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what's with your absolutes? they must either be dead, or 100% behind and responsible for Hamas.

its lazy and dishonest.

just because you don't see it on your very Israeli friendly and centric news sources, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Unfortunately they are at war. If there was any decent I’d see it. It’s not there. I’ve looked.
Lazy and dishonest is assuming someone it’s looking around because they don’t agree with you
 
lol. you aren't that naive.

there is a reason there is a 90 plus percent incumbency rate. and it certainly isn't because we are holding them responsible. and remember, according to your own standard, it doesn't matter what an individual does in an election, or even if there is one, they are directly responsible for the actions of those in charge. that goes far beyond voting every 2/4/6 years.
Holy ****.
Pick a spot and put down your goalposts.

We have elections. We vote. If someone tries to change that the shooting would start.
They don’t have elections because they accept it. Maybe they should speak up and speak out about their leadership that brought hell to their lives
 
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It’s interesting that some want to argue what the hope the Palestinians believe as opposed to what they clearly say they believe
 
what's with your absolutes? they must either be dead, or 100% behind and responsible for Hamas.

its lazy and dishonest.

just because you don't see it on your very Israeli friendly and centric news sources, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

What if that 100% is 75% behind and responsible for Hamas? Would that change your opinions on anything
 
What if that 100% is 75% behind and responsible for Hamas? Would that change your opinions on anything
I think it is pretty safe to say that the majority of those people, whether they support Hammas or not, do not think that Israel should exist .. and if there is contrary information out there please bring it forward.. (Anthony Bourdain shows do not count) LMAO..or wHaT aRe yOur SoUrcEs? As some people on her like to do.. personally I feel pretty confident in my assertion.. it is their M.O… death to Israel, death to America.. that’s pretty much the mantra.. their entire religious existence is based upon the premise that it is encouraged to lie to ‘infidels’.. therefore you cannot trust anything any of these people say.. we cannot apply our Western mindset to a Middle Eastern problem.. the only way to possibly get on that level is to try and look at everything as if we were in the Crusades.. instead of ‘hey, will you come to church with me?’ No, it’s more like I will burn you at the stake or behead you.. and now you are thinking on these people’s level
 
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USAID gave nearly $1M to Gaza charity tied to Hamas, up to six days before Oct. 7 attack on Israel​


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Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh is associated with a Gaza charity that raked in nearly $1 million from the US federal government.

A Gaza-based nonprofit tied to the son of a Hamas leader received nearly $1 million in aid from the US government — with one grant arriving less than a week before the Oct. 7 terrorist strikes on Israel, according to a report.

Bayader for Environment and Development Association has secured $900,000 from the US Agency for International Development (USAID) over seven years.

The most recent grant, for $15,219, was paid out on Oct,.1, 2023, six days before the Hamas attacks on Israel which left 1,200 Israelis dead.

Bayader, which works to help children and rehabilitate polluted areas in Gaza, according to its website, is associated with Abdul Salam Haniyeh — a son of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh, who organized the terror attack on Israel, according to a report last week from Middle East Forum, a Philadelphia-based think tank.

 

USAID gave nearly $1M to Gaza charity tied to Hamas, up to six days before Oct. 7 attack on Israel​


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Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh is associated with a Gaza charity that raked in nearly $1 million from the US federal government.

A Gaza-based nonprofit tied to the son of a Hamas leader received nearly $1 million in aid from the US government — with one grant arriving less than a week before the Oct. 7 terrorist strikes on Israel, according to a report.

Bayader for Environment and Development Association has secured $900,000 from the US Agency for International Development (USAID) over seven years.

The most recent grant, for $15,219, was paid out on Oct,.1, 2023, six days before the Hamas attacks on Israel which left 1,200 Israelis dead.

Bayader, which works to help children and rehabilitate polluted areas in Gaza, according to its website, is associated with Abdul Salam Haniyeh — a son of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh, who organized the terror attack on Israel, according to a report last week from Middle East Forum, a Philadelphia-based think tank.

So we should abolish USAID? You promise?
 
Holy ****.
Pick a spot and put down your goalposts.

We have elections. We vote. If someone tries to change that the shooting would start.
They don’t have elections because they accept it. Maybe they should speak up and speak out about their leadership that brought hell to their lives
They accept it because they know they'll probably get killed if they rock the boat. Look what Hamas did to their opponents as soon as they took over with Israel's help.
 
I think it is pretty safe to say that the majority of those people, whether they support Hammas or not, do not think that Israel should exist .. and if there is contrary information out there please bring it forward.. (Anthony Bourdain shows do not count) LMAO..or wHaT aRe yOur SoUrcEs? As some people on her like to do.. personally I feel pretty confident in my assertion.. it is their M.O… death to Israel, death to America.. that’s pretty much the mantra.. their entire religious existence is based upon the premise that it is encouraged to lie to ‘infidels’.. therefore you cannot trust anything any of these people say.. we cannot apply our Western mindset to a Middle Eastern problem.. the only way to possibly get on that level is to try and look at everything as if we were in the Crusades.. instead of ‘hey, will you come to church with me?’ No, it’s more like I will burn you at the stake or behead you.. and now you are thinking on these people’s level
How do you think the Palestinian Christians feel about it?
BTW, burning at the stake is since the Middle Ages more a European thing. Church and state killed a lot of witches and heretics that way.
 
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"During a recent appearance on Dr. Phil Primetime, the son of Hamas co-founder Sheikh Hassan Yousef spoke out against those in the United States who support the Palestinian terrorist organization in its war against Israel calling them "useful idiots."

"Mosab Hassan Yousef took particular aim at American college students who parrot Hamas talking points in the name of the "free Palestine" movement, calling them "useful idiots" and suggesting that they "need to go to a mental asylum."

"It's very disappointing to see Americans supporting Hamas and thinking that Hamas is a cool thing," he said an April 2 interview on the show alongside two pro-Palestinian college students from Michigan, per the New York Post, lamenting the fact that many Americans view Hamas militants as "freedom fighters."

"Hamas does not respect any of those followers," he added, referring to those on the left who believe the Palestinian cause fits under the intersectional umbrella alongside Black Lives Matter and the LGBTQ movement, claiming that the terrorist group would "torture and massacre them with no mercy."
 
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They accept it because they know they'll probably get killed if they rock the boat. Look what Hamas did to their opponents as soon as they took over with Israel's help.
So if they don’t think it’s important enough to disagree with their leaders then why should anyone else think they don’t support Hamas?
Or is this simply another case of mericans knowing what’s best for the rest of the world weather they like it or not?
 
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So if they don’t think it’s important enough to disagree with their leaders then why should anyone else think they don’t support Hamas?
Or is this simply another case of mericans knowing what’s best for the rest of the world weather they like it or not?
That doesn't make any sense, but you know that. Not trying to overthrow them doesn't mean they agree with them.
 
That doesn't make any sense, but you know that. Not trying to overthrow them doesn't mean they agree with them.
so you know what they’re thinking because,,?
ill stick to listening when they speak. And right now they are clearly pro Hamas. You not liking or believing what they say and do doesn’t change observable reality
 
so you know what they’re thinking because,,?
ill stick to listening when they speak. And right now they are clearly pro Hamas. You not liking or believing what they say and do doesn’t change observable reality
Well as mentioned in post 20,283, people tend to rally behind their leaders in wartime even if they despise them in normal times.
 
It would also explain a lot of the immoral bloodlust we see coming from Zionists.
And here comes the irrelevant and irrational nonsense to justify your beliefs.
It’s ok to have a different opinion. It’s not because you have a low iq or that you hate Jews and love the stars and bars
 
“Impossible, the Jerusalem Post article gave me an excuse to say Palestinian civilians = Hamas because of this one guy, so everything he says is 100% fact”
Tell me about your experiences in Israel and Gaza. Or do the people who live there knowing more about the situation only apply to New York?
 
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I think it is pretty safe to say that the majority of those people, whether they support Hammas or not, do not think that Israel should exist .. and if there is contrary information out there please bring it forward.. (Anthony Bourdain shows do not count) LMAO..or wHaT aRe yOur SoUrcEs? As some people on her like to do.. personally I feel pretty confident in my assertion.. it is their M.O… death to Israel, death to America.. that’s pretty much the mantra.. their entire religious existence is based upon the premise that it is encouraged to lie to ‘infidels’.. therefore you cannot trust anything any of these people say.. we cannot apply our Western mindset to a Middle Eastern problem.. the only way to possibly get on that level is to try and look at everything as if we were in the Crusades.. instead of ‘hey, will you come to church with me?’ No, it’s more like I will burn you at the stake or behead you.. and now you are thinking on these people’s level

Woohhhh. Hold in now. Islam is peace. Its the zionist and christians who are evil. Just ask the board.
 
Tell me about your experiences in Israel and Gaza. Or do the people who live there knowing more about the situation only apply to New York?
We’re talking about Palestinians. If you’re pretending you know the “people who live there” through knowing Israeli citizens that are at odds with Palestinians, then if anything you’re even less informed about what Palestinians are thinking, not more as you’re pretending
 

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