Keystone Pipeline - a red line?

[Obsessed]

The majority of the land will not be taken! The company will pay the landowner to put a pipeline right of way in. The landowner still owns the land.

Exactly. The land owner owns the land. The company owns the pipe. The landowner is compensated for his troubles (nicely I might add)

 

[hog88]

Doesn't make it right.

No, I agree I hate imminent domain but understand why it's needed.

 

[Vol8188]

Exactly. The land owner owns the land. The company owns the pipe. The landowner is compensated for his troubles (nicely I might add)

TransCanada Tries To Seize U.S. Land For Keystone Pipeline - Forbes

This article from forbes doesn't make it sound like they are going to still own their land. Nor does it sound like this is being down by the government. But a private foreign business.

Why would we allow a private foreign business to use imminent domain in the us?

 

[Vol8188]

No, I agree I hate imminent domain but understand why it's needed.

Why is it needed here?

 

[#VFL__]

TransCanada Tries To Seize U.S. Land For Keystone Pipeline - Forbes

This article from forbes doesn't make it sound like they are going to still own their land. Nor does it sound like this is being down by the government. But a private foreign business.

Why would we allow a private foreign business to use imminent domain in the us?

Because those stocks are going to make for a great vacation home!

 

[Vol8188]

Because those stocks are going to make for a great vacation home!

What?

 

[hog88]

Why is it needed here?

If not for imminent domain we wouldn't have interstates, airports, railroads, ports, power transmission lines ext ext.

Now you tell me how we could do without.

 

[Vol8188]

If not for imminent domain we wouldn't have interstates, airports, railroads, ports, power transmission lines ext ext.

Now you tell me how we could do without.

I didn't ask why it's required. I asked why it's required here.

 

[hog88]

I didn't ask why it's required. I asked why it's required here.

:thud:

 

[Vol8188]

:thud:

?

 

[hog88]

?

Because not all Americans would sell land for the greater need of society. That's why it's needed in the good 'ol USA.

 

[Vol8188]

Because not all Americans would sell land for the greater need of society. That's why it's needed in the good 'ol USA.

You're missing the question. I understand why it exists.

I don't understand why it is needed here.

 

[hog88]

You're missing the question. I understand why it exists.

I don't understand why it is needed here.

Because not all Americans would sell land for the greater need of society. That's why it's needed in the good 'ol USA.

^ This is why it's needed here.

Do I need to write it in crayon with pictures?

 

[Vol8188]

^ This is why it's needed here.

Do I need to write it in crayon with pictures?

Here as in: in this scenario. Why is it needed for the Trans canada pipeline?

 

[Obsessed]

You're missing the question. I understand why it exists.

I don't understand why it is needed here.

If this actually happens, it will be the first time I've ever seen that go down and I've been part of hundreds of gas/methane wells.

 

[Vol8188]

If this actually happens, it will be the first time I've ever seen that go down and I've been part of hundreds of gas/methane wells.

Seen imminent domain used?

 

[hog88]

Here as in: in this scenario. Why is it needed for the Trans canada pipeline?

National Security.

 

[Vol8188]

National Security.

Lol what?

 

[Obsessed]

Seen imminent domain used?

Nope. The gas company's always worked with the land owners.

 

[Vol8188]

Nope. The gas company's always worked with the land owners.

Transcanada has already done this about 100 times, if not more for the pipeline.

 

[hog88]

Lol what?

Think about it.

We would essentially control enough oil, about all of North Americas production. This would almost completely offset the ME, Russia and Venezuela and all of the instability associated with them.

 

[Obsessed]

Transcanada has already done this about 100 times, if not more for the pipeline.

Never contracted to them.

They have done this 100 times in the states?

 

[Vol8188]

Think about it.

We would essentially control enough oil, about all of North Americas production. This would almost completely offset the ME, Russia and Venezuela and all of the instability associated with them.

You do know that Canada is already where the majority of US oil comes from, right? What does this change?

 

[LouderVol]

has all the pipeline land been bought up? and has the final location been determined? If not for the first and if so on the second I need to buy up some land real quick.

 

[hog88]

You do know that Canada is already where the majority of US oil comes from, right? What does this change?

They can't refine it or process the stuff from the tar sands, we can. And you're wrong we produce more crude than Canada. They are just our biggest importer.