Is secession the answer?

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#526
Everything I learned about social democracy, I learned in Sunday School.

So long as any nation or confederation allows the teachings of Christ in their borders, there will be generations rising up to follow in Christ's footsteps and subverting the ideology of radical individualism. Rescue the perishing, care for the dying. Christ's teachings are the molecule of yeast in the unleavened dough.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Donald Trump didn't try to put a needle in your arm or force anything else upon you against your will. He just had mean tweets.
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Nope, he just tried to keep people from having their votes counted so he could stay in power. Then he pressured elected officials to do things to keep him in office. Then he encouraged his supporters to revolt.

Yep, totally not dictator behavior.

But sure, he just had mean tweets....
 
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InVOLuntary said:
It's my belief that the country is gone, it's too far gone to recover. Left socialist ideology is like an uncurable cancer. The msm and social media is a propaganda machine for this ideology. Sure, you can head to rural areas but how long before they branch out? You leftist can have it.
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I'm not a leftist and if its so bad here, you are welcome to move to a better country.
 
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hog88 said:
Majority rule?
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A) you're not going to get a majority anytime soon; b) we're not majority rule, we're a representative democracy (you might get the TN legislature to vote for it if you tell them we're forming Trumpistan); c) you're doing the same thing to the people that don't want to leave that you're complaining about (making political decisions that affect them even though they don't like that decision).
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Nope. That’s what you’re trying to sell but that’s not what’s the answers you got stated.
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Ok. "Stay right where they are and make everybody in the state that doesn't agree with them move or leave the union." You may commence parsing my statement. I probably won't argue with over some point I'm not trying to make all day.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
Ok. "Stay right where they are and make everybody in the state that doesn't agree with them move or leave the union." You may commence parsing my statement. I probably won't argue with over some point I'm not trying to make all day.
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I don’t need to parse. Not my gig. You’re blathering on a bunch of stupid **** and are spewing the same crap you usually mock on the love it or leave it. That’s not parsing that’s just pointing at your statements on this in whole and offering an opinion.
 
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#537
Another crazy idea: convince everyone who disagrees that your way of life is better and they should convert to it.

What exactly would make MeMyselfandIstan such a glorious utopia? How would the citizens safeguard against the siren call of other ideologies?
 
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AshG said:
Another crazy idea: convince everyone who disagrees that your way of life is better and they should convert to it.

What exactly would make MeMyselfandIstan such a glorious utopia? How would the citizens safeguard against the siren call of other ideologies?
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Why do they have to convert? How… tolerant of you?
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
So basically… ‘Murica love it or leave it?

I hope you loosened up your jaws and lips before this much talking out of both sides of your mouth.
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I've never threatened to leave or dissolve the union. It was @InVOLuntary 's idea. If those are the two choices, I'm all for those that don't like it finding some place better instead of inconveiencing the rest of us.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I don’t need to parse. Not my gig. You’re blathering on a bunch of stupid **** and are spewing the same crap you usually mock on the love it or leave it. That’s not parsing that’s just pointing at your statements on this in whole and offering an opinion.
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All you do is make ish up for people and pretend you have some brilliant argument without addressing the subject.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
I've never threatened to leave or dissolve the union. It was @InVOLuntary 's idea. If those are the two choices, I'm all for those that don't like it finding some place better instead of inconveiencing the rest of us.
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Nice non sequitur. You have said leave if you don’t like it at least twice this morning in replies to me or posts I’ve quoted. That’s directly in line with the love it or leave it mantra and you look like a hypocrite
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Nice non sequitur. You have said leave if you don’t like it at least twice this morning in replies to me or posts I’ve quoted. That’s directly in line with the love it or leave it mantra and you look like a hypocrite
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If you would rather not address the issue thats cool.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
If you would rather not address the issue thats cool.
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It’s been addressed. You’re the only one trying to force people to leave here. Multiple people said everyone can stay put after the divorce. In not having an answer for that you’re now flapping around like a fish out of water. So address the issue yourself maybe?
 
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A new poll commissioned by the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics indicates a sizable proportion of Americans support the concept of secession from the Union, 52% & 41%.

52% of Trump voters agreed that the situation in America is such that I would favor red states seceding from the Union to form their own country.

41% of Biden voters agreed that the situation in America is such that I would favor blue states seceding from the Union to form their own country.

In a February Zogby poll, 46% of Americans have previously expressed their view that the United States is destined for another Civil War.

“The divide between Trump and Biden voters is deep, wide, and dangerous. The scope is unprecedented, and it will not be easily fixed,” said UVA Center for Politics Director Larry J. Sabato of the poll. The UVA poll questioned 1,001 Trump voters and 1,011 Biden voters from July to August.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
It’s been addressed. You’re the only one trying to force people to leave here. Multiple people said everyone can stay put after the divorce. In not having an answer for that you’re now flapping around like a fish out of water. So address the issue yourself maybe?
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They have to stay put in A DIFFFERENT FREAKING COUNTRY.
 
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