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#510
#510
Carl Pickens said:
Anybody think the US is bombing empty buildings and etc. …… just for show?
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It doesn't matter what they bomb. This will do nothing to stop the resistance. If the Taliban and Houthi goat herders can keep on doing what they did, what makes this any different?

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. All this does is make the warmonger feel good and "save face".
 
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#513
Rasputin_Vol said:
It doesn't matter what they bomb. This will do nothing to stop the resistance. If the Taliban and Houthi gatherers can keep on doing what they did, what makes this any different?

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. All this does is make the warmonger feel good and "save face".
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There is some truth here. If we were really serious about getting rid of such factions in the ME then we would kill indiscriminately those we deem enemies. Everyone who financed them, everyone who fed them, sheltered them, or aided them in any way. Total wipe out. You have to make them fear you or they will just keep on keeping on. Some bombing here and there won't do shiz.
 
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#515
Orangeburst said:
why would they do that? are you implying electromagnetic interference?
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The Russians and Iranians use electronic warfare for that specific reason. They invested in missile defense and electronic warfare while the US invested in F-35s and feeding more welfare to the MIC that wasn't mission driven bur profit driven. We spend close to $1 trillion at the Pentagon but we are in the obviously weak position we are in right now. That should tell you that the MIC is a racket and has no intentions of actually defending the USA.
 
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norrislakevol said:
There is some truth here. If we were really serious about getting rid of such factions in the ME then we would kill indiscriminately those we deem enemies. Everyone who financed them, everyone who fed them, sheltered them, or aided them in any way. Total wipe out. You have to make them fear you or they will just keep on keeping on. Some bombing here and there won't do shiz.
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Why is the ME any of our business?
 
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#517
Rasputin_Vol said:
The Russians and Iranians use electronic warfare for that specific reason. They invested in missile defense and electronic warfare while the US invested in F-35s and feeding more welfare to the MIC that wasn't mission driven bur profit driven. We spend close to $1 trillion at the Pentagon but we are in the obviously weak position we are in right now. That should tell you that the MIC is a racket and has no intentions of actually defending the USA.
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you dont know what you are talking about.
 
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#518
Orangeburst said:
you dont know what you are talking about.
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Keep coping.

It's obvious by now why the Iranians, Russians, Chinese and North Koreans can spend fractions less than the US yet have formidable defenses. The US spends hundreds of billions on nonsense.
 
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#519
Rasputin_Vol said:
Why is the ME any of our business?
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Well don't worry. With greater energy independence over the last 10 years or so we need them less, so we will slowly detach, care less, and probably just support our main ally, Israel. My points still remain though in how to truly defeat them.
 
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#520
Rasputin_Vol said:
Keep coping.

It's obvious by now why the Iranians, Russians, Chinese and North Koreans can spend fractions less than the US yet have formidable defenses. The US spends hundreds of billions on nonsense.
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I am not coping, I have intensively followed military systems as an interest for my entire life.
Russian and Iranian kit is junk.

We have updated Growler ALQ, existing and updated EW systems on ships, ECCM built into every tactical missile, Even EW capabilities with AESA radars including F-35, etc. THADD, PAC-3, GBI, SM family of missiles, RAM, ESSM, Manpad systems, all fielded and extremely good.

You dont know what you are talking about.
 
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Orangeburst said:
I am not coping, I have intensively followed military systems as an interest for my entire life.
Russian and Iranian kit is junk.

We have updated Growler ALQ, existing and updated EW systems on ships, ECCM built into every tactical missile, Even EW capabilities with AESA radars including F-35, etc. THADD, PAC-3, GBI, SM family of missiles, RAM, ESSM, Manpad systems, all fielded and extremely good.

You dont know what you are talking about.
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Add China to that too. Total junk.
 
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norrislakevol said:
Add China to that too. Total junk.
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I aint going that far..never underestimate an enemy with such finanicial resources and spying. I will say drones are the future and cheaply replaces an operable air force, but if SHT..I would take a stealthy bomber and fighter fleet unleashing holy hell on any adversary, plus we have our own drone programs as well.

Notice they fired hundreds of times and hit few targets. If we fired hundreds of anything, they are getting smashed.
 
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Orangeburst said:
I aint going that far..never underestimate an enemy with such finanicial resources and spying. I will say drones are the future and cheaply replaces an operable air force, but if SHT..I would take a stealthy bomber and fighter fleet unleashing holy hell on any adversary, plus we have our own drone programs as well.

Notice they fired hundreds of times and hit few targets. If we fired hundreds of anything, they are getting smashed.
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Well, for all the hoopla about China's navy, the vast majority of their vessels cannot sail beyond 1000 miles beyond their shores. They do not have a blue water fleet. To be fair, the only countries that have blue water fleets are the U.S., England, France, and Japan. The Chinese have missiles filled with water instead of fuel, missile silos without the capability of of even opening their hatch, copy cat planes that are waaaaay behind in technology and capability. They are a paper tiger, and their economy is in real trouble.
 
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norrislakevol said:
Well, for all the hoopla about China's navy, the vast majority of their vessels cannot sail beyond 1000 miles beyond their shores. They do not have a blue water fleet. To be fair, the only countries that have blue water fleets are the U.S., England, France, and Japan. The Chinese have missiles filled with water instead of fuel, missile silos without the capability of of even opening their hatch, copy cat planes that are waaaaay behind in technology and capability. They are a paper tiger, and their economy is in real trouble.
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I am witholding judgment because we havent seen their major combat systems in conflict.
They are in the Red Sea right now. I think their ability for long distance ops is impeded by logitical ships maybe, or lack of friendly ports. They are building a massive fleet.
The water in silos seems like a one off or opportunized propoganda, but who knows..which is the point..best not to underestimate. But I hope you are correct.
 
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Orangeburst said:
I am witholding judgment because we havent seen their major combat systems in conflict.
They are in the Red Sea right now. I think their ability for long distance ops is impeded by logitical ships maybe, or lack of friendly ports. They are building a massive fleet.
The water in silos seems like a one off or opportunized propoganda, but who knows..which is the point..best not to underestimate. But I hope you are correct.
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If you build cookie cutter ships, then they are toast against the better navies. You do bring up a good point though: When have they actually tested their combat systems in conflict? You learn from mistakes, and they haven't had that opportunity.
 
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