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titansvolsfaninga said:
Who's in charge then? It amazes me that conservatives wish to model a government rooted in anarchy. Do they think they will somehow come out victorious? These dreams of a white ethno-state are foolish.
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White ethno-state ? Do tell , what party owns the top whitest states in this country ? I’d also ask what conservatives wants to be like those states ? Smh
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Math doesn't lie just because you don't understand it. Not only was my analogy correct I have around 96% certainty it 100% applies to you. Thus I designed said anaology for you to better understand. Apparently you still don't.

I'll 4th grade level it for you Luther with a scenario all democrats can relate to:

1. Lets say you have one family member in prison and another gets sentenced for a drive-by shooting. 2 family members in prison at once.

1 to 2 = 100% increase
2 family members in prison - 1 family member in prison / 1 original family member in prison X 100 = 100%


2. Now lets say you have 9 family members in prison. 5 more go to prison this year. 14 members of your family in prison at once.

9 to 14 = 55% increase
14 family members in prison / 9 original family members in prison X 100 = 55% increase

Which is worse for your family? The 100% increase in jailed family members or the 55% increase?

Extra credit: Number of your actual family members who have been to prison.
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If you actually think that is informative and relevant, you are a moron.
 
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Stew Cook said:
Come on Luth... nobody watches Fox News. Haven't you heard the repeated denials on here?
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It is amazing. They speak of how Fox has twice the viewership of every other station combined and yet no one claims to watch it.

I think it's pretty easy to tell who is getting the Fox message, and it's most of them.
 
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Stew Cook said:
Manafort transmitted swing state polling data to GRU linked Putin cronies. Russiia-backed propaganda efforts subsequently targeted groups in these swing states.

Trump was very much aware of the coordination of Russian hacked emails being disseminated through Wikileaks to aid his campaign. Even with redactions, this is fairly clear.

I suppose all of this is above board with you, and it wouldn't be a problem to do it again?

You don't need to try to convince me, maybe convince yourself.
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The Mueller probe examined that. Here's the summary conclusion regarding the question of conspiracy/collusion:

In sum, the investigation established multiple links between Trump Campaign officials and
individuals tied to the Russian government. Those links included Russian offers of assistance to
the Campaign. In some instances , the Campaign was receptive to the offer , while in other instances
the Campaign officials shied away. Ultimately , the investigation did not establish that the
Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference
activities.

Have you shared your concern with the Mueller team?
 
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BartW said:
I find that hard to believe, considering there have been less than 8,000 lab-confirmed flu deaths in the US over the past 12 months. We’ve had more covid deaths than that in the past week…

The 24k-62k figure for this past year’s flu deaths is an estimate based on *gasp* modeling.

Fluview


So did you know you were comparing apples and oranges? Not sure whether intentional or unintentional irony.

The real-time fatality ticker is not that meaningful. It's difficult to impossible to track these things in real time, especially during disasters. That's why you get these studies and models after the fact (see, for example, the Hurricane Maria deaths...)

It will be interesting to see the studies estimating total mortality after this is all said and done. I still think it’s bad form to guess how many tens to hundreds of thousands of Americans are going to die (like many on here…) but I’ll go out on a limb and predict it will be much higher than the flu.
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I get that this is a bad virus and that a lot of folks have and are going to die because of it. If you want higher lab-confirmed flu deaths all you have to do is do more test. The CDC says 80,000 people in the US died from it in 2017.

I thought the eye roll emoji would convey enough sarcasm.

My biggest issue with this whole situation is the way we are treating it. It seems a little like finding termites in your house and deciding to burn it down to stop the spread.
 
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BartW said:
I find that hard to believe, considering there have been less than 8,000 lab-confirmed flu deaths in the US over the past 12 months. We’ve had more covid deaths than that in the past week…

The 24k-62k figure for this past year’s flu deaths is an estimate based on *gasp* modeling.

Fluview


So did you know you were comparing apples and oranges? Not sure whether intentional or unintentional irony.

The real-time fatality ticker is not that meaningful. It's difficult to impossible to track these things in real time, especially during disasters. That's why you get these studies and models after the fact (see, for example, the Hurricane Maria deaths...)

It will be interesting to see the studies estimating total mortality after this is all said and done. I still think it’s bad form to guess how many tens to hundreds of thousands of Americans are going to die (like many on here…) but I’ll go out on a limb and predict it will be much higher than the flu.
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I think you miss the point entirely; it's a satirical take, not a precision research paper - *gasp*!

We know that flu deaths are tens/thousands annually. In a bad year, it can reach 70-80K; in a good year maybe as few as 30K.
We don't shut down society annually for the flu. That's all.
 
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NCFisher said:
I think you miss the point entirely; it's a satirical take, not a precision research paper - *gasp*!

We know that flu deaths are tens/thousands annually. In a bad year, it can reach 70-80K; in a good year maybe as few as 30K.
We don't shut down society annually for the flu. That's all.
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And 250 to 600 k annually.
 
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0nelilreb said:
White ethno-state ? Do tell , what party owns the top whitest states in this country ? I’d also ask what conservatives wants to be like those states ? Smh
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A very curious thing. On one hand, the left worships white, ethno-states, some of them with nationalist "Whites-only" policy into the early/mid-20th century. They fall over themselves yapping about Nordic nations and every "Top 10 Countries to Live In" list, which are white as sheets, and yap some more about how we should be like them. Mostly it's because they think those countries are socialist due to being welfare states.

OTOH, they never talk about how great socialist nations of color are, they just like the really white ones.
 
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Stew Cook said:
15 minute tests are the "new" thing. But sure... nobody cares about tests. No way they could be helpful. What was Trump thinking, promising hundreds of millions of tests. Just more ignorance, I guess.
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You make it sound like these 15 min tests are like scratch off lottery cards. They still take expensive machines to read. Trump and pence are correct. They've provided an adequate amount of tests.
 
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Sea Ray said:
You make it sound like these 15 min tests are like scratch off lottery cards. They still take expensive machines to read. Trump and pence are correct. They've provided an adequate amount of tests.
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“Anybody that needs a test, gets a test,” Trump said on March 6. “They have the tests. And the tests are beautiful.” He said the same day: “Anybody that wants a test can get a test.”

Trump leaves trail of unmet promises in coronavirus response
 
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They have been doing various tests like these in other countries and one on pregnant women in NYC that are coming back with similar results.

I have been saying it since the beginning. This thing cannot spread as fast as they say it can and only have the amount of cases that we have been seeing.

I made a post on here shortly after they found the first cases in CA and WA that the minute you have one confirmed case you have a 1,000 and you’ll never know.
 
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