Kim Potter sentenced.

#176
#176
Rasputin_Vol said:
You still are not making sense. He was on the ground for 9 minutes. Why didn't they hand cuff him if the threat was gone? Now you are saying they didn't know what he was high on, yet you came in quizzing me about subduing someone on PCP. You are just doing everything you can to justify the unjustifiable.
Click to expand...
Maybe it just doesn’t make sense because you have no experience in the field. Idk. I reread it and it makes perfect sense to me.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rickyvol77
#177
#177
VolStrom said:
So why didn't they put cuffs on his hands and feet once he was on the ground?
Click to expand...
Because he was not resisting anymore I guess. All I can do is speculate on what I would’ve done and why. I would’ve put my knee on his neck too given the opportunity. But not for 9 min. Once he stopped resisting, I would’ve had the others help cuff him and rolled him to his butt. But that’s just me
 
#178
#178
1vol8 said:
Because he was not resisting anymore I guess. All I can do is speculate on what I would’ve done and why. I would’ve put my knee on his neck too given the opportunity. But not for 9 min. Once he stopped resisting, I would’ve had the others help cuff him and rolled him to his butt. But that’s just me
Click to expand...
You are not making any sense. At all..

Hell, not even @Rickyvol77 is offering an assist.
 
  • Like
Reactions: VolStrom
#179
#179
Rasputin_Vol said:
You are not making any sense. At all..

Hell, not even @Rickyvol77 is offering an assist.
Click to expand...
How does it not make sense? The man was high. On what no one knew. He resisted which leads to him being in the position he was in. Once subdued, the back up officers provided assistance with crowd control while Chauvin held detain on Floyd. If the question is “why wasn’t he handcuffed?” , the answer is likely because the backup officers were preoccupied with said crowd control and Chauvin was no match for Floyd by himself IF he were high on PCP. Get it now?
 
#180
#180
VolStrom said:
So why didn't they put cuffs on his hands and feet once he was on the ground?
Click to expand...

My other question from the first time I saw the video was why did it take over 10 minutes for the cavalry to arrive. Those three cops in the video didn't get much help - or maybe the other two didn't communicate very well.
 
#181
#181
1vol8 said:
How does it not make sense? The man was high. On what no one knew. He resisted which leads to him being in the position he was in. Once subdued, the back up officers provided assistance with crowd control while Chauvin held detain on Floyd. If the question is “why wasn’t he handcuffed?” , the answer is likely because the backup officers were preoccupied with said crowd control and Chauvin was no match for Floyd by himself IF he were high on PCP. Get it now?
Click to expand...

My fault, he was already handcuffed...

 
#184
#184
GroverCleveland said:
I've told my sons to avoid doing things that put one in a bad situation. Don't rob banks, don't walk through a bad part of town after midnight with a roll of $100 bills in your hand, don't drink and drive, don't beat up on women, etc, etc, etc. Instead, do things to avoid interaction with law enforcement, like keeping your tag and driver's license current, etc, etc, etc.

The reason why is because the more times one puts oneself in a bad situation, the higher the probability to eventually have a bad outcome. In the George Floyd case, ole' Saint George spent his entire life making bad decisions until finally he put himself into a situation where someone else made a bad decision: he died and the other guy is in prison.

Daunte put himself in a bad situation, an accident happened and he won a Darwin award. I do not believe Potter had any intention of using deadly force in this case; she made a horrible mistake. Highly probable he's not there if he had not made a series of bad decisions leading up to the event. Hate it. Do not for one instance believe he deserved to die. But people die all the time from making stupid decisions. Stop making stupid decisions.
Click to expand...
Sounds like White Supremacy and Privilege...or common sense.
 
#185
#185
Rasputin_Vol said:
So then... why was there still a need to be on his neck for that long if he is handcuffed and on the ground?

This actually makes your case worse, right?
Click to expand...
Yes it does. And I’m man enough to admit when I’m wrong. However the original argument is the fact that it wasn’t 1st degree. Still isn’t. It still wasn’t premeditated or intentional. I still see negligent Homicide
 
#186
#186
1vol8 said:
Yes it does. And I’m man enough to admit when I’m wrong. However the original argument is the fact that it wasn’t 1st degree. Still isn’t. It still wasn’t premeditated or intentional. I still see negligent Homicide
Click to expand...
A knee on a neck for 10min is absolutely intentional
 
#190
#190
Rasputin_Vol said:
You are not making any sense. At all..

Hell, not even @Rickyvol77 is offering an assist.
Click to expand...
The officers should’ve worked together “quicker” to subdue, cuff and get him in the car initially however as he said someone on drugs is a little different strength wise and controlling wise and when Floyd claimed he couldn’t breathe the officers at that point couldn’t put him in the car and had to lay him and wait for medical to arrive. I also believe the crowd didn’t help and distracted the other officers.
 
  • Like
Reactions: AM64
#193
#193
utvolpj said:
So you think 10min of a knee on an unresponsive, handcuffed man's neck isn't intentional? Yeah, I'm clueless. You're an apologist and part of the problem
Click to expand...
Yes. You are completely clueless and you’re speaking out of ignorance. Open your mind to what I’m about to say. Hypothetically speaking, if I were in the process of detaining you and I kneel on your neck. There is a natural gap created between my shin and the ground therefore not creating “pressure” on your neck unless YOU try to move. That holds true as long as I remain on the balls of my foot. However, if I wanted to intentionally kill you, all I have to do is is straighten my ankle, driving my shin into your neck and snapping your neck or choking you out. Chauvin remained on the balls of his foot the entire 10 min (yes too long for visual purposes) and never left that position. Therefore giving Floyd adequate air supply. So you don’t know what you’re talking about.

On the flip side, one side effect of Fentanyl is heart failure if introduced to a high stress situation while on it. Given the FACT that Chauvin stayed on the ball of foot, is it more likely that Floyd died from Asphyxia or heart failure?

Like I told you before, leave your “expert” analysis at the door.
 
  • Like
Reactions: AM64 and Rickyvol77
#194
#194
1vol8 said:
Yes. You are completely clueless and you’re speaking out of ignorance. Open your mind to what I’m about to say. Hypothetically speaking, if I were in the process of detaining you and I kneel on your neck. There is a natural gap created between my shin and the ground therefore not creating “pressure” on your neck unless YOU try to move. That holds true as long as I remain on the balls of my foot. However, if I wanted to intentionally kill you, all I have to do is is straighten my ankle, driving my shin into your neck and snapping your neck or choking you out. Chauvin remained on the balls of his foot the entire 10 min (yes too long for visual purposes) and never left that position. Therefore giving Floyd adequate air supply. So you don’t know what you’re talking about.

On the flip side, one side effect of Fentanyl is heart failure if introduced to a high stress situation while on it. Given the FACT that Chauvin stayed on the ball of foot, is it more likely that Floyd died from Asphyxia or heart failure?

Like I told you before, leave your “expert” analysis at the door.
Click to expand...

Man, they should have called you in as an expert witness to explain to everybody that Chauvin didn't actually kill the man, the man killed himself.

I put a pillow over the baby's head but it would have been able to breathe still if it didn't turn face up, so I didn't kill it. It killed itself.
 
  • Like
Reactions: VolFaninFla, Rasputin_Vol and 1vol8
#195
#195
n_huffhines said:
Man, they should have called you in as an expert witness to explain to everybody that Chauvin didn't actually kill the man, the man killed himself.

I put a pillow over the baby's face but it would have been able to breathe still if it didn't turn face up, so I didn't kill it. It killed itself.
Click to expand...
Yes he did
 
#196
#196
1vol8 said:
Yes. You are completely clueless and you’re speaking out of ignorance. Open your mind to what I’m about to say. Hypothetically speaking, if I were in the process of detaining you and I kneel on your neck. There is a natural gap created between my shin and the ground therefore not creating “pressure” on your neck unless YOU try to move. That holds true as long as I remain on the balls of my foot. However, if I wanted to intentionally kill you, all I have to do is is straighten my ankle, driving my shin into your neck and snapping your neck or choking you out. Chauvin remained on the balls of his foot the entire 10 min (yes too long for visual purposes) and never left that position. Therefore giving Floyd adequate air supply. So you don’t know what you’re talking about.

On the flip side, one side effect of Fentanyl is heart failure if introduced to a high stress situation while on it. Given the FACT that Chauvin stayed on the ball of foot, is it more likely that Floyd died from Asphyxia or heart failure?

Like I told you before, leave your “expert” analysis at the door.
Click to expand...
You act as if there is only one way to put pressure on a neck. Also if he was on fentanyl then the added stress of being short of air would also be a huge issue. His goal was to cause pain, stress and to make life very uncomfortable for the restrained man lying face down. That shows intent
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rasputin_Vol
#197
#197
utvolpj said:
You act as if there is only one way to put pressure on a neck. Also if he was on fentanyl then the added stress of being short of air would also be a huge issue. His goal was to cause pain, stress and to make life very uncomfortable for the restrained man lying face down. That shows intent
Click to expand...

The idea that you can't put enough weight on him with the ball of your foot on the ground makes no sense to me. He's saying "intentional" killing which I don't think anybody in here is alleging. He just intentionally dug in too far with the knee.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rasputin_Vol
#198
#198
utvolpj said:
You act as if there is only one way to put pressure on a neck. Also if he was on fentanyl then the added stress of being short of air would also be a huge issue. His goal was to cause pain, stress and to make life very uncomfortable for the restrained man lying face down. That shows intent
Click to expand...
BS. You’re looking at it through a liberal lens and only how it “looked”. Where his neck was placed under Chauvins shin, he essentially had his head stuck been between fence posts. Air supply wasn’t the issue. Fentanyl however was.
 
#199
#199
n_huffhines said:
The idea that you can't put enough weight on him with the ball of your foot on the ground makes no sense to me. He's saying "intentional" killing which I don't think anybody in here is alleging. He just intentionally dug in too far with the knee.
Click to expand...
Kneel on the ground with the ball of your foot in place and tell me if a man’s neck wouldn’t comfortably fit in there and get back to me. I’m 5’10 and I can tell you with absolute certainty that it can. But try for yourself.
 
#200
#200
1vol8 said:
Kneel on the ground with the ball of your foot in place and tell me if a man’s neck wouldn’t comfortably fit in there and get back to me. I’m 5’10 and I can tell you with absolute certainty that it can. But try for yourself.
Click to expand...

Weird how the first picture I found doesn't have the ball of his foot on the ground, so I guess we don't even have to figure out if ^ this is BS or not.

1645459242385.png
 
  • Like
Reactions: VolFaninFla and Rasputin_Vol
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top