IL school cancels trip to AZ

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Cash Vallin said:
Bull, if they aren't making any money to send back to their family, they're not wasting their time here.
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Dream world brother.

Get you a visa, and drive to Saltillo. Let me know if you would take that over anything you have seen here.

Of course your lib world tells you that the "bad" business man is responsible for why illegal immigration is a problem.

Oh wait, its not a problem, they vote for us. NM
 
#152
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BeecherVol said:
Dream world brother.

Get you a visa, and drive to Saltillo. Let me know if you would take that over anything you have seen here.

Of course your lib world tells you that the "bad" business man is responsible for why illegal immigration is a problem.

Oh wait, its not a problem, they vote for us. NM
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yeah, i know, the second the problem is centered toward the "con"servatives and their beloved business world, immediately the response is of course a liberal would think that. Too bad you're disregarding the simple fact, people come here to help their families. No money=not helping families.

The problem would be solved a heck of a lot faster than any check your license and go on your way idea ever would. News flash, checking their licenses isn't going to solve the problem. So they get caught??? So what. You think they wouldn't come back if the job is still here??? Man, you're just clueless. Can't believed I apologized to you. You only want the problem solved if government isn't involved in business.

It can intrude on people's lives at it wants. But the second the business world is affected, it's all of a sudden a bad idea.
 
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As I stated before. Illegal immigration is not a problem for you.

You do not like the AZ law due to the chances of it being enforced, in spite of the federal law that is not.

In this case, your cool with either as long as they are enforced to the extent of the first.
 
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BeecherVol said:
As I stated before. Illegal immigration is not a problem for you.

You do not like the AZ law due to the chances of it being enforced, in spite of the federal law that is not.

In this case, your cool with either as long as they are enforced to the extent of the first.
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Yeah, Illegals must be a HUGE problem over there in Cheatham. Illegal Immigration affects me a whole heck a lot more than it can you, simply because I live in a city and there's more of it.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
yeah, i know, the second the problem is centered toward the "con"servatives and their beloved business world, immediately the response is of course a liberal would think that. Too bad you're disregarding the simple fact, people come here to help their families. No money=not helping families.

The problem would be solved a heck of a lot faster than any check your license and go on your way idea ever would. News flash, checking their licenses isn't going to solve the problem. So they get caught??? So what. You think they wouldn't come back if the job is still here??? Man, you're just clueless. Can't believed I apologized to you. You only want the problem solved if government isn't involved in business.



It can intrude on people's lives at it wants. But the second the business world is affected, it's all of a sudden a bad idea.
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I didn't care if you apologized to me. Didn't ask for it.

And I guess you missed the part where I said that fining the businesses for hiring them was cool with me.

But I do find it funny how the businesses are the criminals for hiring them, but you make victims out of those who are the true criminals.

There is no need in you calling it a problem, its anything but that to you.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
Yeah, Illegals must be a HUGE problem over there in Cheatham. Illegal Immigration affects me a whole heck a lot more than it can you, simply because I live in a city and there's more of it.
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As in "problem" I mean you do see it as a problem.
 
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pretty sure it's illegal to hire an illegal citizen... nice try, bro. they're just as guilty.

and no need for you to call it a problem over there in cheatham county. it doesn't affect you nearly as much as somebody living in a city. More illegals are here than your run-down county. that's fine. keep living without diversity. it's the way the republicans want it, what with your 95.8% whites and your 2.1% hispanics.

Over here in the real world, we have 67 percent white. We know diversity. We know race relations. Until you move out of that waste of space, just stop speaking on race relations. You have no clue!
 
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Cash Vallin said:
pretty sure it's illegal to hire an illegal citizen... nice try, bro. they're just as guilty.

and no need for you to call it a problem over there in cheatham county. it doesn't affect you nearly as much as somebody living in a city. More illegals are here than your run-down county. that's fine. keep living without diversity. it's the way the republicans want it, what with your 95.8% whites and your 2.1% hispanics.

Over here in the real world, we have 67 percent white. We know diversity. We know race relations. Until you move out of that waste of space, just stop speaking on race relations. You have no clue!
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Funny tho.

Your scenario for fixing the problem does not include the the original criminal.

And of course again, you missed the part where I said that fining the businesses was cool with me. I guess that didn't fit your rant.

Up next.

Cash claims that middle TN farmers are driving illegals across the border in cuffs to work on the farm.
 
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I do not live in Cheatham County or Davidson County. Been to both more times than I can count. Nashville, by far, has more ghetto and run down areas than Cheatham County. I would never consider raising my family in Nashville, unless it was the Belle Meade or Brentwood areas.
 
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tim said:
I do not live in Cheatham County or Davidson County. Been to both more times than I can count. Nashville, by far, has more ghetto and run down areas than Cheatham County. I would never consider raising my family in Nashville, unless it was the Belle Meade or Brentwood areas.
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We're just over here in our non-diverse, racist, hillbilly county, clinging to our guns and Bibles.:hi:

Belle Meade is nice, if you got deep pockets. You would have to put up with Al Gore in your neighborhood tho. Better turn off your ac, and ride a bike everywhere.:eek:k:
 
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BeecherVol said:
We're just over here in our non-diverse, racist, hillbilly county, clinging to our guns and Bibles.:hi:

Belle Meade is nice, if you got deep pockets. You would have to put up with Al Gore in your neighborhood tho. Better turn off your ac, and ride a bike everywhere.:eek:k:
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Plenty of diversity in Cheatham Co. You have hills, valleys, a river, and a McDonalds. How much more diverse does it get?
 
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#165
But wait, if we go to businesses to figure out who is illegal, aren't we profiling them because they have a high number of Hispanic employees?

Dude, you don't have a damn clue. Your arguments are straw men and generalizations.

I'd say illegal immigration in Arizona is 99% hispanic. If you find them and deport them, it's a hell of a lot easier to find the 1%.

There's no one on here that is ok with illegal immigration, at all. However, there are a hell of a lot more Hispanic illegals than any other ethnic group. It's just the way it is. It's a lot more difficult to illegally emigrate from Europe to America than to run across a shoddily built border wall.

Stop acting like you're so in tune with racism and race relations because you know some black guys. From what you've posted on here, you actively seek out racism. Correlation != causation. Just because something happens to a black guy doesn't mean it's racism. It might have been the first person he noticed. I mean, he could have pointed him out for being black, but he still let him in the door. I'd imagine that a true racist bouncer and establishment would refuse service. And it raises the question why, if you knew the rules on tucked shirts, you chose to subvert them? Too good to follow rules?

Just because Arizona officials look for Hispanic illegals, it doesn't mean they're racist. It means they understand where these illegal aliens come from 999/1000 times.

There are plenty of people in big cities with black and Mexican friends who fully understand the negative implications of illegal immigration. Apparently to you, illegal immigration is only wrong if they're Hispanic.
 
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tim said:
I do not live in Cheatham County or Davidson County. Been to both more times than I can count. Nashville, by far, has more ghetto and run down areas than Cheatham County. I would never consider raising my family in Nashville, unless it was the Belle Meade or Brentwood areas.
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that's fine. i wouldn't live in any small town. seen more racism there despite only spending a small portion of my life there than I have in my time in a city.

don't want my kids to grow up thinking diversity is a bad thing. small towns preach nothing but.
 
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jwells said:
But wait, if we go to businesses to figure out who is illegal, aren't we profiling them because they have a high number of Hispanic employees?

Dude, you don't have a damn clue. Your arguments are straw men and generalizations.

I'd say illegal immigration in Arizona is 99% hispanic. If you find them and deport them, it's a hell of a lot easier to find the 1%.

There's no one on here that is ok with illegal immigration, at all. However, there are a hell of a lot more Hispanic illegals than any other ethnic group. It's just the way it is. It's a lot more difficult to illegally emigrate from Europe to America than to run across a shoddily built border wall.

Stop acting like you're so in tune with racism and race relations because you know some black guys. From what you've posted on here, you actively seek out racism. Correlation != causation. Just because something happens to a black guy doesn't mean it's racism. It might have been the first person he noticed. I mean, he could have pointed him out for being black, but he still let him in the door. I'd imagine that a true racist bouncer and establishment would refuse service. And it raises the question why, if you knew the rules on tucked shirts, you chose to subvert them? Too good to follow rules?

Just because Arizona officials look for Hispanic illegals, it doesn't mean they're racist. It means they understand where these illegal aliens come from 999/1000 times.

There are plenty of people in big cities with black and Mexican friends who fully understand the negative implications of illegal immigration. Apparently to you, illegal immigration is only wrong if they're Hispanic.
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trust me, i'm more in tune with race relations than 95 percent of this country. my life is nothing but diversity, not than any of you hillbillies think that's a good quality
 
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CountVolcula said:
Yes, lets do that!! All 242 million +

All the French from Canada.

African Americans in North America, since the were illegally brought here by our illegal caucasian ancestors, even though no immigration laws were present then.

How about all the Mexicans from Mexico, since the are illegally in Mexico, due to the Spanish taking that country by force?

All the Portuguese, German, and such in South America.

All the Boers in South Africa, Congo, Rwanda.

English from Ireland.

Yes, I see your logic
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I'm glad somebody does. :)
 
#170
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BeecherVol said:
I don't disagree with going after those that hire illegals.
But it's not that simple.
A government funded life in the US, beats 90% of any life they would live in Mexico. I have seen it first hand.
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That's the thing that most of the "ship their ass back" crowd doesn't get. Those who are here illegally are here because they are trying to escape poverty on a level that Americans can't possibly understand. Unlike others, I don't fault any human being for trying to make a better life for theirself or their family.
 
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BeecherVol said:
I didn't care if you apologized to me. Didn't ask for it.
And I guess you missed the part where I said that fining the businesses for hiring them was cool with me.
But I do find it funny how the businesses are the criminals for hiring them, but you make victims out of those who are the true criminals.
There is no need in you calling it a problem, its anything but that to you.
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As I said in my previous post, these people are trying to make a better life for themselves. I see them as criminal about as much as I see Rosa Parks as criminal.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
That's the thing that most of the "ship their ass back" crowd doesn't get. Those who are here illegally are here because they are trying to escape poverty on a level that Americans can't possibly understand. Unlike others, I don't fault any human being for trying to make a better life for theirself or their family.
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I can't say I've lived in those conditions, but my parents certainly have. As I've said before, that has made me a little more sympathetic to the situation they're trying to change, but not to the way they try to change it. Illegal immigration is bad for the country, and it should be stopped for the good of the country.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I can't say I've lived in those conditions, but my parents certainly have. As I've said before, that has made me a little more sympathetic to the situation they're trying to change, but not to the way they try to change it. Illegal immigration is bad for the country, and it should be stopped for the good of the country.
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I agree with this, and I don't know what the answer is. I still can't call someone a criminal because they are trying to better their life.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
I agree with this, and I don't know what the answer is. I still can't call someone a criminal because they are trying to better their life.
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I disagree. I can't say I don't understand their predicament, and I can't judge those who simply work hard and live a good life as bad people. However, the problems they cause economically, as well as problems related to crime, drugs, and violence make it seem pretty clear to me it's just something that can't be tolerated. One government's inability to accommodate all their citizens can't just become another governments responsibility.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
trust me, i'm more in tune with race relations than 95 percent of this country. my life is nothing but diversity, not than any of you hillbillies think that's a good quality
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You almost make me laugh.

tvolsfan said:
I can't say I've lived in those conditions, but my parents certainly have. As I've said before, that has made me a little more sympathetic to the situation they're trying to change, but not to the way they try to change it. Illegal immigration is bad for the country, and it should be stopped for the good of the country.
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I totally agree with this. I see some form of this almost every day.
 
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