Kirby Smart Named UGA Coach?

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Yep, solid hire nothing more but you don't fire a 10 win coach and replace him with solid hires. Is he a better offensive mind than Richt? Not sure how anyone could make that leap and it's the same boat UT found itself in after firing Fulmer. You don't replace a hall of fame caliber coach with solid hires.
 
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If you look at this objectively, what has UGA really accomplished? Had UGA become a bit stale under Richt? Maybe. Will their defense improve that much more dramatically than it had played under Pruitt or Grantham? Unlikely, considering both of them are Saban disciples. Will the offense dramatically improve under Chaney compared to how it performed under Richt and Schotty? Unlikely, Richt has been very good at developing qb's into very good college qb's and Schotty worked for several years with NFL qb's. Both have had a much more consistent track record in working with qb's and running offenses as compared to Chaney. Richt was not passed his prime like Fulmer, the game had passed him by and he was much older. Richt is still relatively young and has several good years ahead of him and the track record of Saban defensive assistants on their own has not been a great one to say the least. This is an unnecessary gamble by UGA, why not let him get some experience at another program and then call him home. He would not turn them away.
 
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landscapingvol said:
If you look at this objectively, what has UGA really accomplished? Had UGA become a bit stale under Richt? Maybe. Will their defense improve that much more dramatically than it had played under Pruitt or Grantham? Unlikely, considering both of them are Saban disciples. Will the offense dramatically improve under Chaney compared to how it performed under Richt and Schotty? Unlikely, Richt has been very good at developing qb's into very good college qb's and Schotty worked for several years with NFL qb's. Both have had a much more consistent track record in working with qb's and running offenses as compared to Chaney. Richt was not passed his prime like Fulmer, the game had passed him by and he was much older. Richt is still relatively young and has several good years ahead of him and the track record of Saban defensive assistants on their own has not been a great one to say the least. This is an unnecessary gamble by UGA, why not let him get some experience at another program and then call him home. He would not turn them away.
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don't disagree on the reasoning to fire Richt, but there's no arguing the program had plateaued. for Richt to win a NT at UGA, it was going to be circumstance driven. he hadn't shown the ability to get over the hump. his firing wasn't, i think anyway, an indictment on his inability or ineptness as a coach, as much as it was an acknowledgement that they were what they were, and it showed no signs of changing.

Smart is, well, Mark Richt 15 years ago. and Mark Richt was good for GA for a long time. i think Smart will be too. i don't think he's as much of a gamble as say...lane kiffin...:)

the only thing you don't have with Smart is a proven HC track record. everything else he brings to the table.

the staff so far isn't blowing anyone away, but i dont' think it has to either. they're in one of the richest recruiting grounds in the country, and they have solid coaches hired so far.

Bottom line, GA didn't have to hedge their bet or go out on a limb. and they got who they wanted.

i'd say, outside looking in, not too shabby. if this doesn't work, it will be because Smart just isn't a head coach, just a really good Coordinator.
 
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Richt was classy. Smart is just like the majority of coaches only in it for themselves. Coach and school first then the athletes. Richt put athletes first.
 
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Saw a comment from a recruit at the Open that said to the effect..."you can tell Smart is making an impact, practices are more intense.... they were a little soft
last year." Thats not verbatim, but very close. No shooting the messenger.
 
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jakez4ut said:
don't disagree on the reasoning to fire Richt, but there's no arguing the program had plateaued. for Richt to win a NT at UGA, it was going to be circumstance driven. he hadn't shown the ability to get over the hump. his firing wasn't, i think anyway, an indictment on his inability or ineptness as a coach, as much as it was an acknowledgement that they were what they were, and it showed no signs of changing.

Smart is, well, Mark Richt 15 years ago. and Mark Richt was good for GA for a long time. i think Smart will be too. i don't think he's as much of a gamble as say...lane kiffin...:)

the only thing you don't have with Smart is a proven HC track record. everything else he brings to the table.

the staff so far isn't blowing anyone away, but i dont' think it has to either. they're in one of the richest recruiting grounds in the country, and they have solid coaches hired so far.

Bottom line, GA didn't have to hedge their bet or go out on a limb. and they got who they wanted.

i'd say, outside looking in, not too shabby. if this doesn't work, it will be because Smart just isn't a head coach, just a really good Coordinator.
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Well said. that's a great comment. i really like the coaching hires overall. the best recruiting staff we have had in athens. also with guys like pittman, rocker, and tucker we are in some good shape with our position coaches. time will tell if kirby was the right hire, but it's clear his hire (due to who hired him) has changed the commitment regarding spending from our athletic department. prime example is last year we had 1 plane we used for recruiting. this year we spent $550k on 4 planes and 1 helicopter. We also have I believe 10 more support staff than we had last year with CMR and our s&c spending has increased as well with our new hires (we hired 2 guys to run s&c who had much more credentials than our previous guy). things are changing in athens and if what is rumored to be happening in may does then we will be getting an AD that isn't someone who has no clue what he is doing and someone who will devote the necessary resources to the football program.
 
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mitzustu said:
That's confusing. 550k isn't enough to buy 4 planes and a helicopter. That's all I got from that post.
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it's a huge change from last year when our staff was turned down for wanting to buy new golf carts.. lol the use of 4 planes and a helicopter for 550k shows the spending is now going to happen in athens.
 
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We were outplaying them early and lost that silly fumble on the 1.... It's worse this year. Win by 10 ;)
 
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Volstradamus said:
I guess the Vols only beat the dawgs by 10 then...they have helicopters and all
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i just don't know what kirby smart will do.. in his first year in just a month he outrecruited butch jones and if we get drob it will be a top 5 class for kirby. kirby smart will have top 5 classes yearly now. something we were not doing before he arrived in athens. oh btw wouldn't be surprised to see the dawgs destroy the volunteers to make it 6 out of 7 season we win. :) the vol's have shown nothing to say they can win 2 years in a row over the dawgs.
 
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ZeroDarkThirty said:
i just don't know what kirby smart will do.. in his first year in just a month he outrecruited butch jones and if we get drob it will be a top 5 class for kirby. kirby smart will have top 5 classes yearly now. something we were not doing before he arrived in athens. oh btw wouldn't be surprised to see the dawgs destroy the volunteers to make it 6 out of 7 season we win. :) the vol's have shown nothing to say they can win 2 years in a row over the dawgs.
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They have, and his name is Joshua Dobbs.
 
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ZeroDarkThirty said:
i just don't know what kirby smart will do.. in his first year in just a month he outrecruited butch jones and if we get drob it will be a top 5 class for kirby. kirby smart will have top 5 classes yearly now. something we were not doing before he arrived in athens. oh btw wouldn't be surprised to see the dawgs destroy the volunteers to make it 6 out of 7 season we win. :) the vol's have shown nothing to say they can win 2 years in a row over the dawgs.
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Try to not be so positive there buddy!
 
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ZeroDarkThirty said:
i just don't know what kirby smart will do.. in his first year in just a month he outrecruited butch jones and if we get drob it will be a top 5 class for kirby. kirby smart will have top 5 classes yearly now. something we were not doing before he arrived in athens. oh btw wouldn't be surprised to see the dawgs destroy the volunteers to make it 6 out of 7 season we win. :) the vol's have shown nothing to say they can win 2 years in a row over the dawgs.
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Guess we will find out soon enough.
 
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UGA has always recruited very well, there is so much talent in the state that even Hall of Fame coaches like Goff and Donnan lured Five stars to Athens. Even though he is a sniveling little whiner, if Smart is so elite as a recruiter why does he care if a kid that never plays transfers to Miami? He will just sign another five star back...

Plus, he now is even involved in pushing legislation thru lawmakers. Kudos to him for moving up to politician status so quickly.
 
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