't hurt, but doing it all the time took away a dimension of our defense in the process. Again, Monte didn't reinvent Berry into this run-stuffing Safety. He was already good at that, it was just his focus last year.
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That is why Janzen Jackson was back there. We were very good against the deep pass last year.
 
#110
#110
kptvol said:
Not really, no. He did it some, but not nearly as often. A big part of that was that it wasn't needed as often, but still.
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I can tell you he was around or near the LOS almost just as much his sophomore year as his junior year. It was just more of a focus last year. Just think people make more out of it than it really is, and I don't think it changed his draft stock that much. He will be a rover in the NFL.
 
#111
#111
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Of course it didn't hurt, but doing it all the time took away a dimension of our defense in the process. Again, Monte didn't reinvent Berry into this run-stuffing Safety. He was already good at that, it was just his focus last year.
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And... VT killed us by running it down our throats. Ole Miss... running it down our throats. I don't think it takes a wiley NFL vet to figure out maybe we needed some extra help stopping the run.
 
#112
#112
g8terh8ter_eric said:
I can tell you he was around or near the LOS almost just as much his sophomore year as his junior year. It was just more of a focus last year. Just think people make more out of it than it really is, and I don't think it changed his draft stock that much. He will be a rover in the NFL.
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Not really sure why you brought it up. Evidently the coaching staff did wrong by Berry. All he did was win the best DB award and get drafted #5.
 
#113
#113
g8terh8ter_eric said:
I can tell you he was around or near the LOS almost just as much his sophomore year as his junior year. It was just more of a focus last year. Just think people make more out of it than it really is, and I don't think it changed his draft stock that much. He will be a rover in the NFL.
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No, he wasn't. And even if he was, he was still dropping deep into coverage.
 
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#114
zjcvols said:
Oh really now? Please explain the seven picks to two then please...
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Because he played it in a lot of situational plays. He didn't spend the majority of the time there that year, like he did last year. More of a conviction of how bad our LB core sucked last year, IMO.
 
#115
#115
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Of course it didn't hurt, but doing it all the time took away a dimension of our defense in the process.
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If Eric Berry isn't playing in the box all the time last year, it wasn't going to matter if he had good cover skills or not because we couldn't defend the run with 7.
 
#117
#117
g8terh8ter_eric said:
I can tell you he was around or near the LOS almost just as much his sophomore year as his junior year. It was just more of a focus last year. Just think people make more out of it than it really is, and I don't think it changed his draft stock that much. He will be a rover in the NFL.
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Because he played it in a lot of situational plays. He didn't spend the majority of the time there that year, like he did last year. More of a conviction of how bad our LB core sucked last year, IMO.
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Consecutive.
 
#118
#118
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Because he played it in a lot of situational plays. He didn't spend the majority of the time there that year, like he did last year. More of a conviction of how bad our LB core sucked last year, IMO.
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But you said he spent just as much time near the LOS his sophomore as he did his junior year.

And yes, that is why he played near the LOS more. We needed an extra LB and JJ could cover so much ground that we could afford that.
 
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#120
GAVol said:
If Eric Berry isn't playing in the box all the time last year, it wasn't going to matter if he had good cover skills or not because we couldn't defend the run with 7.
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Bring in an extra LB, and let him play deep in those situations. Hell, if its an obvious run, bring 10 close.
 
#124
#124
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Bring in an extra LB, and let him play deep in those situations. Hell, if its an obvious run, bring 10 close.
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Great idea since we were blessed with such quality at LB last year. I don't know why we didn't play a Wide Tackle 6 with 4 linebackers and just let EB cover everybody.
 
#125
#125
kptvol said:
We were so loaded at LB. I hope the last part was a joke.
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He doesn't care. He just doesn't want to give any Kiffin any credit at all. No matter how silly it is. Hey, by the way, Jim Chaney was the only reason Jon Crompton became a draft pick.
 
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