Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

[Volsfaninva917]

MLB commissioner Rob Manfred 'fully' expects baseball to return in 2020, report says

 

[GAVol]

I have a problem with that.

That’s a different issue, but I get it. The point is, nothing has changed other than, now some non-essential businesses can go start doing what 1/2-2/3 of the economy never stopped doing anyway. There’s a myth that we’ve: 1) actually been under a full quarantine and; 2) suddenly we’ll all turn into dumbasses once a barber shop opens.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

That lady in New Zealand is a boss. She's b**ch-slapped both coronavirus and the gun-huggers in no time flat.



New Zealand’s Prime Minister May Be the Most Effective Leader on the Planet

She's a tiny island in BFE. No wonder she has very few cases. Great example as always.

 

[utvolpj]

We need sports and schools. For our sanity and a distraction

 

[GordonC]

Never thought I would see the day when people hated someone so much they openly celebrated the failure of medicine

This.
All.
Day.
Long.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Did Fredo lie or not?

Sure he did.


Chris Cuomo and CNN stage a fake coronavirus resurrection

 

[Purple Tiger]

A little misleading since a lot of that corporate money will keep people employed.

We'll see. I think some companies will take the money and shut down.

 

[allvol123]

I've always had issues with authority.

Well our city mayor is a big freaking libertarian. I had no idea. I love this guy.

 

[Velo Vol]

 

[allvol123]

hog is a lover a big, burly men.

They're like big teddy bears.

 

[allvol123]

We'll see. I think some companies will take the money and shut down.

Then it is a loan.

 

[LouderVol]

If these are Chinese recording devices what's the chance China is seeing exactly what is going on here?

100%. It was part of the agreement as a way to ensure they are working properly.

 

[RockyTop85]

Hallmark ain’t got nothin on Teflon Don.

 

[Purple Tiger]

Then it is a loan.

It's a boondoggle.

 

[hog88]

We need sports and schools. For our sanity and a distraction

Me and my wife need to start traveling again. This has been the longest stretch of time we have spent together without either of us out of town since we have been married.

 

[allvol123]

It's a boondoggle.

And you want more issued by the boondogglers.

???

 

[hog88]

We'll see. I think some companies will take the money and shut down.

Of course there will be, the regulations were written to invite it.

 

[Purple Tiger]

Is that wrong?

Only in the twelve states that still have active sodomy laws....

 

[rjd970]

Do it and you'll see the flu death numbers largely unchanged.

This year, we had about 9,000 lab-confirmed flu deaths.

But we say we will have 24,000-62,000 flu deaths. From modeling. The error bars are big enough that uncertainty is larger (38k) is larger than the lower bound.

We have roughly 40,000 lab confirmed COVID deaths (vs. 9k for flu where we say the real number is closer to 30k-60k) and about 5,000 probable (based on case history, data on contacts who were covid positive, autopsy, etc.), yet it is the CV death numbers that are just way off and so wrong and can't be trusted?

I don't understand this fascination with the making light of the CV death numbers as if they are manufactured because they include either a) non-CV leading cause deaths and b) probable numbers. This is especially a shocking position to me from someone who holds flu deaths up as a standard when the accepted number of deaths fall in a range of 3-7 times higher than the lab-confirmed number.

What percentage of the US population do you think dies of heart attacks and car accidents every day? Unless the people who test positive for CV are the unluckiest group on the planet - their non-CV mortality rate is going to pale in comparison to their CV mortality rate.

I think we would see Flu confirmed deaths skyrocket if we tested for the Flu for every patient, every time, coming into a hospital or doctors office exhibiting 1 or any symptom of the Flu. We would also see those numbers skyrocket if we also gave 15% extra reimbursement for every positive Flu case. I still contend the 40K lab confirmed deaths is not a product of CV death, it is a product of increased focus of CV testing and the simple fact that we are looking for it. Test for the Flu they way we are testing for CV right now where everybody and their mother gets tested for a runny nose and the Flu is all of a sudden a pandemic. Seriously, how many sick people in hospitals right now would test positive for some trace amount of a Flu strain? Additionaly, how many would we feel confident saying have the Flu just based on case history?

Yes - CV death numbers can't be trusted. Heart attacks and car accidents are a small part, I agree. But they are there, and at this point we are looking for CV deaths in a way we aren't for the Flu or anything else. Simply looking for the cold virus or the Flu virus will make the numbers increase. So, what is the real story with CV?

 

[hog88]

Then it is a loan.

That can't be recovered. No personal guarantee or collateral was required.

 

[hog88]

Only in the twelve states that still have active sodomy laws....

As Huff says "muh laws".

 

[Purple Tiger]

And you want more issued by the boondogglers.

???

Not to businesses or corporations.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

There is literally a tweet for everything. It's as if he has no position but to be opposed to common sense.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Only in the twelve states that still have active sodomy laws....

You and hogg fixing to break da law?

 

[LouderVol]

Do it and you'll see the flu death numbers largely unchanged.

This year, we had about 9,000 lab-confirmed flu deaths.

But we say we will have 24,000-62,000 flu deaths. From modeling. The error bars are big enough that uncertainty is larger (38k) is larger than the lower bound.

We have roughly 40,000 lab confirmed COVID deaths (vs. 9k for flu where we say the real number is closer to 30k-60k) and about 5,000 probable (based on case history, data on contacts who were covid positive, autopsy, etc.), yet it is the CV death numbers that are just way off and so wrong and can't be trusted?

I don't understand this fascination with the making light of the CV death numbers as if they are manufactured because they include either a) non-CV leading cause deaths and b) probable numbers. This is especially a shocking position to me from someone who holds flu deaths up as a standard when the accepted number of deaths fall in a range of 3-7 times higher than the lab-confirmed number.

What percentage of the US population do you think dies of heart attacks and car accidents every day? Unless the people who test positive for CV are the unluckiest group on the planet - their non-CV mortality rate is going to pale in comparison to their CV mortality rate.

Heart disease kills around 800k a year, car crashes 40k. Couldnt find specifics on heart attacks per day. But if you assume 100k die from heart attacks of the 800k, that's 273 a day, plus another 90 from car crashes.