Last UT QB who stared down his WRs through the whole route??

#101
#101
Orangeslice13 said:
Welcome to college football where players have to be developed and you go to war with the best you have.
Nico has played against 3 decent defenses…..ever. The o line isn’t helping him either. There were signs in the 4th last night that he’s starting to get it.
When he turns the corner don’t come in here singing his praises. And absolutely don’t start talking about the wonderful job Hypel did developing him
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I've spent quite a bit of time defending Joe Milton's talent which got him to the NFL BUT did we see development during his time, including sitting behind Hooker, at UT? He's a good, serviceable, extremely athletic QB but did he gain much ground playing at UT?

Nico, too, is a very talented QB who also sat a year to pick up the system but he still looks like a true freshman out there. A gifted true freshman, but still a freshman.

I see a lot of talk saying "these guys are getting paid now and there's expectations." Josh Heupel is one of the highest paid coaches in college football........ there are expectations.
 
#102
#102
UTblood4life said:
That was Cromptons coming out party we throttled Georgia
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You’re right I got ahead of myself. I was speaking of Auburn the week before in the second half when the switch flipped. He was throwing into the end zone for the win in that game but ran out of time.
The point remains. Some guys take longer than others to catch up with the speed of SEC play
 
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#103
I’m not saying Nico is the greatest to ever play the game, but saying he is terrible is an overreaction. Yes, he is a red shirt freshman, yes he has been here for over a year, but there is a vast difference between doing something in practice and doing that same thing in a meaningful game time snap in front of tens of thousands of people. The only way you learn those things is by the mistakes he is making now. His offensive line at times is doing him zero favors. The rather lofty expectations the fans and media set for him were probably a little too high at the moment. His comparable would be Arch Manning, whose best opponent while starting was Mississippi State, and he didn’t look like a world beater against Miss State.

I don’t think his play alone has cost UT a game. It might have contributed to the Arkansas loss, but it was the #1 reason.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I've spent quite a bit of time defending Joe Milton's talent which got him to the NFL BUT did we see development during his time, including sitting behind Hooker, at UT? He's a good, serviceable, extremely athletic QB but did he gain much ground playing at UT?

Nico, too, is a very talented QB who also sat a year to pick up the system but he still looks like a true freshman out there. A gifted true freshman, but still a freshman.

I see a lot of talk saying "these guys are getting paid now and there's expectations." Josh Heupel is one of the highest paid coaches in college football........ there are expectations.
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And hooker was average at best his first season in command of the offense.
You also forget that Hypel was clear when he became so highly paid that he didn’t ask for it and didn’t believe he had earned it…..yet. His pay was about not losing him. The expectations on Hypel are just as high coming from himself as they are from you.
 
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#109
robbymoore94 said:
I’m not saying Nico is the greatest to ever play the game, but saying he is terrible is an overreaction. Yes, he is a red shirt freshman, yes he has been here for over a year, but there is a vast difference between doing something in practice and doing that same thing in a meaningful game time snap in front of tens of thousands of people. The only way you learn those things is by the mistakes he is making now. His offensive line at times is doing him zero favors. The rather lofty expectations the fans and media set for him were probably a little too high at the moment. His comparable would be Arch Manning, whose best opponent while starting was Mississippi State, and he didn’t look like a world beater against Miss State.

I don’t think his play alone has cost UT a game. It might have contributed to the Arkansas loss, but it was the #1 reason.
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Nico has been groomed for YEARS. He’s been to the elite camps, 7 on 7s, etc. This isn’t his first year. He’s competed against elite talent but now he has the deer in the headlights look. Maybe some of it is coaching but he’s definitely screwing up and panicking plenty on his own. Hopefully he gets it together sooner than later.
 
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#113
C-south said:
Nico has been groomed for YEARS. He’s been to the elite camps, 7 on 7s, etc. This isn’t his first year. He’s competed against elite talent but now he has the deer in the headlights look. Maybe some of it is coaching but he’s definitely screwing up and panicking plenty on his own. Hopefully he gets it together sooner than later.
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Sr OLmen shouldnt need more grooming either
 
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#115
BruiserVol said:
Too many people are giving the freshman pass. The guy was here as an early enrollee to begin with getting extra practices due to us being in a bowl game that season. Then he spent an entire year in our system. Then he spent an entire extended offseason again of practice due to another bowl game. Now he has been here again for this season! The guy has a ton to work with and he still doesn’t look good at all against anyone not named Chattanooga or Kent state. Oh but Iowa. Yeah, the slow ass team that wins in a conference where speed doesn’t matter? The team you brag on him for playing against with even less experience than he has now. He just isn’t showing us anything that says he has it. There are plenty of true freshman, not even rs freshman that light sec teams up and instantly you know they are going to be an issue. Nico has not shown that. He scrambles into bad lanes akwardly, forced picks, overthrows open receivers. We are overpaying. Period.
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Name the true freshmen who have "lit" it up in the SEC as a QB? You said "plenty". Name some of them.

Talking out of your ass
 
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#117
Pride85 said:
For the knuckleheads that always want the backup because the starter is terrible, check this out.
Nico Iamaleave is a redshirt FRESHMAN, starting his SEVENTH game. Here are his stats.
He is 6-1, NOT 1-6
1533 yards at a 65% completion rate
He has 9 tds and 3 ints.

Here the stats from another UT QB during their freshman year.

8-4
1141 yards at a 62% completion rate
11 tds and 6 ints.
You would cry " BENCH HIM, HE IS CLUELESS"!
Peyton might disagreeFor the knuckleheads that always want the backup because the starter is terrible, check this out.
Nico Iamaleave is a redshirt FRESHMAN, starting his SEVENTH game. Here are his stats.
He is 6-1, NOT 1-6
1533 yards at a 65% completion rate
He has 9 tds and 3 ints.

Here the stats from another UT QB during their freshman year.

8-4
1141 yards at a 62% completion rate
11 tds and 6 ints.
You would cry " BENCH HIM, HE IS CLUELESS"!
Peyton might disagree..

BTW, you are correct he is a REDSHIRT FRESHMAN. Exactly how many meaningful snaps did he have last year. Pull your head back into fresh air for a bit and think using facts for a change.
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Peyton was a true freshman in 1994 that had only gone through a one spring and one preseason camp. Nico is a redshirt freshman. He’s gone through 2 spring camps, 2 preseason camps, and a full season of football to include starting a bowl game.

Also, the game has changed so much since 1994 so comparing Peyton and Nico isn’t apples to apples.

Comparing Nico to Arch Manning would be more accurate in the modern era. Maybe throw Tua in the mix. Can’t think of anyone else at the moment.
 
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#120
Orangeslice13 said:
And hooker was average at best his first season in command of the offense.
You also forget that Hypel was clear when he became so highly paid that he didn’t ask for it and didn’t believe he had earned it…..yet. His pay was about not losing him. The expectations on Hypel are just as high coming from himself as they are from you.
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Trajectory: Rebuild year, amazing year, better than TN recent average year, same better than average year.

Is this year an improvement over last year? Pre-season we expected it to be but it's looking about like last year.

Let's say Nico is tired of not having time to work and running for his life a lot, feels he's not able to showcase his talents as well as he could..... and dips out after this year. Nico has to see that next year's OL looks even thinner and scarier than this year.

Once again we'll hear, Merk is essentially a freshman, he needs adjustment, he's not taken a lot of game snaps, etc, etc as he gets chased out of the collapsing pocket.

Heupel is known as an offense and QB guy. Oddly, our D is carrying the season and to a large extent carried us last year.

Trajectory and expectations. That's all.
 
#121
#121
Orangeslice13 said:
It’s not running OB but it’s the same thing.
Young players sometimes lose themselves in the moment
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Not sure it’s even comparable. A toss into the end zone at least gives us a chance. Not sure OSU’s qb was gonna break a 40 yard run whether he slid or not. Maybe a Hail Mary chance. If it was a bonehead play it still doesn’t excuse another.
 
#122
#122
tennesseeduke said:
Bryce is a bust in the NFL. Nico will not be!
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Tennessee greatest QB Peyton Manning stats in his 4 seasons. Compare season 1 to Nico season 1.

Season Team Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate
1994* Tennessee SEC QB 11 89 144 61.8 1141 11 7.6 6 4.2 7.9 7.58 12.8 103.7 145.2
1995* Tennessee SEC QB 11 244 380 64.2 2954 22 5.8 4 1.1 7.8 8.46 12.1 268.5 146.5
1996* Tennessee SEC QB 11 243 380 63.9 3287 20 5.3 12 3.2 8.7 8.28 13.5 298.8 147.7
1997* Tennessee SEC QB 12 287 477 60.2 3819 36 7.5 11 2.3 8.0 8.48 13.3 318.3 147.7
Career 45 863 1381 62.5 11201 89 6.4 33 2.4 8.1 8.32 13.0 248.9 147.1

Nico's Stats 1st year stats better thanks Peytons and he beat Florida, Oklahoma and NC St already. Comp % higher, yds per play higher, Better TD to INT ratio, Higher QB rating.

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CMPATTCMP%YDSAVGTDINTLNGRTG
9414365.71,2198.57366149.3
 
#125
#125
Pride85 said:
For the knuckleheads that always want the backup because the starter is terrible, check this out.
Nico Iamaleave is a redshirt FRESHMAN, starting his SEVENTH game. Here are his stats.
He is 6-1, NOT 1-6
1533 yards at a 65% completion rate
He has 9 tds and 3 ints.

Here the stats from another UT QB during their freshman year.

8-4
1141 yards at a 62% completion rate
11 tds and 6 ints.
You would cry " BENCH HIM, HE IS CLUELESS"!
Peyton might disagreeFor the knuckleheads that always want the backup because the starter is terrible, check this out.
Nico Iamaleave is a redshirt FRESHMAN, starting his SEVENTH game. Here are his stats.
He is 6-1, NOT 1-6
1533 yards at a 65% completion rate
He has 9 tds and 3 ints.

Here the stats from another UT QB during their freshman year.

8-4
1141 yards at a 62% completion rate
11 tds and 6 ints.
You would cry " BENCH HIM, HE IS CLUELESS"!
Peyton might disagree..

BTW, you are correct he is a REDSHIRT FRESHMAN. Exactly how many meaningful snaps did he have last year. Pull your head back into fresh air for a bit and think using facts for a change.
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Yep just posted similar. Nico is ahead of Manning pace already with a lot less INTs. 6-1 as a starter with wins over Oklahoma, Florida, Iowa bowl win with 5 TDs and NC st. Already with a higher QB rating and better stats than Peyton had in his first 7 games.
 
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