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[Volsfaninva917]

What Kurt is doing should be criminal, this is the fear stoking that should land people in jail. This isn't free speech, this is putting out false information to cause harm

 

[FLVOL_79]

I guess it's time to once again point out that...............
The rate of increase in deficit spending is ALWAYS less under Democratic administrations.
Trump not only continues that trend but solidifies it. That was true even before Covid-19.

FFS. Rate of increase goes down as the amounts become larger when talking about the deficit and spending.
I know you don't do math well so here we go (this is literally the 100th time Ive explained this to you by the way):

Your wife punches you in the face 10 times a day for sitting down when peeing. The next day she punches you 30 times for catching you watching My Little Pony. 200% increase! THATS HORRIBLE.

Your wife punches you 9,000,000,000 times in the face for not finishing your soy milk. The next day she hits you 13,000,000,000 times for not finishing your Tofurkey. 44% increase.

Understand? Are you able to deduce which scenario might be worse?


Democrats almost always increase the deficit by the larger number. Trump will be the exception.

 

[McDad]

Tl;dr


Capitalism let's things, people, ideas, fail. There is no "too big to fail" or "no child left behind" or "social blankets".

Under capitalism you can expect people, ideas, things to fall thru the cracks. You can expect the whole system to go thru highs and lows. Its mimicking the natural cycle of life. And over the long term that allows things to naturally evolve into a better thing. And it's all driven by things internal to the system going thru natural processes, highs and lows. In a perfect capitalistic system your place in the world is driven almost entirely by what you do. Corporation gets greedy and just pays dividends to shareholders then faces economic calamity, it falls. Down with the greedy. If someone applies themselves and creates something nice they get to profit, no matter their skin color or upbringing. Capitalism doesnt care, it's a process.

Our government (socialism) has inserted any number of corruptions into the system. Red tapes that favor corporations vs small guys, keeping the small small, and the big big. Bailouts, handouts, subsidies, again favor the big vs the small. Taxes again favor the big vs the small just like individual taxes do. Because the government, socialism, tied itself to these big guys it has become inter-dependent on each other. To the point it's hard to say who is buying who. And that means we now have corporations, and government entities " too big to fail". That's all because of socialism. Under capitalism the government wouldnt care one iota if Delta failed because they refuse to reinvest money in its company.

And thus Deltas hypothetical misdoings wouldnt be tied to the public support and those who.made bad decisions would be punished with failure. That begins to create a pattern of bad behavior being punished, and good behavior rewarded, all without trying public interests into it.

Instead, what we have because of the government performing socialistic interventions is that the bad behavior never gets punished. The natural cycle never completes, and we are stuck on the edge of collapse. Technically socialism should be able to fix the issues, but we have seen time and again it's easier for the government to literally just make up money than deal with reality and allow the bad behaviors to be punished. Why? Because they are getting kick backs, donations, cushy jobs for them and their family.

So instead of small corrections under capitalism we get apocalyptic socialist responses like shutting down the economy then trying to pretend we didnt with trillion dollar stimulus checks. That again dont actually fix the underlying problem, so once one batch of made up money is gone, the problem comes back. And the government and idiots who dont understand the situation act shocked and say well we have to do "something, for the greater good". Ignoring that it was similar measures that got us here.

I would much prefer the small pain of capitalism vs economy ending disasters of socialism.

Outstanding work. Seriously.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

Obama added between 7-9 trillion dollars to the debt.... do you honestly consider that moving in the right direction?

Depends how you calculate it.
How Much Did Obama Add to the Nation's Debt?

 

[615vols]

My bad. I thought she said that in late January.

Man that’s 2 days in a row I’ve seen you get called out for talking out of your a**. Yesterday you accused someone of spreading fake news over a cnn article, now this Pelosi Chinatown timeline. Maybe you should try informing yourself of actual facts on a situation before just blurting things out to help your liberal buddies look better, might make you look like less of a . Or just keep having to backtrack and apologize, it’s pretty ******* funny

 

[evillawyer]

 

[Smokey'sHandler]

IIRC the Senate attempt to further fund this was blocked.

Underrated post. There are people who are suffering and we have people in congress who blocked this because it may not go out the way that they would prefer it which was basically distribute the money to a third party and them distribute to folks at their discretion. It is another Kennedy Center style ploy that will ultimately hurt Americans and they are already feeling the backlash of this with unrest popping up across the country.

The ultimate solution to this is not to continue to increase government aid but to re-open portions of the economy so people can get back to work and business starts getting back to the small businesses.

 

[LouderVol]

Capitalism left far to many gaps.
It's almost as if not everything valued by society revolves around individual monetary profit.
Imagine that

It's almost like everything valued by society isnt valued by everyone who.makes up that society.

 

[NCFisher]

Such a ridiculous place to plant a flag of moral superiority. Deficits are bad.

My daughter's rate of sexual assault is Always less when she is attending GT instead of UGA. See??? Ridiculous.

Can you not ask your daughter to stop sexually assaulting people regardless of which she attends?

 

[FLVOL_79]

Printer is tired. Needs rest.
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[LouderVol]

I can't figure out why someone who should be our president would want to be our president. What our country needs is not what the population will tolerate.

I should be president. I would get kicked out so fast.

 

[McDad]

Can you not ask your daughter to stop sexually assaulting people regardless of which she attends?

She's a monster.

 

[McDad]

I should be president. I would get kicked out so fast.

You'd be assassinated before inauguration.

 

[MurphyVol]

Obama added between 7-9 trillion dollars to the debt.... do you honestly consider that moving in the right direction?

One economist called him George Bush III because he and W were so similar. It's almost comical how people are so convinced their party is right when there's so little difference between them. The two parties have done a magnificent job of stamping out creative thinking and keeping everyone in an endless argument on various social issues they they couldn't truly care less about. They will always agree that more debt is great and keep the masses distracted with debating where people can piss and who can or cannot marry each other.

 

[Volsfaninva917]

Again,
Governors to Trump: Leave us alone, we don't need you
Governors to Trump: Oh god, help us with Coronavirus we need supplies
Governors to Trump: You're not gonna tell us when to open
Governors to People: Every time Trump says something we're going to tighten up and extend the lock down just because we don't like Trump.

 

[McDad]

One economist called him George Bush III because he and W were so similar. It's almost comical how people are so convinced their party is right when there's so little difference between them. The two parties have done a magnificent job of stamping out creative thinking and keeping everyone in an endless argument on various social issues they they couldn't truly care less about. They will always agree that more debt is great and keep the masses distracted with debating where people can piss and who can or cannot marry each other.

Nice. Post more often.

 

[NCFisher]

What name do you give it?
Then name education, parks and rec., courts and prisons, and roads and bridges.
I'm always willing to learn some new vocabulary.

Your refusal to see it for what it is makes you look like an even bigger ****ing idiot.

What it isn't, is socialism, an economic system in which production is not privately owned.
The taxes that pay for the things you list are entirely generated from privately owned enterprise and labor, the market system.

As Nordic leaders have pointed out, they are not socialist but are welfare boats which capitalism floats.

 

[LouderVol]

I don't see the distinction.
Use police and fire protection services as the example.
Fix or result?

Result. People are bad with fire. Fire departments dont preemptively put out fires to be a fix.

Police dont fix crime, they just help "police" it.
Failings of individuals, not fixed by socialism.

 

[zeppelin128]

Tl;dr


Capitalism let's things, people, ideas, fail. There is no "too big to fail" or "no child left behind" or "social blankets".

Under capitalism you can expect people, ideas, things to fall thru the cracks. You can expect the whole system to go thru highs and lows. Its mimicking the natural cycle of life. And over the long term that allows things to naturally evolve into a better thing. And it's all driven by things internal to the system going thru natural processes, highs and lows. In a perfect capitalistic system your place in the world is driven almost entirely by what you do. Corporation gets greedy and just pays dividends to shareholders then faces economic calamity, it falls. Down with the greedy. If someone applies themselves and creates something nice they get to profit, no matter their skin color or upbringing. Capitalism doesnt care, it's a process.

Our government (socialism) has inserted any number of corruptions into the system. Red tapes that favor corporations vs small guys, keeping the small small, and the big big. Bailouts, handouts, subsidies, again favor the big vs the small. Taxes again favor the big vs the small just like individual taxes do. Because the government, socialism, tied itself to these big guys it has become inter-dependent on each other. To the point it's hard to say who is buying who. And that means we now have corporations, and government entities " too big to fail". That's all because of socialism. Under capitalism the government wouldnt care one iota if Delta failed because they refuse to reinvest money in its company.

And thus Deltas hypothetical misdoings wouldnt be tied to the public support and those who.made bad decisions would be punished with failure. That begins to create a pattern of bad behavior being punished, and good behavior rewarded, all without trying public interests into it.

Instead, what we have because of the government performing socialistic interventions is that the bad behavior never gets punished. The natural cycle never completes, and we are stuck on the edge of collapse. Technically socialism should be able to fix the issues, but we have seen time and again it's easier for the government to literally just make up money than deal with reality and allow the bad behaviors to be punished. Why? Because they are getting kick backs, donations, cushy jobs for them and their family.

So instead of small corrections under capitalism we get apocalyptic socialist responses like shutting down the economy then trying to pretend we didnt with trillion dollar stimulus checks. That again dont actually fix the underlying problem, so once one batch of made up money is gone, the problem comes back. And the government and idiots who dont understand the situation act shocked and say well we have to do "something, for the greater good". Ignoring that it was similar measures that got us here.

I would much prefer the small pain of capitalism vs economy ending disasters of socialism.

Louder getting hype for Justin Amash's announcement.

 

[BeecherVol]

Lol
Joe was ready for some of that "absolute authority".

 

[FLVOL_79]

Ours is pretty good. I just feel there are a couple of things that need to move a little more in the socialistic direction. Health care being the primary one. Also some further adjustments to the tax code are needed.
The biggest flaw in our economy is with wealth distribution. Just as with the debt, we are heading in the wrong direction and it is not sustainable.

Really? What is the flaw? Are you not responsible for your own wealth generation?

See, and this is VERY typical thinking for people infected with modern liberalism, you want to blame your inadequacies on someone else and punish them for it. I'm going to give you some advice and I feel a bit weird since you're old as sh!t and I am not..but focus on yourself. Worry about your own problems. Reflect on all the mistakes you have made in life and see if you can remedy them. If not, try to let your kids know about your failures so they aren't doomed to repeat them. Stop being upset, jealous, full of envious rage, whatever, of someone who made a billion dollars. Its pathetic.

 

[volbeast33]

Apparently that one didn’t.

Then there is this discrepancy... Conflicts between some local coroners and Pennsylvania's health department over COVID-19 deaths

And this one... Coronavirus: 700 residents in Ohio long-term care facilities have COVID-19, deaths not disclosed

Oh, and what did you say about adequate tracking?...Thousands have died in nursing homes around the U.S. But the federal gov't isn’t tracking them.

I don’t care what these news reports say..... I view most news as being half truths...... just like the news saying that Elon musk didn’t donate the ventilators that he said he would buy.... he came out today and provided the email confirmations, receipts, and everything else to make the journalists look like idiots once again.
I don’t like to actually discuss specifics of my job much but I work in a skilled nursing facility. We are more regulated than almost any healthcare industry that there is.... any covid death or suspected covid death is immediately reported to the state health board.... we have tested every single resident in our building and also all of the staff..... if a building has at least 2 positive test results than that building is considered an outbreak zone meaning that the facility has to do a call with the state daily going over any issues in the building related to corona.....No..... facilities will not discuss with journalist this issue bc what these journalists is doing is creating a panic making it extremely more difficult to take care of our residents.

 

[volbeast33]

Depends how you calculate it.
How Much Did Obama Add to the Nation's Debt?

It doesn’t matter the amount.... is even the lowest amount good?

 

[GAVol]

Hell of a time to take a recess.

And PPP funding doesn’t register with most Democrat voters, so Nancy Pelosi will sit in her mansion in SF and take pot shots for 3 weeks while my numbers tank and I figure out how to pay people.

 

[luthervol]

Such a ridiculous place to plant a flag of moral superiority. Deficits are bad.

My daughter's rate of sexual assault is Always less when she is attending GT instead of UGA. See??? Ridiculous.

I just think it's significant enough to occasional point out.
If UGA had a higher per pupil rate of sexual assault every year than GT, then I would think GA Tech was a little better in that regard, even though GA Tech's numbers were not zero.
See???????? Ridiculous